Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (USE SPOILER TAGS!)

[toddly6666]

Originally Posted by MechaGodzilla

True, but Zam Wesell is so minor that she borders on being insignificant when talking female representation among the baddies, and either way you slice it it's pretty crazy that across six films with a very generous amount of villains we got one female villain with a couple minutes of screen time at the beginning of one movie. Captain Phasma is the first time ever we're getting a woman in a part comparable to guys like Tarkin, Boba, Maul, Jango, Dooku, etc. and I think that counts for a lot.

I think Zam Wessel may have had similar screen time to Boba Fett.

[Ernest Rister]

Padme, like Anakin, suffering fear of loss, allows this fear and the influence of Palpatine into her brainpan, and under this duress, she deposes Valorum. In a way, she is the first SW female villain.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by aiman04

George Lucas Asks J.J. Abrams About Darth Vader's Grandchildren - YouTube

Love the inference from Lucas: "Why did you change my story treatment?!?"

[MechaGodzilla]

Originally Posted by Rblu-Dblu

She's no Asajj Ventress.

I like Asajj Ventress, she doesn't appear in the live action movies though and obviously that's what we're talking about here.

Originally Posted by toddly6666

I think Zam Wessel may have had similar screen time to Boba Fett.

You know, maybe. But even so, Boba appears later on and plays a more important part in Empire than Zam did in Clones, and his minutes are distributed differently across a wider stretch of the film which makes a difference. His role in the saga also kept expanding and he now appears in four of the six movies so far, with his own spin-off and a possible appearance in Rogue One on the way according to rumors.

[Fred Bang]

Originally Posted by toddly6666

She thinks she's Star Wars first villain? How about Zam Wessel?

Was she really a girl anyway? The shape-shifting was so tacked on that it felt like Lucas felt forced to make her a creature to not kill on girl on screen.

[Al_The_Strange]

Originally Posted by Fred Bang

Was she really a girl anyway? The shape-shifting was so tacked on that it felt like Lucas felt forced to make her a creature to not kill on girl on screen.

Which is funny, considering that the whole movie starts with Sadme dying in an explosion.

[Lipcsey]

I love how this video is mostly people giving JJ crap for ruining Lost, and then JJ deflecting blame onto others, lol.

Originally Posted by aiman04

George Lucas Asks J.J. Abrams About Darth Vader's Grandchildren - YouTube

[Jett Rink]

Binks And I.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Love the inference from Lucas: "Why did you change my story treatment?!?"

Love the smackdown to the Evil Luke rumors..."Yeah, they already made those movies. They exist."

[Himmel]

Harrison Ford says you will not be disappointed with TFA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=6kDhd1JVimc

[Dynamo of Eternia]

Originally Posted by Samus Aran

Rey Porkins?

Nah... if that was the case, they probably would have hired Melissa McCarthy to play her.

[rickah88]

How drunk was Ford in that?

[Geoff D]

Wait, Terminated's back? I guess the posts from The Deacon will suddenly dry up...

[Himmel]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Wait, Terminated's back? I guess the posts from The Deacon will suddenly dry up...

I only have one account on here, and I will dial down my fluff posts.

[Lipcsey]

Originally Posted by Terminated

Harrison Ford says you will not be disappointed with TFA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=6kDhd1JVimc

He also said that he's glad they didn't kill off his character like he originally wanted. So hopefully he lives through EP7.

[matirocker]

Originally Posted by MechaGodzilla

True, but Zam Wesell is so minor that she borders on being insignificant when talking female representation among the baddies, and either way you slice it it's pretty crazy that across six films with a very generous amount of villains we got one female villain with a couple minutes of screen time at the beginning of one movie. Captain Phasma is the first time ever we're getting a woman in a part comparable to guys like Tarkin, Boba, Maul, Jango, Dooku, etc. and I think that counts for a lot.

Why is it that there HAS to be a female villain? I'm all for gender equality, but sometimes it feels so annoying, like if men would start to complain about Charlie's Angels being an all girl trio and no men are no it. It's just ridiculous. Star Wars has strong lead female characters in all 6 films and it should not be a target of sexism.

PS: No one really knows how big Phasma character actually is. I'm guessing she's like a glorified Boba Fett.

[Taipan]

I'm thinking Mr. Ford had a few spirits to lighten his mood for that clip.

[Geoff D]

Loved it when he burped, he didn't care a jot where he was.

[SethRex]

VII - The Tickets Awaken!

4:00PM Dec 20th

[MechaGodzilla]

Originally Posted by matirocker

Why is it that there HAS to be a female villain? I'm all for gender equality, but sometimes it feels so annoying, like if men would start to complain about Charlie's Angels being an all girl trio and no men are no it. It's just ridiculous. Star Wars has strong lead female characters in all 6 films and it should not be a target of sexism.

PS: No one really knows how big Phasma character actually is. I'm guessing she's like a glorified Boba Fett.

Sure there are things like Charlie's Angels, and that's all well and good, but that's the exception that proves the rule. There's nothing wrong with a male-dominated cast or a female-dominated cast in and of itself, it's the fact that writing and casting characters as male is the standard in cinema I take issue with. I'm sure you've noticed that in major films like this, 9 times out of 10 you have one woman for like, every nine men.

Star Wars is no exception, both previous trilogies featuring one major female character each with pretty much everyone else of importance being male. So when these new films seem to be making an effort to be more inclusive, that makes me happy. It's not about disliking men (I really don't) or wanting to see them entirely replaced with women (again, I don't), I just want to see more more female representation in films is all, and I think it's great that one of my favorite franchises is leading the way and being progressive.

I should add that, while they're few and far between, I don't think there's much to complain about when it comes to the depiction of women in Star Wars. Leia is a wonderful character, one of my favorites.