HDR Discussion Thread - Page 806 - Blu-ray Forum

Penton-Man · 02-25-2022, 05:16 PM

Be it for professional working folks or laypersons who spend many hours glued to a screen, recognizing the importance of -

Regarding the topics discussed above ^ , further elaboration and my personal recommendations for several of them –

Re: artificial tears - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...s#post16509022

Re: ergonomic chairs, I like one of Concept Seating chairs - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...r#post18415136 , specifically the 3150HR, but there are quite a few to choose from in different price ranges - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCMUJr8cp8Y#t=1s

Re: optometrist vs. ophthalmologist, as Robbie indicates, unless you’re simply getting refracted for glasses or contact lenses, best to get examined regularly by an ophthalmologist because they have more expertise in eye abnormalities involving structures posteriorly - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...a#post19780141 or anteriorly - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...m#post17221320
and everything in between.

Re: Kevin Shaw’s mountain bike

and recommendations for mountain bikes to ride for exercise whether in California or on Waxlow Rd. in London, well, that’s a discussion for another day.

*next month’s Space Cadets topic is scheduled to be on – all things HDR

Penton-Man · 02-25-2022, 05:34 PM

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...l#post19880887
Yes Daniel (DanBa), good work there ^ and in carrying on with the longtime tradition of DCI quality testing, Friday Flashback from a post in 2014 -

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....the determination of how many bits per color per pixel in for theatrical D-Cinema all started out with an experiment in the old Digital Cinema Lab in Hollywood showing observers a total of 36 still horizontal and vertical square wave test patterns of differing luminance and modulation levels. The results of which eventually did carry over to the DCI requirements after proof of concept with StEM motion pictures for confirmation.

Taking a step forward, a thought in terms of image quality – will one see judder with some HDR content on a BIG, bright screen of 300 nits of peak luminance due to the different temporal manifestations of HDR - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...l#post15078707
as compared to that of SDR and will studios remedy it accordingly.

Penton-Man · 02-25-2022, 11:33 PM

^ Prevention and Solution - https://partnerhelp.netflixstudios.c...:text=solution

LordoftheRings · 02-26-2022, 04:44 PM

Today's Saturday (weekend), and this's on Netflix ... HDR

Penton-Man · 02-26-2022, 07:19 PM

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in continuing the tradition of SteM, interested hearing more about StEM2 - https://theasc.com/asc/stem2

the StEM2 material production list was aimed at stressing:

High dynamic range
- Various mastered versions at 48, 108, 300 and 1,000 nit brightness values.
- Bright values of practical and CG elements.

Wide color gamut
- Practical and CG elements of extreme color saturation.

HDR judder testing elements created in fast action and specifically-integrated components to push contrast-driven judder.

High-resolution origination material generated primarily in 8K and 6K, but also incorporating 12K and 4K original material.

High-resolution CG material created to test exhibition resolving power up to 8K.

Compression algorithm testing components such as fade in from full white screen, smoke, dust and high action.

Skin tone reproduction of various ethnicities in various lighting conditions.

The test material will be available for free from the ASC in about twenty-five theatrical and consumer TV formats including combinations of 2K, 4K and 8K resolution; SDR and HDR (HDR10 and Dolby Vision); and Dolby Atmos, 7.1, 5.1 and stereo sound.

Penton-Man · 02-27-2022, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Today's Saturday (weekend), and this's on Netflix ... HDR
Vikings: Valhalla | Official Trailer | Netflix - YouTube

Thanks for the heads-up . I’ll add it to my episodic watch list after I’ve finished season 2 of The Witcher which I know was graded using Dolby Vision 4.0 as opposed to season 1 which was not.

Penton-Man · 02-27-2022, 07:01 PM

On an archivists’ (https://www.facebook.com/amiarchivists/) note -

Andrea introduces a discussion geared toward grappling with what to select as a keeper - https://academydigitalpreservationfo...xample-post-5/

LordoftheRings · 02-27-2022, 10:05 PM

Best OLED TV for HDR movies / Go big (83") or go home
▪︎https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/a90j-oled

For 77" Class ... the best HDR OLED (save $5,000 Cdn)
• https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/c1-oled

LordoftheRings · 02-27-2022, 10:39 PM

The King of all HDR OLED kings and queens ...

Penton-Man · 02-27-2022, 11:27 PM

LordoftheRings

is here and eyes here after dancing on the pedals up Northridge in case the semi-retired paidgeek et al. are lurking. But where’s the Wabo? - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...c#post18182007

Wabs, the next step in Dance at > 2,000 - https://www.bet.de/news/lets-dance-in-neuem-licht

Penton-Man · 02-28-2022, 06:38 PM

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Today at the HPA tech retreat, presenters spoke about Field of Dreams and other live projects;

For those who didn’t catch it ^ , there’s this read - https://www.aja.com/news/story/2038-...ort-production

I’d like to see more of blending the cinematic and broadcast look for special live sporting events in the future.

Postscript: https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...adline-arrives

Penton-Man · 02-28-2022, 07:58 PM

Moving on from baseball ^ to football and strongly rooting for underdogs fighting against all odds to succeed, wherever they may be

, this week we’ll be watching - https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Ameri...lu-ray/309062/ .

LordoftheRings · 02-28-2022, 10:56 PM

Don't ever give up your dreams and your passion, no matter what.
Be proud of who you are and what you fighting for.
Stand your ground high and dynamically in range ... HDR

Penton-Man · 03-01-2022, 01:13 AM

Indeed ^. Hey Bob, you know on Saturday you tempted me with -

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Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Today's Saturday (weekend), and this's on Netflix ... HDR
Vikings: Valhalla | Official Trailer | Netflix - YouTube

So, given the show is rather addicting, my wife and I binged on it for awhile and have definitely enjoyed it

so far. Not quite this - https://vimeo.com/516584083

Nevertheless, as an aside,

was

[Show spoiler]

in one of the mid-episodes of Vikings: Valhalla

gkolb · 03-02-2022, 05:37 AM

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Hey contributors and viewers, our December views look like today's count of 12,966,317 minus a Dec 01 number 12,275,501 = 690,816. Not as busy as November's views, but we've had distractions like the Holidays, and Omicron.

Coming soon in January, we'll have CES (sort of toned down by Covid), and that usually amps up readership here in this thread. And we'll pass 13M views, another milestone of sorts.

Happy New Year to all!

and stay safe out there...

Last time I was here was back on Jan 1, no excuses, been occupied by other things and thoughts. (Mindful of the insane messy world we are in at the moment.)

HDR Discussion Thread contributors and readers have been prolific in the last 59 days! 1,204,665
[14,170,982 - 12,966,317= 1,204,665 / 59= 20, 418 per day avg. ]

Keep coming back for more! Wishing for P.O.E.

LordoftheRings · 03-02-2022, 04:45 PM

I agree; it's a different world we live in, ...today, yesterday, and for the last couple thousand centuries. I just don't know where this HDR world will take us after tomorrow under all the rubble and ashes of this imperfect technologie displayed on our imperfect flat screens .... HDR OLED and all that Dolby Vision stuff in the air and under ground.
Perhaps Samsung and Apple will bring more welcome competition; I just don't know.

What do you know?

Penton-Man · 03-03-2022, 12:54 AM

Yeah, I empathize with you gkolb. If you have a heart, it can be extremely difficult to compartmentalize one’s mindset away from significantly important worldly happenings, nor do I think we should without giving at least a passing acknowledgement to their existence as we’ve seen most recently from platforms as diverse as last Saturday’s introduction by SNL (who’s mission, conversely, is to do comedy) to sporting events like the soccer match where Roman Yaremchuk received a standing ovation when he came onto the field as a sub, to all forms of internet social media from professional sites like linkedin to Instagram, facebook, twitter, etc.

Personal emotional rollercoaster happenings can also be tough to compartmentalize too. For example and as a cinematic tie-in, inside, my wife can be/is quite clinical when it comes to dealing with suffering or even death, heck, that’s her job to be so; otherwise, worse things could occur, i.e. the potential for greater morbidity because of incorrect decision-making. That said, as fans of the very successful TV show Yellowstone and us being longtime horse lovers to boot - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...an#post7838562 and since I was also interested in seeing how the show was graded by Mitch (last year’s HPA winner for Outstanding Color Grading of a Theatrical Feature), we’ve also taken to watching 1883 - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1399123...m_flmg_eddp_14 – also highly successful in its own right.

Since some may recall that my wife unexpectedly lost a sibling not that long ago (Nov. 2020), which undoubtedly still remains ripe in her memory (if the right button is pushed like a well-acted moving drama which can involve death) for she teared up quite a bit during one of the last episodes of 1883. Ergo, I would advise that if anyone has lost a loved one not too long ago for whatever reason, unless you are inherently cold-hearted or don’t get into any movies/TV shows that intensely, that you have a box of Kleenex on the ready when watching this show, one episode in particular. Good thing is the scene ends with an upbeat aura.

Penton-Man · 03-03-2022, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Don't ever give up your dreams and your passion, no matter what.
Be proud of who you are and what you fighting for.
Stand your ground high and dynamically in range ... HDR

Despite being a self-made multi-millionaire and with that, having the ability to live a much more leisurely life, working 7 days/week and still finding the time to be gracious to others –

Penton-Man · 03-03-2022, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Today's Saturday (weekend), and this's on Netflix ... HDR
Vikings: Valhalla | Official Trailer | Netflix - YouTube

Rather than the fakery content that some movie reviewers are drawn to, I like survival type things especially when based on real events, I guess much due to the fact that I’ve participated in more than one over the years, e.g.

So even though Against the Ice doesn’t leverage HDR so much as to knock one’s socks off, I still enjoyed the movie and like with your Vikings: Valhalla, there is linkage to Greenland (actually even much stronger historical association). Inspired by true events -

Penton-Man · 03-04-2022, 07:18 PM

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...e#post19851025
^ Pushing the envelope during another time out of a different test base in the Mojave desert with Chuck Yeager for our Friday flashback post -

02-25-2022, 11:33 PM	#16103
Penton-Man Retired Hollywood Insider Member since:Apr 2007	^ Prevention and Solution - https://partnerhelp.netflixstudios.c...:text=solution

02-27-2022, 07:01 PM	#16107
Penton-Man Retired Hollywood Insider Member since:Apr 2007	On an archivists’ (https://www.facebook.com/amiarchivists/) note - Andrea introduces a discussion geared toward grappling with what to select as a keeper - https://academydigitalpreservationfo...xample-post-5/

02-27-2022, 10:05 PM	#16108
LordoftheRings Special Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Portishead ♫	Best OLED TV for HDR movies / Go big (83") or go home ▪︎https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/a90j-oled For 77" Class ... the best HDR OLED (save $5,000 Cdn) • https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/c1-oled

02-28-2022, 10:56 PM	#16113
LordoftheRings Special Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Portishead ♫	Don't ever give up your dreams and your passion, no matter what. Be proud of who you are and what you fighting for. Stand your ground high and dynamically in range ... HDR

03-02-2022, 04:45 PM	#16116
LordoftheRings Special Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Portishead ♫	I agree; it's a different world we live in, ...today, yesterday, and for the last couple thousand centuries. I just don't know where this HDR world will take us after tomorrow under all the rubble and ashes of this imperfect technologie displayed on our imperfect flat screens .... HDR OLED and all that Dolby Vision stuff in the air and under ground. Perhaps Samsung and Apple will bring more welcome competition; I just don't know. What do you know?

03-03-2022, 12:54 AM	#16117
Penton-Man Retired Hollywood Insider Member since:Apr 2007	Yeah, I empathize with you gkolb. If you have a heart, it can be extremely difficult to compartmentalize one’s mindset away from significantly important worldly happenings, nor do I think we should without giving at least a passing acknowledgement to their existence as we’ve seen most recently from platforms as diverse as last Saturday’s introduction by SNL (who’s mission, conversely, is to do comedy) to sporting events like the soccer match where Roman Yaremchuk received a standing ovation when he came onto the field as a sub, to all forms of internet social media from professional sites like linkedin to Instagram, facebook, twitter, etc. Personal emotional rollercoaster happenings can also be tough to compartmentalize too. For example and as a cinematic tie-in, inside, my wife can be/is quite clinical when it comes to dealing with suffering or even death, heck, that’s her job to be so; otherwise, worse things could occur, i.e. the potential for greater morbidity because of incorrect decision-making. That said, as fans of the very successful TV show Yellowstone and us being longtime horse lovers to boot - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...an#post7838562 and since I was also interested in seeing how the show was graded by Mitch (last year’s HPA winner for Outstanding Color Grading of a Theatrical Feature), we’ve also taken to watching 1883 - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1399123...m_flmg_eddp_14 – also highly successful in its own right. Since some may recall that my wife unexpectedly lost a sibling not that long ago (Nov. 2020), which undoubtedly still remains ripe in her memory (if the right button is pushed like a well-acted moving drama which can involve death) for she teared up quite a bit during one of the last episodes of 1883. Ergo, I would advise that if anyone has lost a loved one not too long ago for whatever reason, unless you are inherently cold-hearted or don’t get into any movies/TV shows that intensely, that you have a box of Kleenex on the ready when watching this show, one episode in particular. Good thing is the scene ends with an upbeat aura.

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