Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (USE SPOILER TAGS!)

[Elvis]

Originally Posted by Kryptonic

Go to 6:11 in this video.

Star Wars:Return of the Jedi VI - Battle of Endor (Space Only) 1080p - YouTube

Also, shameful that you didn't know this!

Originally Posted by Kryptonic

There's a difference between knowing it, but forgetting about it and claiming that it's not there when it is. Notice how my reply is only three minutes after your post. I knew exactly where it was in the space battle and got the proper time code for you to see it.

Hahahaha, yeah ok nice cover. Umm..."yeah I forgot about it". In fact I do remember the Falcon hitting the bulkhead. Guess I was not paying much attention to seeing if the radar dish came off.

[camper]

Originally Posted by Elvis

Why should it? I have a restored car sitting in my garage...that's 40 years old. Should I put a spoiler on it?

Is it 100% original, with no new, modified, or replacement parts?

And you put no individual touches on it whatsoever?

I would imagine that you have something in your vehicle which is far more efficient than the original 1970 part, which makes some aspect of the vehicle perform better in some way. Likely the radio, antenna or some other feature.

The square dish in the star wars universe is the same type of thing...the square dish is a more efficient and effective--non-original--modification, so now Han can listen to "This Minute Now" and "Light the Sky on Fire" without so much static.

[aiman04]

[Show spoiler]On set:



http://fortune.com/2014/12/29/disney...mpire-of-tech/

Already posted.

[stvn1974]

Originally Posted by Elvis

Hahahaha, yeah ok nice cover. Umm..."yeah I forgot about it". In fact I do remember the Falcon hitting the bulkhead. Guess I was not paying much attention to seeing if the radar dish came off.

Perhaps with the magically appearing, disappearing and then reappearing rocks and windows in Star Wars and Empire you just assumed the dish came off and then magically reappeared when they flew out of the Death Star in Jedi?

[aiman04]

Round vs Square. Nice one guys. Somehow reminds me of Apollo 13.

[toddly6666]

I had a dream that I saw the new movie and it was actually pretty ridiculous. Old Han Solo showed up in a quick blink and miss running scene. The main sith was Eva Green when I was waiting for Michael Fassbender to show up. All the weird aliens were played by mentally challenged people. the majority of the film took place in American suburbs. Most of the jedis were doing training exercises in a soccer field - silly exercises that people would do in a self-help group. The best scene in the movie was right at the beginning where the film opened with weaponized Ewoks on Landspeeders on Tattoine. But I remember thinking in my dream that the prequels turned out to eventually be better than the new one.

[stvn1974]

Originally Posted by toddly6666

I had a dream that I saw the new movie and it was actually pretty ridiculous. Old Han Solo showed up in a quick blink and miss running scene. The main sith was Eva Green when I was waiting for Michael Fassbender to show up. All the weird aliens were played by mentally challenged people. the majority of the film took place in American suburbs. Most of the jedis were doing training exercises in a soccer field - silly exercises that people would do in a self-help group. The best scene in the movie was right at the beginning where the film opened with weaponized Ewoks on Landspeeders on Tattoine. But I remember thinking in my dream that the prequels turned out to eventually be better than the new one.

[Al_The_Strange]

Originally Posted by toddly6666

I had a dream that I saw the new movie and it was actually pretty ridiculous. Old Han Solo showed up in a quick blink and miss running scene. The main sith was Eva Green when I was waiting for Michael Fassbender to show up. All the weird aliens were played by mentally challenged people. the majority of the film took place in American suburbs. Most of the jedis were doing training exercises in a soccer field - silly exercises that people would do in a self-help group. The best scene in the movie was right at the beginning where the film opened with weaponized Ewoks on Landspeeders on Tattoine. But I remember thinking in my dream that the prequels turned out to eventually be better than the new one.

Some of those details make it sound like it would be a great David Lynch film.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Eye for likenesses?

Heh. What do you expect people to work from? Memory? I know you're not fond of Struzan's work Pete, but it still takes a huge amount of skill to be able to do what he does and to do it so well; that much is proved by the dubious fan poster a couple of pages back.

[aiman04]

Originally Posted by toddly6666

I had a dream that I saw the new movie and it was actually pretty ridiculous. Old Han Solo showed up in a quick blink and miss running scene. The main sith was Eva Green when I was waiting for Michael Fassbender to show up. All the weird aliens were played by mentally challenged people. the majority of the film took place in American suburbs. Most of the jedis were doing training exercises in a soccer field - silly exercises that people would do in a self-help group. The best scene in the movie was right at the beginning where the film opened with weaponized Ewoks on Landspeeders on Tattoine. But I remember thinking in my dream that the prequels turned out to eventually be better than the new one.

It's the dark side manipulating you. It will trick you into believing that you can save the prequels. After you turned, you will feel stupid knowing Obi-Wan actually already know how to cheat death, more or less.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Heh. What do you expect people to work from? Memory? I know you're not fond of Struzan's work Pete, but it still takes a huge amount of skill to be able to do what he does and to do it so well; that much is proved by the dubious fan poster a couple of pages back.

I'm just teasing. I agree, it does take quite a bit of talent to create some of the great pieces of art Drew has created over the years.

[brps3]

Originally Posted by JamesKurtovich

Didn't he live long enough to annoy us one last time in the RotJ SE ("We-sa free")?

I don't mind a new villain that collects Sith artifacts. It only reinforces my belief that he doesn't really get proper training and is merely seeking out the Dark Side through old junk associated with it. I would be interested in how he gets the helmet though.

My biggest concern is that the film is too self-aware and contains way too many references to OT to be taken seriously, kind of like the new Star Trek movies.

Um I dont remember the We-sa-free part in ROTJ SE

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by brps3

Um I dont remember the We-sa-free part in ROTJ SE

It's there. They wipe to Naboo during the end celebration and one of the Gungans (sounding a whole hell of a lot like Jar Jar) yells, "Weesa free!"

[Indiana Jones]

Originally Posted by brps3

Um I dont remember the We-sa-free part in ROTJ SE

A shot of Naboo was added for the DVD release.

[Starpower67]

Originally Posted by brps3

Um I dont remember the We-sa-free part in ROTJ SE

Well it's there.. Right after the emotional scene where Luke burns his fathers suit I might add.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Heh. What do you expect people to work from? Memory? I know you're not fond of Struzan's work Pete, but it still takes a huge amount of skill to be able to do what he does and to do it so well; that much is proved by the dubious fan poster a couple of pages back.

I like his work and also think he's extremely skilled but at the same time I find him to be terribly overrated. They aren't wholly originals. If they were then I would believe in the acclaim he gets on the internet. But to me he's basically a human version of Photoshop.


I just remember when movie posters (and videogames, remember those late 70s - early 80s Atari game cartridges?) were completely original works that sometimes bore little resemblance to the actual movie.


And I prefer what Struzan does to what studios are doing to movie posters these days with actual Photoshop. There's no artistry anymore. Some of the Blu-rays out there have absolute s--t artwork, ruining what was the original movie poster. Warner was pretty much the only studio to release discs with the original poster art on the covers but even they have been hit and miss (more miss lately).

[Elvis]

I would take Jung and Kastel artwork any day over Struzan. His artwork for the OT was just awful IMHO and would never use it for a BD case.

[djakrse]

Originally Posted by Elvis

I would take Jung and Kastel artwork any day over Struzan. His artwork for the OT was just awful IMHO and would never use it for a BD case.

Not sure if you are trolling, but I'm sure both Jung and Kastel would say Struzan is one of their idols. He's the greatest poster artist of all time, and his work has influenced every poster artist since. It's a shame, most posters are strictly digital now.

[djakrse]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

I like his work and also think he's extremely skilled but at the same time I find him to be terribly overrated. They aren't wholly originals. If they were then I would believe in the acclaim he gets on the internet. But to me he's basically a human version of Photoshop.


I just remember when movie posters (and videogames, remember those late 70s - early 80s Atari game cartridges?) were completely original works that sometimes bore little resemblance to the actual movie.

Any great artist works from photos or live models. Photos give time for details and, yes, combining different poses and even models is common, like human Photoshop artists.

Unfortunately, traditional art takes more time than digital and costs more. Artistic license has to be accepted when commissioning an artist to do poster work, as their style cannot be excluded and certainly can't be redone. Everything that makes what Struzan did wonderful, made it costly and inflexible. Digital art is the only way for most movies these days, because it reduces the time and style restraints, as well as makes it easily edited or redone. I'm guessing the time factor was mostly to blame for the lack of resemblance. The work had to be started early enough, they probably only had rough concept art to work from.

[Elvis]

Originally Posted by djakrse

Not sure if you are trolling, but I'm sure both Jung and Kastel would say Struzan is one of their idols. He's the greatest poster artist of all time, and his work has influenced every poster artist since. It's a shame, most posters are strictly digital now.

How is that trolling? The Posters for the OT back in 77,80 and 83 were far better than Struzan's work imho. Throw in Sano and Reamer as well! And the topic is just Star Wars....not "other" film posters Struzan has worked on. And you think Struzan is greater than Amsel? Not in my book!