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Old 05-29-2023, 07:34 AM   #1281
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I can confirm that the Sony X700 does true TV-LED and the Google Chromecast does indeed ''fake'' TV-LED (the rpu metadata changes are done by the player).
https://slow.pics/c/3sARstln

So it seems to be an issue with the Android box.
How does one know if a TV is capable of TV led DV?
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Old 05-29-2023, 09:43 AM   #1282
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How does one know if a TV is capable of TV led DV?
Read the EDID TV utility. Or find information on the forums.
LG TV 2018 (C8 and newer) can TV-LED, Sony starting with XH or A80j A90j.
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Old 05-31-2023, 02:52 AM   #1283
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If you let me know which bulb it is you need, we can do this pretty easily. Our original ODM factory mostly makes bulbs for aerospace and automotive.

As for the keychain, to ensure accuracy, I believe we’d need a dozen LEDs, so it might be a really big keychain.

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Old 05-31-2023, 07:57 AM   #1284
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Read the EDID TV utility. Or find information on the forums.
LG TV 2018 (C8 and newer) can TV-LED, Sony starting with XH or A80j A90j.
LG E6 (2016) can do TV LED DV. Actually, it cannot input player led DV at all. Can be tested with Oppo 20x, which allows you to toggle this setting.
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Old 05-31-2023, 03:04 PM   #1285
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I believe my LG B6 supports TV led DV ? At lease it accepts it via my Oppo 203.
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Old 05-31-2023, 03:41 PM   #1286
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I believe my LG B6 supports TV led DV ? At lease it accepts it via my Oppo 203.
Indeed, as does my LG 65UH770V which runs on the same firmware as the B6...
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Old 05-31-2023, 03:46 PM   #1287
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As far as I am aware, all LGs support TV-Led.
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Old 05-31-2023, 05:24 PM   #1288
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I think there was a bug with the 6 series LG’s where it didn’t handshake correctly so the recommendation on the oppo forum for the 203 was to specifically set player or tv led. Not to use “Auto” which you would normally expect to do the right thing. This may cause some confusion.

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Old 05-31-2023, 05:33 PM   #1289
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I think there was a bug with the 6 series LG’s where it didn’t handshake correctly so the recommendation on the oppo forum for the 203 was to specifically set player or tv led. Not to use “Auto” which you would normally expect to do the right thing. This may cause some confusion.

Greg
In my testing, auto mode always defaults to player-led, so you should always force TV-led.

In the case of HDMI color space, auto is not about best quality, it is about fewest support calls. RGB24 is the only mandatory format.
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Old 05-31-2023, 06:36 PM   #1290
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I have a Sony A9G which supposedly isn't capable of TV Led DV. However, when i force TV Led on my Oppo 203 my Sony TV accepts it just fine so either Sony updated some of their older TV's to do TV led or the Oppo is defaulting to player led when you select TV led.
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I believe the OPPO falls back to player-led. At least it does on the Z9D when you try and force TV-LED.
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Old 05-31-2023, 09:03 PM   #1292
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Can the Panasonic players do forced TV led DV?
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Old 06-01-2023, 01:10 AM   #1293
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I have a Sony A9G which supposedly isn't capable of TV Led DV. However, when i force TV Led on my Oppo 203 my Sony TV accepts it just fine so either Sony updated some of their older TV's to do TV led or the Oppo is defaulting to player led when you select TV led.
See above. The OPPO is just passing on the player-led signal to the Sony TV even when set to TV-led.

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Can the Panasonic players do forced TV led DV?
No, it's all done automatically (but done properly, unlike the OPPO's Auto DV).
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Old 06-01-2023, 02:31 AM   #1294
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Check out my friend David Susilo​'s YouTube presentation of Spears & Munsil's new 2023 Ultra HD Benchmark 3-disc set.


David is a well respected professional calibrator and technical a/v journalist and has his PhD in psychoacoustics.
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Old 06-01-2023, 03:46 AM   #1295
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Check out my friend David Susilo​'s YouTube presentation of Spears & Munsil's new 2023 Ultra HD Benchmark 3-disc set.

Spears and Munsil 2023 Benchmark and Calibration Discs - YouTube

David is a well respected professional calibrator and technical a/v journalist and has his PhD in psychoacoustics.
I have all four Spears and Munsil’s test Blu-rays over the years including the latest 2023 release (one Blu-ray, one Blu-ray 3D, and two 4K Blu-ray). I just need to make time to open it up and use the product. Calibrating a display is very time-consuming process. But a amazing product these calibration discs are.
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Old 06-01-2023, 09:35 AM   #1296
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I have all four Spears and Munsil’s test Blu-rays over the years including the latest 2023 release (one Blu-ray, one Blu-ray 3D, and two 4K Blu-ray). I just need to make time to open it up and use the product. Calibrating a display is very time-consuming process. But a amazing product these calibration discs are.
With these uncertain times for the physical format, this new edition is a jewel, it is ground gold and a luxury that fans of this type of material can never thank enough.
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Old 06-01-2023, 10:32 AM   #1297
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With these uncertain times for the physical format, this new edition is a jewel, it is ground gold and a luxury that fans of this type of material can never thank enough.
It would help if matey actually had a 4K HDR TV tho
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Old 06-02-2023, 05:12 PM   #1298
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Just ordered mine to test on media players like Zidoo NEO Alpha, Z9X Pro and Apple TV. I guess this is going to be a huuuuge pain in the butt to remux with over 5000 files

Stacey you mentioned in the videos that for some test patterns for HDR10 you have a version where just the meta data changes and another one in which the actual data in the video changed as well. Is there any way to figure out which is which?

Would love to see this pattern as DV profile 5 with ICtCp color space in the not too distant future
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Old 06-02-2023, 05:16 PM   #1299
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Just ordered mine to test on media players like Zidoo NEO Alpha, Z9X Pro and Apple TV. I guess this is going to be a huuuuge pain in the butt to remux with over 5000 files

Stacey you mentioned in the videos that for some test patterns for HDR10 you have a version where just the meta data changes and another one in which the actual data in the video changed as well. Is there any way to figure out which is which?

Would love to see this pattern as DV profile 5 with ICtCp color space in the not too distant future
You have to look at each.
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oh great, so its clearly visible ?
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