Fright Night (1985) (30th Anniversary Edition) (Limited Edition) - SOLD OUT

[Blu Myers]

I will definitely be pre-ordering tomorrow. Looking forward to it.

[Bruno X]

Less than 24 hours until the pre-order starts!

[rickah88]

[Blu Manchu]

[jrsl76]

I have had the original release since it came out, but I will be ordering this tomorrow for the extras since it's one of my favorite horror movies.

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by AKORIS

yeah but can't they create different accounts with different e-mail addresses and then buy numerous copies? Surely scalpers that do this have no ethics in most cases.....

SAE could make it as difficult as possible for people to order multiples if they really wanted to. They could limit it to one copy per the following criteria:

- E-mail address, billing address, shipping address, credit card number, IP address, etc.

If any one of those is the same additional orders get denied or automatically cancelled. Sure people could try to circumvent the system but it makes it more difficult for buyers to place multiple orders. You may be able to change email addresses, credit card numbers, IP addresses but it will slow them down. In addition, at some point the buyer will run out of valid billing addresses especially if the billing address and/or shipping address has to be tied to the address associated with the credit card. Same address it gets denied. Address doesn't match the address associated with the card it gets denied.

Originally Posted by rickah88

...any motivated scalper can, easily, circumvent that and still get as many copies as they want.

No. No. No. Didn't you hear that SAE will be cancelling multiple orders.

Originally Posted by SAE

STRICLTY LIMITED TO 3 PER CUSTOMER - ALL ADDITIONAL QUANTITIES OR ORDER WILL BE CANCELED!

[Thomas Irwin]

Originally Posted by Bruno X

Less than 24 hours until the pre-order starts!

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

SAE could make it as difficult as possible for people to order multiples if they really wanted to. They could limit it to one copy per the following criteria:

- E-mail address, billing address, shipping address, credit card number, IP address, etc.

If any one of those is the same additional orders get denied or automatically cancelled. Sure people could try to circumvent the system but it makes it more difficult for buyers to place multiple orders. You may be able to change email addresses, credit card numbers, IP addresses but it will slow them down. In addition, at some point the buyer will run out of valid billing addresses especially if the billing address and/or shipping address has to be tied to the address associated with the credit card. Same address it gets denied. Address doesn't match the address associated with the card it gets denied.



No. No. No. Didn't you hear that SAE will be cancelling multiple orders.

I'm sure motivated scalpers are laughing at this.
Hey, I respect SAE for placing a few barricades in the way, but if somebody wants something bad enough, they will get it.

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

SAE could make it as difficult as possible for people to order multiples if they really wanted to. They could limit it to one copy per the following criteria:

- E-mail address, billing address, shipping address, credit card number, IP address, etc.

If any one of those is the same additional orders get denied or automatically cancelled. Sure people could try to circumvent the system but it makes it more difficult for buyers to place multiple orders. You may be able to change email addresses, credit card numbers, IP addresses but it will slow them down. In addition, at some point the buyer will run out of valid billing addresses especially if the billing address and/or shipping address has to be tied to the address associated with the credit card. Same address it gets denied. Address doesn't match the address associated with the card it gets denied.



No. No. No. Didn't you hear that SAE will be cancelling multiple orders.

lol, SAE is about as backwards a website as you can get. it's laughably easy to bypass their limit of 3 with orders "that will be cancelled"...

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by rickah88

I'm sure TT would love to cater to every potential buyer on the planet, but they just don't have the time/resources to do so. So they have imposed limits in the hopes of satisfying as many customers as they can. Remember we already established it's impossible to please 100% of the customers, 100% of the time.
TT is putting out films that most US studios wouldn't bother to touch. So, if you look at it from that angle they are doing a great service for the HV enthusiast.
Clearly you have an axe to grind with TT, and I'm not here to change that, as it's your opinion. I'm just saying TT does a heck of lot more good than they do bad. That's all.
Also, as a customer you have the option to never buy from them. So I don't see how this is still an issue with people these days. You don't like TT, fine, there's the door. Everybody wins.

That's only partially true. I think the real truth is that they use self-imposed limits for the specific purpose of creating a limited edition model. Twilight Time probably could have licensed every title thus far sold, using the same (non-limited) model that virtually everyone else uses. In reality a limited edition creates artificial demand, so this extra demand means they can "get away with" charging more. I'm not knocking it at all, it works great for them. But I'm under no illusion they they can't sell titles with no limits (at least made publicly known) like anyone else. They aren't a start up company anymore that can't play by the same rules as the established labels.

Originally Posted by baheidstu

Sony licenced the title to Twilight Time. The 3000 copies sold out like hotcakes. Despite this, Sony decided the title STILL wasn't worth releasing themselves and re-licenced it AGAIN to Twilight Time.

It's not that Sony decided this, rather than the face that the generous licensing fee they can get from TT makes more economic sense. If TT wasn't around, then Sony or somebody would definitely be releasing it. After all, it's pretty obvious that it's worth a release, even from Sony if they wanted to. But the difference is that Sony (or anybody else for that matter) probably couldn't get away with charging $30 for it and sell 5000 units at the same time.

All that said, like Criterion, I do have a soft spot for TT. It's mostly because of their signed freebies. That's a nice touch. Getting an autographed signed by Oliver Stone or Pat Boone's, or other important person involved in the movie is pretty cool, IMO. Also I think most of their releases are very good quality.

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by wormraper

lol, SAE is about as backwards a website as you can get. it's laughably easy to bypass their limit of 3 with orders "that will be cancelled"...

Yes, I know SAE's statement is hollow. But it's still funny to see that they believe that if they post that statement on their web site it will somehow deter people from placing multiple orders. Or maybe they just want people to think they are deterring resellers.

SAE could easily upgrade their web site from the vintage 1995 look but they won't. If they did that it's less money in their pocket.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by bruceames.

That's only partially true. I think the real truth is that they use self-imposed limits for the specific purpose of creating a limited edition model. Twilight Time probably could have licensed every title thus far sold, using the same (non-limited) model that virtually everyone else uses. In reality a limited edition creates artificial demand, so this extra demand means they can "get away with" charging more. I'm not knocking it at all, it works great for them. But I'm under no illusion they they can't sell titles with no limits (at least made publicly known) like anyone else. They aren't a start up company anymore that can't play by the same rules as the established labels.

Unless a release is actually numbered, the term "Limited Edition" to me, is next to meaningless. Yeah it looks cool on the packaging, but that's where it ends. TT, like many other businesses, will use this as a sales ploy. Again, not their fault, just using what is available to them. If the public is going to whip itself into a frenzy, I think that public needs to do it's due diligence prior to purchasing.
A funny comparison is the "Ultra Limited" Zavvi steelbook. Yeah sure, "Ultra Limited", meanwhile it's available on their website for months.

Like I said a few posts back:
Get what you can. Like what you get.

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

Yes, I know SAE's statement is hollow. But it's still funny to see that they believe that if they post that statement on their web site it will somehow deter people from placing multiple orders. Or maybe they just want people to think they are deterring resellers.

SAE could easily upgrade their web site from the vintage 1995 look but they won't. If they did that it's less money in their pocket.

oh I agree. I was just chuckling at the thought of their empty threat.

[bruceames]

If the limits weren't working, then how come it takes so long to sell out the last 500 copies or so? I remember when Enemy Mine (the last sell out that had no limits at the end) had about 250 left and then a day later poof they were gone.

Now even a movie like The Blob took about a day for it to sell out the last 50 copies. The limits aren't bullet-proof, but they certainly do slow down the purchase rate and that's what the intent is.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

Yes, I know SAE's statement is hollow. But it's still funny to see that they believe that if they post that statement on their web site it will somehow deter people from placing multiple orders. Or maybe they just want people to think they are deterring resellers.

SAE could easily upgrade their web site from the vintage 1995 look but they won't. If they did that it's less money in their pocket.

It's like the folks that place a fake camera on their porch, or a blinking LED on their car dash lending the impression there is a car alarm installed.

Anyone that's worked in any field of security will tell you: You just want to make the "target" as unappealing as possible.
Those same folks will also say in the same breath: If someone wants your stuff bad enough, they will find a way to get it.

But I digress, we should be celebrating this great release!

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Unless a release is actually numbered, the term "Limited Edition" to me, is next to meaningless. Yeah it looks cool on the packaging, but that's where it ends. TT, like many other businesses, will use this as a sales ploy. Again, not their fault, just using what is available to them. If the public is going to whip itself into a frenzy, I think that public needs to do it's due diligence prior to purchasing.
A funny comparison is the "Ultra Limited" Zavvi steelbook. Yeah sure, "Ultra Limited", meanwhile it's available on their website for months.

Like I said a few posts back:
Get what you can. Like what you get.

That's the whole purpose, to "whip the public into a frenzy", to whip up "extra demand". Those people who buy just because there's a lot of buzz about it and that it will sell out and probably will resell for more than what they paid for it. It works like a charm.

[bruceames]

It may sound crazy to some, but I really haven't even noticed that SAE's website is "archiac". It seems to do a pretty good job at crunch time for the most part.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by bruceames.

That's the whole purpose, to "whip the public into a frenzy", to whip up "extra demand". Those people who buy just because there's a lot of buzz about it and that it will sell out and probably will resell for more than what they paid for it. It works like a charm.

Good! Sell the product, make the money, and release more titles.

[pEgLeG]

Does anyone know if we'll also be able to preorder through Amazon, or is it strictly through SAE?

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by pEgLeG

Does anyone know if we'll also be able to preorder through Amazon, or is it strictly through SAE?

no way in HELL this will hit amazon. plus TT doesn't list PRE orders on Amazon. only after they've already come out. TCM MIIIIIIIIGH get some like The Blob, but that would be the only other place