Coronavirus (NO POLITICAL OR SOCIAL COMMENTARY PLEASE)

[Member-222782]

I use so much hand sanitizer throughout the day that every time I wash my hands there's a layer of slime that won't wash off easily. Sooner or later I'm going to develop an immunity to this stuff.

[Agent Bond]

I've been going stir crazy staying at home.

[Richard Graham]

I have to get tested later today. A guy I worked with on Monday has tested positive. I can't go back to work until I'm cleared.

[Britbuffguy]

Originally Posted by Richard Graham

I have to get tested later today. A guy I worked with on Monday has tested positive. I can't go back to work until I'm cleared.

I had that back right after Memorial Day. Enjoy the swab up the nose.

Are you at least getting paid? My company gave us all 80 hours in Pandemic Pay, can only use it if we need to be off due to getting tested and/or if the entire building needs to be shut down in case someone tests positive.

But if we for whatever reason go over 80, apparently the company will front even more pay. We are a delivery service, so they don't want anyone getting it or spreading it, so any hint someone might have it, they're told to go home.

[Britbuffguy]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Florida has now had record daily deaths for 3 consecutive days for their states, two days in a row now for Texas..

Remember like a month ago, when a few people in here were posting about the lowest death totals yet, and hinting that the end was soon near?

It's weird how I never see them post in this thread anymore.

[Pondosinatra]

Originally Posted by Britbuffguy

Remember like a month ago, when a few people in here were posting about the lowest death totals yet, and hinting that the end was soon near?

It's weird how I never see them post in this thread anymore.

Maybe they caught the 'rona...

[Pondosinatra]

Our province put up a self risk assessment tool online. But I think it's total BS.

Apparently I can blithely ignore the risks for the next 9 months until I turn 50 at which point that apparently makes a world of difference in my likely outcome - despite all the same health issues.

[ronboster]

Originally Posted by Richard Graham

There has been over 100 cases in my county. Over 1,000 in the surrounding area. No one has died. No one really got sick. They test positive. They quarantine for a few weeks. They go back to their lives. I don't get it. The overwhelmed hospitals, the respirators. And yes, people I work with, and know personally have contacted it, and the only thing they delt with was boredom of not leaving their home.

It doesn't add up.

Originally Posted by Richard Graham

I have to get tested later today. A guy I worked with on Monday has tested positive. I can't go back to work until I'm cleared.

Have you changed your opinion about the pandemic?

[ArrestedDevelopment]

Originally Posted by Pondosinatra

Our province put up a self risk assessment tool online. But I think it's total BS.

Apparently I can blithely ignore the risks for the next 9 months until I turn 50 at which point that apparently makes a world of difference in my likely outcome - despite all the same health issues.

They're stating that specific age based on established health guidelines. Obviously your body doesn't immediately turn to shit the moment you're 50.

[bruceames]

From the New England Journal of Medicine

For the past 6 months, policymakers and the U.S. public have weighed economic against public health considerations in debating what limits to set on individual and collective behaviors in attempting to control the Covid-19 pandemic. As fall approaches, attention has turned to a third pillar of a pandemic-resilient society: schools.1 Under ordinary circumstances, about 40 million children would be entering prekindergarten through 8th-grade classrooms this year, including nearly 27 million students in grades pre-K through 5.2,3 Until these children physically return to school full time, many will lose out on essential educational, social, and developmental benefits; neither the economy nor the health care system will be able to return to full strength given parents’ caretaking responsibilities4; and profound racial and socioeconomic injustices will be further exacerbated.5 We believe that safely reopening schools full-time for all elementary school children should therefore be a top national priority.

Many parents and educators are reasonably concerned, however, about whether any large-scale reopening plan can ensure safety for students, school staff, and household members, given high levels of community transmission in many U.S. regions.6 Contagion is a particular concern in schools that serve predominantly low-income communities of color, given that such schools are often overcrowded and understaffed and that the families whose children attend them are at especially high risk from Covid-19.7-10 It would be best — and evidence from many countries demonstrates that it’s possible — to lower community transmission rates by means of stringent control measures this summer so that schools can reopen this fall with an acceptable level of safety.11 Even under conditions of moderate transmission (<10 cases per 100,000 people),12 however, we believe that primary schools should be recognized as essential services — and school personnel as essential workers — and that school reopening plans should be developed and financed accordingly. (We also believe that fully reopening schools for middle and high school students should be a national priority, but given the more challenging transmission dynamics at older ages, we confine ourselves here to elementary schools.)

This is what I was saying a few days ago, that they should open up the elementary schools, at least in states or counties in the "yellow" zone (daily cases < 10 per 100,000).

rest of article in link

https://www.nejm.org/action/cookieAbsent

[bruceames]

Here is a list of states and the cases per 100,000, 7 day average.

From worst to first, currently 16 are under 10 per 100,000 right now.

[bruceames]

U.S. 7 day average of cases as of 7-31 is 65,191, down 5.7% from a peak of 69,159 set six days ago





U.S. deaths are at 1,100 per day, up 18% from last week's average of 935. Deaths should continue to climb for another week or so, as it lags about 3 weeks behind cases (23 days is what one source said), and cases started peaking about two weeks ago.

[DetroitSportsFan]

Indiana junior high student tests positive on the first day of school

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/...ss/5552735002/

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Lacit170

the quote you posted literally says "she believes the death was covid related"...they didnt even know if they actually had Covid in January lol

im sure they are higher than reported but you also have to offset the amount being reported a Covid when it wasnt....so while it likely is higher, doubt its anywhere near the numbers you suggested. even 30%...

as you mentioned, there is just no way to know, so can only deal with the numbers we do know.

an issue in VT a week or two ago....not deaths, but positive infections. 1,613 people tested positive....only to re-test and find out that only 5 of the 1613 positives were actually positive... how many times has/does this happen all over the country with incompetent labs but are never confirmed to be wrong? we will never know.

"65 persons who had earlier tested positive for the virus by antigen test at Manchester Medical Center, and found all but four are not confirmed cases.

Of the 65 people who tested positive, only four persons also tested positive for the virus using a PCR genome test, he said."

"When combined with the results of more than 1,000 pop-up tests taken last week in Londonderry and Manchester, that works out to 1,613 persons tested or retested with a PCR test - and only five positive results, Levine said "

https://www.manchesterjournal.com/st...untains,609682

the chances on tests of false positives can happen (a lot less then you think and a lot less then false negatives) But when it comes to deaths it is extremely unlikely that there are any false positives. Even in Belgium where the rules are the most lax it is not a statistical issue (i.e. it does not appear wrong in that direction)

But on the other hand https://globalnews.ca/news/7095141/e...erta-covid-19/ many months ago Statistics Canada (gouvernment agency that does statistical reporting for the country) compared expected number of deaths based on historical data and in the hardest hit provinces (Quebec, Alberta and BC--- they did not have Ontario data) there was alarge number of exess deaths and like this article shows the exess deaths were 10x bigger in Alberta thn the number of reported covid-19 deaths. Maybe gap between 402 and 40 was due to some unknown cause that was way more important then Covid-19 (like a monster attacked Calgary but somehow it did not make the news) but the reality is that non-covid-19 related deaths should be lower (less people on the roads when things are shut down means accidents were robably down....) and not much more like we see with the gap and so the covid-19 death count was probably way off.

PS not picking on Alberta, the article I found first had Alberta numbers in it. Also Quebec would not have made as good as an example, not because we did things right but because we did things that badly.

When it hit some senior residences Quebec decided to leave them in there and bring respirators to the residences not to overwhelm the hospitals, so it spread like wildfire in each of those residences and made for a lot of deaths but all the residents where being tested and so the count was a lot easier to do.

And there in lies the problem. Anyone that passes away before getting the results of a Covid-19 test gets missed in the count and why most places a have a huge gap during the worst parts of their local covid-19 attack between excess deaths and covid-19 deaths.

[veritas]

I do know one family that I am almost sure had covid back in late December to early January. One of them traveled to china for work got sick, got pneumonia and gave it to the other 2 over the course of a few weeks and they stayed sick for weeks.

[Member-222782]

Originally Posted by Richard Graham

I have to get tested later today. A guy I worked with on Monday has tested positive. I can't go back to work until I'm cleared.

Someone in a building near mine tested positive last month. I have a buddy who works there and he said no one was contacted - aren't they supposed to contact trace?

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by Cinema84

Someone in a building near mine tested positive last month. I have a buddy who works there and he said no one was contacted - aren't they supposed to contact trace?

Yes

[veritas]

Originally Posted by Cinema84

Someone in a building near mine tested positive last month. I have a buddy who works there and he said no one was contacted - aren't they supposed to contact trace?

Contact tracing isn’t fully set up in the us. If they take to long to get the results for your test they just move on to the next batch because they have more sick people then contact tracers by far.

[A Tortured Duckling]

My "Dis karownurr vaawus ain't reeyull!!" mother in law now has Covid-19. Thankfully, we've avoided them since March so we're all good.

Not going to the gym is killin' me.

[Richard Graham]

My test was cancelled. Getting me, and the other two I work with tested would cause the department to be shut down, or run too slow with unqualified employees filling in. Oh well, I only worked 5 hours today, but got paid for 12.