British Film Institute (BFI) Discussion Thread - Page 71 - Blu-ray Forum

EddieLarkin · 10-21-2013, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelB

It will have come from Toho. So if that's what Criterion used too, that's what it'll be.

(At least in terms of the source - the encode is a different matter!)

I recall some caps between the Toho Blu-ray and the Criterion (can't find them now!) that demonstrated they are worlds apart. The Japanese release looked awful (like upscaled DVD awful), so awful in fact that I don't believe for a second the BFI would replicate it for the U.K. market. So it'd be interesting to know exactly what the story behind this disc is.

Vakulinchuk · 10-22-2013, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by EddieLarkin

I recall some caps between the Toho Blu-ray and the Criterion (can't find them now!) that demonstrated they are worlds apart. The Japanese release looked awful (like upscaled DVD awful), so awful in fact that I don't believe for a second the BFI would replicate it for the U.K. market. So it'd be interesting to know exactly what the story behind this disc is.

Hopefully "master from Toho" doesn't necessarily mean "same quality as a Toho bluray released in 2009".

Dan8700 · 10-23-2013, 08:03 AM

Just finished reading La Belle et la Bete review of the French disc, which features the new restoration, and BFI should seriously consider upgrading this classic. I never liked the Criterion and the only two shots available for comparison (if we coud have a couple more...) shows exactly why. Grain structure on the CC is poor, dirt all over the place and detail too is nothing exceptional. Just a shame this release doesn't include Eng subs as well.

crazyman · 10-23-2013, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan8700

Just finished reading La Belle et la Bete review of the French disc, which features the new restoration, and BFI should seriously consider upgrading this classic. I never liked the Criterion and the only two shots available for comparison (if we coud have a couple more...) shows exactly why. Grain structure on the CC is poor, dirt all over the place and detail too is nothing exceptional. Just a shame this release doesn't include Eng subs as well.

That looks incredible! Come on BFI, pull your thumbs out!

Judex · 10-24-2013, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan8700

Just finished reading La Belle et la Bete review of the French disc, which features the new restoration, and BFI should seriously consider upgrading this classic. I never liked the Criterion and the only two shots available for comparison (if we coud have a couple more...) shows exactly why. Grain structure on the CC is poor, dirt all over the place and detail too is nothing exceptional. Just a shame this release doesn't include Eng subs as well.

Someone asked on Twitter and their response was "we don't have any current plans to release this.".

Vakulinchuk · 10-27-2013, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mister Snoops

I am hoping its the same transfer as Criterion used.

it's been out for quite a while now - any reviews or screencaps comparison?

kristoffer · 10-27-2013, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Vakulinchuk

it's been out for quite a while now - any reviews or screencaps comparison?

I recieved it but havn't had time to check it out yet.

Vakulinchuk · 10-27-2013, 02:50 PM

Any report on this would be greatly appreciated, as this is the first regionB release of the movie, it comes from the prestigious BFI and it's only available thorugh the Zavvi store. So it's kind of an oddity, and people are anxious to know how it measures in respect of the excellent Criterion release.

(a downside of steelbooks: at release, everyone is talking about package, not PQ)

BAKA · 10-28-2013, 02:43 PM

Slightly off-topic, as they're DVDs, but does anyone know how much HMV are charging for Dead Of Night, Robin Redbreast and Classic Ghost Stories (all released today)? I know Fopp are selling each for £12, but I don't have a Fopp near me, so quite interested to see what HMV are charging.

dylan32 · 10-28-2013, 03:01 PM

Ooh, forgot about these releases. I'm mostly interested in 'Classic Ghost Stories for Christmas', but its £44 on Amazon (think it's cheaper at base.com).

Need to wait for next pay day...

mattyl149 · 10-28-2013, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dylan32

Ooh, forgot about these releases. I'm mostly interested in 'Classic Ghost Stories for Christmas', but its £44 on Amazon (think it's cheaper at base.com).

Need to wait for next pay day...

It's £44 for the original 5 disc set plus the new disc. If you have the previous set already, then you just need to get the single disc release

thechicken · 10-28-2013, 09:45 PM

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/vie...d=350912211049

The Seven Samurai steelbook is £10.45 delivered from Zavvi ebay outlet (Sorry for mobile link)

Embarrassingly I haven't seen this yet, think I'm going to treat myself.

Vakulinchuk · 10-28-2013, 10:22 PM

OK, I got it and watched Tony Rayns' interesting interview (thumbs up), and the movie's first half up to the intermission.

From what I can see (on my puny 42", calibrated), and using Rikichi's close-up at the beginning (see dvdbeaver), I'd say this is a notch softer than Criterion, but leaps and bounds better than the Toho's 2009 waxy disc.

I'm very happy with it and I hope BFI will upgrade more Kurosawa soon, just as they did with Ozu!

Dan8700 · 10-28-2013, 10:28 PM

A link now available at Amazon too.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Seven-Samura...=seven+samurai

That price at Ebay is incredible. I could really get this. But I prefer to wait for a comparison - the B&N CC sale is approaching, after all!

ps. thanks for the comment! What about extras? Only the interview?

Vakulinchuk · 10-28-2013, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan8700

What about extras? Only the interview?

There's the original trailer, the Tony Rayns interview which clocks just short of 50 minutes, and well... the ability to play the film with or without the intermission, I guess.

There's also the booklet with essays from P. Kemp and a british review of the time.

What else can I add... Tony Rayns rocks.

Dan8700 · 10-28-2013, 10:55 PM

Ta, mate!

jammyone · 10-29-2013, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan8700

A link now available at Amazon too.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Seven-Samura...=seven+samurai

It's sold by a marketplace seller, gzoop, which is just another Hut group offshoot just like Zavvi, IWOOT and a bunch of others.

MacEachaidh · 10-29-2013, 12:04 PM

Bummer. Amazon's just sent me an e.mail to say that Phantom of the Opera has been delayed. Now due for release in early December.

dylan32 · 10-29-2013, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MacEachaidh

Bummer. Amazon's just sent me an e.mail to say that Phantom of the Opera has been delayed. Now due for release in early December.

Not heard anything from base.com yet, but I probably will soon...

MacEachaidh · 10-29-2013, 12:52 PM

Could be worse, I guess — could be next February or somesuch.

10-27-2013, 02:50 PM	#1408
Vakulinchuk Expert Member Top contributor Member since:Sep 2012 Location:Italy Blu-ray collection:1161 DVD collection:41	Any report on this would be greatly appreciated, as this is the first regionB release of the movie, it comes from the prestigious BFI and it's only available thorugh the Zavvi store. So it's kind of an oddity, and people are anxious to know how it measures in respect of the excellent Criterion release. (a downside of steelbooks: at release, everyone is talking about package, not PQ) Last edited by Vakulinchuk; 10-27-2013 at 02:53 PM.

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10-23-2013, 08:03 AM	#1403
Dan8700 Special Member Top contributor Member since:May 2011 Location:Rome, Italy 4K collection:42 Blu-ray collection:1178	Just finished reading La Belle et la Bete review of the French disc, which features the new restoration, and BFI should seriously consider upgrading this classic. I never liked the Criterion and the only two shots available for comparison (if we coud have a couple more...) shows exactly why. Grain structure on the CC is poor, dirt all over the place and detail too is nothing exceptional. Just a shame this release doesn't include Eng subs as well.

10-28-2013, 02:43 PM	#1409
BAKA Power Member Top contributor Member since:Nov 2011 4K collection:50 Blu-ray collection:2589	Slightly off-topic, as they're DVDs, but does anyone know how much HMV are charging for Dead Of Night, Robin Redbreast and Classic Ghost Stories (all released today)? I know Fopp are selling each for £12, but I don't have a Fopp near me, so quite interested to see what HMV are charging.

10-28-2013, 03:01 PM	#1410
dylan32 Active Member Member since:Sep 2013 Location:Cardiff	Ooh, forgot about these releases. I'm mostly interested in 'Classic Ghost Stories for Christmas', but its £44 on Amazon (think it's cheaper at base.com). Need to wait for next pay day...

10-28-2013, 09:45 PM	#1412
thechicken Active Member Member since:Jan 2012 Blu-ray collection:835	http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/vie...d=350912211049 The Seven Samurai steelbook is £10.45 delivered from Zavvi ebay outlet (Sorry for mobile link) Embarrassingly I haven't seen this yet, think I'm going to treat myself.

10-28-2013, 10:22 PM	#1413
Vakulinchuk Expert Member Top contributor Member since:Sep 2012 Location:Italy Blu-ray collection:1161 DVD collection:41	OK, I got it and watched Tony Rayns' interesting interview (thumbs up), and the movie's first half up to the intermission. From what I can see (on my puny 42", calibrated), and using Rikichi's close-up at the beginning (see dvdbeaver), I'd say this is a notch softer than Criterion, but leaps and bounds better than the Toho's 2009 waxy disc. I'm very happy with it and I hope BFI will upgrade more Kurosawa soon, just as they did with Ozu!

10-28-2013, 10:28 PM	#1414
Dan8700 Special Member Top contributor Member since:May 2011 Location:Rome, Italy 4K collection:42 Blu-ray collection:1178	A link now available at Amazon too. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Seven-Samura...=seven+samurai That price at Ebay is incredible. I could really get this. But I prefer to wait for a comparison - the B&N CC sale is approaching, after all! ps. thanks for the comment! What about extras? Only the interview?

10-28-2013, 10:55 PM	#1416
Dan8700 Special Member Top contributor Member since:May 2011 Location:Rome, Italy 4K collection:42 Blu-ray collection:1178	Ta, mate!

10-29-2013, 12:04 PM	#1418
MacEachaidh Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Aug 2011 Location:Edge of the Accretion Disc Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Trading Score:4	Bummer. Amazon's just sent me an e.mail to say that Phantom of the Opera has been delayed. Now due for release in early December.

10-29-2013, 12:52 PM	#1420
MacEachaidh Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Aug 2011 Location:Edge of the Accretion Disc Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Trading Score:4	Could be worse, I guess — could be next February or somesuch.

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