Sony Black Crush on late-2014 / early-2015 BDs - Page 9 - Blu-ray Forum

chip75 · 02-23-2015, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rdodolak

Video card, monitor, and software settings are some of the variables which can affect the overall capture.

The monitor has zero affect on the quality of the capture. It has zero affect on the capture. Period.

I've seen posts from members that think that bigger monitors produce better quality captures too. It doesn't make any difference if you capture on a 19'' LCD monitor or an 60'' plasma, as long as the PC's resolution is the same it makes no difference.

You could plug a 100 different monitors into the same PC and each capture would be identical.

Darth Marcus · 02-23-2015, 06:42 PM

As someone with a properly calibrated panny plasma, I can confirm that the problem does not lie with LCDs, but with the disc itself (Fury).

jscoggins · 02-23-2015, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by chip75

The monitor has zero affect on the quality of the capture. It has zero affect on the capture. Period.

I've seen posts from members that think that bigger monitors produce better quality captures too. It doesn't make any difference if you capture on a 19'' LCD monitor or an 60'' plasma, as long as the PC's resolution is the same it makes no difference.

You could plug a 100 different monitors into the same PC and each capture would be identical.

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Originally Posted by Darth Marcus

As someone with a properly calibrated panny plasma, I can confirm that the problem does not lie with LCDs, but with the disc itself (Fury).

Yes, a thousand times yes!

Bad Sandwich · 02-23-2015, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by chip75

The monitor has zero affect on the quality of the capture. It has zero affect on the capture. Period.

Wait, there are people who think otherwise? Lol. This sort of transcends in-depth technical expertise and crosses over into the realm of pure common sense...

dvdmike · 02-23-2015, 08:55 PM

Anyone able to take a pic from Fury on the 4k video unlimited service?

I remember it being dark theatrically, but have not seen the disc for myself

HD Goofnut · 02-23-2015, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dvdmike

Anyone able to take a pic from Fury on the 4k video unlimited service?

I remember it being dark theatrically, but have not seen the disc for myself

bruceames has it and says it looks identical to the BD in terms of black crush.

dvdmike · 02-23-2015, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jscoggins

Whiplash

[Show spoiler]

The BD looks miles better to me.
This thread is all assuming one is right over the other with nothing to back it up.

dvdmike · 02-23-2015, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

bruceames has it and says it looks identical to the BD in terms of black crush.

So the conspiracy theories need to die then.

jscoggins · 02-23-2015, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dvdmike

The BD looks miles better to me.
This thread is all assuming one is right over the other with nothing to back it up.

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Originally Posted by dvdmike

So the conspiracy theories need to die then.

You just showed up without reading the entire thread.

Not every movie mentioned in this thread has this problem. We are using the process of elimination to weed out ones that are okay.

You are a troll.

HD Goofnut · 02-23-2015, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dvdmike

So the conspiracy theories need to die then.

How so? It could have been a error with the DI was struck from the master? It could also be an issue with the master itself. I can tell you for the fact that the black crush did not exist for Fury theatrically.

dvdmike · 02-23-2015, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

How so? It could have been a error with the DI was struck from the master? It could also be an issue with the master itself. I can tell you for the fact that the black crush did not exist for Fury theatrically.

People saying it was hobbled for the sake of 4K sales, is bs

HD Goofnut · 02-23-2015, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dvdmike

People saying it was hobbled for the sake of 4K sales, is bs

I suppose it is.

metallic · 02-23-2015, 09:14 PM

Picked up the UK release of Fury today and unfortunately it also appears to have the same issue.

dvdmike · 02-23-2015, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by metallic

Picked up the UK disc today and unfortunatley it also appears to have the same issue.

Sony use the same master worldwide normally

bruceames · 02-23-2015, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

bruceames has it and says it looks identical to the BD in terms of black crush.

Funny I noticed that on my Panny plasma Fury UV and Fury BD look very similar in contrast. The BD doesn't seem to have the boosted brightness that I'm seeing on my 4K Sony TV. If I dial the brightness down 11 notches from 50 to 39 on the Sony, then the issue goes away. I've checked other BDs on the Sony and the black bars are black like they're supposed to be, but on Fury they are not true black. However it is black on the Sony 4K and the UV (and the calibration levels are the same). So that's why I wondered whether LCD displays might be part of the problem.

dvdmike · 02-23-2015, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bruceames.

Funny I noticed that on my Panny plasma Fury UV and Fury BD look very similar in contrast. The BD doesn't seem to have the boosted brightness that I'm seeing on my 4K Sony TV. If I dial the brightness down 11 notches from 50 to 39 on the Sony, then the issue goes away. I've checked other BDs on the Sony and the black bars are black like they're supposed to be, but on Fury they are not true black. However it is black on the Sony 4K and the UV (and the calibration levels are the same). So that's why I wondered whether LCD displays might be part of the problem.

Now that is interesting, you have the x8 or x9 ips vs tn may be a variable

bruceames · 02-23-2015, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dvdmike

Now that is interesting, you have the x8 or x9 ips vs va may be a variable

Can you clarify? I didn't understand what the abbreviations mean.

dvdmike · 02-23-2015, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bruceames.

Can you clarify? I didn't understand what the abbreviations mean.

What model sony do you have? The two series use different panel tech

bruceames · 02-23-2015, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by chip75

The monitor has zero affect on the quality of the capture. It has zero affect on the capture. Period.

Doesn't affect the capture, but if the viewing monitor is LCD (like almost all are) then it affects how well blacks are displayed.

bruceames · 02-23-2015, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dvdmike

What model sony do you have? The two series use different panel tech

65x900A

02-23-2015, 09:14 PM	#173
metallic Member Top contributor Member since:Sep 2008 Location:UK Blu-ray reviews:1	Picked up the UK release of Fury today and unfortunately it also appears to have the same issue. Last edited by metallic; 02-23-2015 at 09:22 PM.

02-23-2015, 06:42 PM	#162
Darth Marcus Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:May 2011 Location:Chapel Hill, NC 4K collection:1480 Blu-ray collection:1734 DVD collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:76	As someone with a properly calibrated panny plasma, I can confirm that the problem does not lie with LCDs, but with the disc itself (Fury).

02-23-2015, 08:55 PM	#165
dvdmike Banned Member since:Jun 2010 Blu-ray collection:1069	Anyone able to take a pic from Fury on the 4k video unlimited service? I remember it being dark theatrically, but have not seen the disc for myself

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