Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (USE SPOILER TAGS!)

[Darkstream]

With as much respect and love I have for Han Solo, I actually like Malcolm Reynolds more.

[chip75]

Originally Posted by Darkstream

With much as much respect and love I have for Han Solo, I actually like Malcolm Reynolds more.

I think it's due to Mal been fleshed-out more with a longer screen-time and character development. Han Solo is just awesome on a superficial level even if he's far more well known. Of course the new trilogy can expand on his potential a whole lot more!

[Darkstream]

Originally Posted by chip75

I think it's due to Mal been fleshed-out more with a longer screen-time and character development. Han Solo is just awesome on a superficial level even if he's far more well known. Of course the new trilogy can expand on his potential a whole lot more!

Agreed.

[Moviefan2k4]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Guys...Lucas himself wrote the general outlines for the prequels. Michael Arndt fleshed them out. Lucas is working day by day with Abrams and Kasdan and everyone else as a consultant. I don't know if that makes you feel better or worse, but that's the lay of the land.

I think you mean the sequels; Lucas wrote "Phantom Menace" and "Revenge of the Sith" himself, collaborating with Jonathan Hales on "Attack of the Clones".

[stvn1974]

I wonder if Jonathon Hales or Lucas is responsible for the atrocious dialogue in Clones?

[octagon]

Originally Posted by Darkstream

With as much respect and love I have for Han Solo, I actually like Malcolm Reynolds more.

I loved Mal but Han still wins pretty handily (though turning him into a Gilmore Girl in Jedi certainly didn't help).

[stvn1974]

While Mal and Han were arguing over who the bigger bad ass is James T. Kirk took Inara and Princess Leia back to his quarters and made passionate love to them both.

[Darkstream]

Originally Posted by stvn1974

While Mal and Han were arguing over who the bigger bad ass is James T. Kirk took Inara and Princess Leia back to his quarters and made passionate love them both.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

I think you mean the sequels; Lucas wrote "Phantom Menace" and "Revenge of the Sith" himself, collaborating with Jonathan Hales on "Attack of the Clones".

You're right. Sorry...I shouldn't post after midnight. And for me, 4:47 in the afternoon is midnight.

[motorheadache95]

Originally Posted by stvn1974

I wonder if Jonathon Hales or Lucas is responsible for the atrocious dialogue in Clones?

And if Hales isnt responsible for the dialog, then just what the hell did he contribute exactly? If I was "script-doctoring" that thing, the dialog would have been the first thing to come up on my list of revisions.

Maybe it was far, far worse originally

[Steelmaker]

Originally Posted by motorheadache95

And if Hales isnt responsible for the dialog, then just what the hell did he contribute exactly? If I was "script-doctoring" that thing, the dialog would have been the first thing to come up on my list of revisions.

Maybe it was far, far worse originally

I think it illustrates that part of the problem with the prequels is that Lucas had too many ass-kissing "yes men" around him. There was no one their to call Lucas out on all the bullshit. Everyone was either drunk off of just getting to work on the projects and kissed Lucas' ass or they were too scared to dare question anything Lucas did.

[aiman04]

Jonathan Hales contribution is large enough to get a screenplay credit.

But then again for Empire Leigh Brackett was credited for the screenplay with Lawrence Kasdan when it should be him and Lucas. Lucas wanted to honor her, no problems with that but my point is you'll never know.

[Moviefan2k4]

Originally Posted by Steelmaker

I think it illustrates that part of the problem with the prequels is that Lucas had too many ass-kissing "yes men" around him. There was no one their to call Lucas out on all the bullshit. Everyone was either drunk off of just getting to work on the projects and kissed Lucas' ass or they were too scared to dare question anything Lucas did.

The only person I got that vibe from was Rick McCallum; everyone else seemed perfectly willing to question Lucas. Whether he accepted their views or not is another matter.

[Elvis]

Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

The only person I got that vibe from was Rick McCallum; everyone else seemed perfectly willing to question Lucas. Whether he accepted their views or not is another matter.

Vibe? He was a straight up ass kiss no question about it! He needed someone like Kurtz to reign him in every so oftern.

[Moviefan2k4]

Originally Posted by Elvis

Vibe? He was a straight up ass kiss no question about it! He needed someone like Kurtz to reign him in every so often.

I haven't seen a lot of interviews with Gary Kurtz, but it seems he was McCallum's opposite regarding Lucas. McCallum said "yes" most of the time, while it appears Kurtz said "no" to the same extreme. I read that he and Lucas had a major fallout several years ago, which makes me wonder why Kennedy and Abrams brought him back for "Episode VII".

[aiman04]

Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

I haven't seen a lot of interviews with Gary Kurtz, but it seems he was McCallum's opposite regarding Lucas. McCallum said "yes" most of the time, while it appears Kurtz said "no" to the same extreme. I read that he and Lucas had a major fallout several years ago, which makes me wonder why Kennedy and Abrams brought him back for "Episode VII".

Brought whom back?

[Kryptonic]

Gary Kurtz isn't working on Episode VII. He's not listed on IMDB as working on it anyway.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0476030/

[Elvis]

Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

I haven't seen a lot of interviews with Gary Kurtz, but it seems he was McCallum's opposite regarding Lucas. McCallum said "yes" most of the time, while it appears Kurtz said "no" to the same extreme. I read that he and Lucas had a major fallout several years ago, which makes me wonder why Kennedy and Abrams brought him back for "Episode VII".

Opposites usually work best when collaborating. They don't last long together (hence Lennon and McCartney) mind you but if it were not for those two opposing each other we would not have the greatness of American Graffiti, Star Wars and TESB.

[Moviefan2k4]

Originally Posted by Kryptonic

Gary Kurtz isn't working on Episode VII. He's not listed on IMDB as working on it anyway.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0476030/

My bad; I got the wrong impression from Elvis mentioning Kurtz.

[Steelmaker]

Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

I haven't seen a lot of interviews with Gary Kurtz, but it seems he was McCallum's opposite regarding Lucas. McCallum said "yes" most of the time, while it appears Kurtz said "no" to the same extreme. I read that he and Lucas had a major fallout several years ago, which makes me wonder why Kennedy and Abrams brought him back for "Episode VII".

Kurtz or Lucas?