Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (USE SPOILER TAGS!)

[tigertron]

Originally Posted by beadelf

agreed! all this gore verbinski talk scares me.... people must have watched a different POTC to me!

I guess we did.

[Josh]

Pirates 2&3 weren't bad movies, they just didn't live up the the original - which is a classic, IMHO. Gore Verbinski is a very capable and talented director who could do great things with the series. Steven won't take on someone else's baby (though, he would executive produce it). JJ can't now that he's tied to Star Trek (imagine the bastard offspring). Brad Bird doesn't have the street cred to get such a high profile film.

Basically, you can't give the film to a Star Wars fanboy because you will end up with a oversaturated turd that tells no story. You need someone who can handle a large production and keep it going. Gore is a likely candadite, IMHO.

[beadelf]

http://www.cracked.com/article/167_5...than-prequels/

[The Edge]

Originally Posted by beadelf

http://www.cracked.com/article/167_5...than-prequels/

Obviously the person who wrote that particular piece did not get the memo about George's non-EU treatments.

[rickah88]

If Disney doesn't go with Filoni, I think they'll get some new blood to helm it. I'd bet George already have submitted a short list of promising, up-n-coming directors.
Most of the bigtime directors everyone keeps mentioning, are just that: Big, popular, have made a name for themselves with other franchises.
Star Wars is already a brand name, and I don't think any of those big names will want to step into something that's so established. The odds of them failing in the fans opinion, are much higher than succeeding, IMO.
I guess we'll be getting the formal announcement in several months, once the script is complete. Which is what I'm more concerned about: THE SCRIPT!
In my opinion good writing can carry the load of poor directing/acting any day of the week!

[toddly6666]

I cant imagine Disney hiring Spielberg. I thought that Disney live-action films dont want to have the director's name stand out more than the "Disney" title, especially since the directors that have directed the last batch of live-action Disney films haven't been household names.

[steve1971]

Wow! Lucas selling off Star War's? Never saw this coming. With Disney I think its in good hands and now we will see a string of sequals. Question is is in what direction will Disney take the franchise. This going to be interesting.

[Agent Bond]

Lucas, the man who created Star Wars in 1977, just became too powerful. He came to a point where no one was willing to say "George, that's going too far", or "That's not a good idea, George."

I've continued to have respect for the man throughout the years, regardless of some mistakes made in the prequels or the Special Editions - because deep down he is still that same guy. But there comes a point when you get to close to your own work, and it suffers as a result. That time came for Lucas many years ago, and nobody was there to rein him in.

I don't want him to not be involved in some creative capacity, which is why I'm glad he's staying on as a consultant. But it is time to hand the reins to other people - and Kathleen Kennedy is an excellent person to do that. Bring in some fresh blood to direct and write the screenplays, with George still having input in the story direction. This is just the right thing to happen. The more I've thought about this over the past day, the more excited I am.

I agree. He was a victim of his own success. As much as I despite Lucas, the man is brilliant when it comes to business.

[s2mikey]

Originally Posted by Agent Bond

I agree. He was a victim of his own success. As much as I despite Lucas, the man is brilliant when it comes to business.

I think its also very fair to recognize him for his creativity. I mean Star Wars is pretty good stuff. While its based on some Flash Gordon concepts from the 50's and some other old sci-fi, its freegin great.

And, George isnt the only one that looks at the business end of things. They all do.

[The Edge]

Originally Posted by Josh

Pirates 2&3 weren't bad movies, they just didn't live up the the original - which is a classic, IMHO.

I would say the same for the SW prequels. They weren't BAD, they just didn't live up to the OT -- which are classics. That said, Revenge of the Sith was very bad-ass.

And there are certainly those of the younger generation who appreciate all 6 of the films, not just a select few.

[segagamer12]

If they went with an established director I think it not should be but MUST be the guy who did the Pirates, those are just like Star Wars movies set in the past on earth. And they had a good combination of characters, awesome scenery, and some of the best action sequences ever. I loved all three, they were great. I don't get why people liked the first one hated the other two. The fourth one was terrible, and that was the one with a different director. Plus it wouldn't be the same a the Pirates, they won't be shot back to back so they will not at all be rushed, since that is the prevailing criticism of the pirate movies that can be laid to rest.

[Sven1976]

Verbinski will be reevaluated this coming summer when Lone Ranger opens. If that loses Disney hundreds of millions he will never ever get the chance to do a SW, methinks.

[Bucky]

Originally Posted by Sven1976

Verbinski will be reevaluated this coming summer when Lone Ranger opens. If that loses Disney hundreds of millions he will never ever get the chance to do a SW, methinks.

With Episode VII planned for 2015, they will probably have a director selected before next summer. And I think he has done enough for them to decide if he is the right man for the job or not.

[tylerdurden10]

Too many pages to look through here so forgive me if it's been mentioned already. Has there been any announcement regarding Disney continuing the Indiana Jones series as well? There was a blurb about it on IGN but nothing official.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by toddly6666

I cant imagine Disney hiring Spielberg. I thought that Disney live-action films dont want to have the director's name stand out more than the "Disney" title, especially since the directors that have directed the last batch of live-action Disney films haven't been household names.

I think it is more accurate to say that Disney doesn't need to hire name directors, because the properties tend to sell themselves (or not). But every once in a while, you'll see them work with people like David Lynch (Straight Story) and they've been trying to develop an update of 20,000 Leagues with David Fincher, and they kicked around a "Night At the Museum" clone called Magic Kingdom with Jon Favreau, etc.

[thunderforce]

I wonder how far we are away from scanning the younger actors in a computer and making movies even though the actors are old now that would be awesome if we could make movies with a young Luke , Lea and Han . Same for Indiana Jones .

[legendarymatt92]

Originally Posted by Ryan0503

Agreed ... the 4th POTC was horrible ... (the 3D effect was pretty amazing though) ... definitely not the direction I wanna see Star Wars go

That wasn't Gore Verbinski. He did one, two and three. Rob Marshall did the fourth, and the continuing series.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by tylerdurden10

Too many pages to look through here so forgive me if it's been mentioned already. Has there been any announcement regarding Disney continuing the Indiana Jones series as well? There was a blurb about it on IGN but nothing official.

I heard Disney has no plans to make any new Indy movies. There may be a reboot someday, but I'd expect Disney to exploit the property via video games, toys, and other merchandise. But no new features with Harrison and Steven.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by legendarymatt92

That wasn't Gore Verbinski. He did one, two and three. Rob Marshall did the fourth, and the continuing series.

I thought Pirates 4 was considerably better than Pirates 2 and 3. I could talk in depth about it (Jack Sparrow felt like the "good scoundrel" he was in the first film, as opposed to the completely amoral, self-centered jack-ass he is in 2 and 3), but this isn't the thread for that. Only real problem with the film is Blackbeard, as he isn't as memorable as Davy Jones or Barbossa.

[legendarymatt92]

Originally Posted by Nicky and Sue

I'm suprised no one has mentioned this..

The second the episode 1-6 3D conversion was announced was a stealthy tip off new movies were coming!

Think about it.. George knew that any future SW movies would be made for 2D and 3D, either by native or conversion at theatrical.

So he made sure 1-6 would also be in 3D optional for years to come. Remaining consistent with new features.

3D haters in this thread will play down the importance of films being in 3D, but since big spectacles are being made for 3D in hollywood now, and not some little phase like people biasly lament (its here to stay); really this was an imminent sign new star wars movies were going to exist.

2 years ago we should have known this. But because 3D is seen as a phase and/or cash cow by most people, there weren't enough people seeing the writing on the wall, to figure it out beforehand.

But that's the thing: people who love 3D also biasly lament that it's here to stay. The truth be told, no one knows where the industry will go next and what it's chosen format will be - I know for a fact that 3D ticket sales have been in decline recently and, if studios think that they're not making enough profit with it, you can bet your bottom dollar they won't continue doing it, because it's more expensive to shoot like that (or do the conversion afterwards). 3D is a cash-cow idea, whichever way you look at it - Hollywood didn't one day decide that it would be nice for the fans to have things in 3D because they'd appreciate it more. They looked and knew that people would pay more to see it in "another dimension". It is, therefore, a cash-cow. Whether that cow continues to pay remains to be seen.

Originally Posted by Monolithium

Gore Verbinski didn't direct the fourth POTC. Rob Marshall did.

Sorry, didn't realised you'd pointed it out already

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

I heard Disney has no plans to make any new Indy movies. There may be a reboot someday, but I'd expect Disney to exploit the property via video games, toys, and other merchandise. But no new features with Harrison and Steven.

I heard this also - as far as any coverage has gone, Disney recognise that Indiana Jones has gone as far as it can and has no plans to expand the series. As Ernest said, a reboot isn't out of the question -- and it probably will happen in a decade or so -- but, for now, there are no new Indys on the horizon.