Coronavirus (NO POLITICAL OR SOCIAL COMMENTARY PLEASE)

[Lacit170]

Originally Posted by MrHT

Not getting political here, but I would expect the average human being to know right from wrong and shouldn't have to be forbidden to do something in order to get people to do it. People should do something because it's the right thing to do. In an ideal world, it shouldn't have to be against the law to rob someone. People shouldn't be robbing to begin with because it's wrong. People in this world have to use at least an ounce of the brain that they have. A lot of the things required of us in life are very simple.

That is why I'm so frustrated and upset right now. People just don't want to do the simplest things in life and that's why the world is falling apart at the moment. All of this can be gone if we just did the simplest things that's required of us.

you are getting upset over people sitting outside eating a meal

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by Batman1980

It's only not easy because most people think of themselves first, second and third before they think of anything else.

Exactly. People aren't understanding what I'm getting at. No, we shouldn't cower in fear and lock ourselves in our homes for years. But we should do so temporarily and if EVERYONE did their part, this virus would have been gone by now. But it's lingering forever because everyone has this attitude where they have to live their lives NOW and can't wait any longer.

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by Lacit170

you are getting upset over people sitting outside eating a meal

Yes because there's a deadly virus lingering about out there. It's not safe.

[Lacit170]

Originally Posted by MrHT

Yes because there's a deadly virus lingering about out there. It's not safe.

so deadly that states deemed it appropriate to open things up, like restaurants...

get a grip man

no one is forcing you to go out. dont look down at others doing so either though

[MrHT]

I have to be frank, I'm a little disappointed how people are always contradicting my posts. I tend to witness a lot of stupidity out in the world today and I was hoping I can post here and share my frustration with like-minded people here, who I thought could relate to my frustration. But I guess not.

Hypothetically speaking, this is how I feel right now.... I could go outside and see a car run a red light and run over a pedestrian. Then I would post here upset about what I just witnessed and then people here will contradict me and say, "Well if someone is in a hurry and has an important place to get to, they should be allowed to run a red light. In that case, running over that pedestrian is justified. Get a grip, man!"

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by Lacit170

so deadly that states deemed it appropriate to open things up, like restaurants...

get a grip man

no one is forcing you to go out. dont look down at others doing so either though

Yup and half the states in the U.S. are now in trouble...

I don't understand why the heated debate here. I'm not saying to serve a life sentence. I'm saying just wait a little bit longer until the pandemic is over and then dine out at all the restaurants you want to. Geez, what's the big deal about doing everything NOW? Nobody has patience??

[Chaotic]

You keep thinking the pandemic will be over soon. It certainly won’t be.

[Lacit170]

Originally Posted by MrHT

I have to be frank, I'm a little disappointed how people are always contradicting my posts. I tend to witness a lot of stupidity out in the world today and I was hoping I can post here and share my frustration with like-minded people here, who I thought could relate to my frustration. But I guess not.

Hypothetically speaking, this is how I feel right now.... I could go outside and see a car run a red light and run over a pedestrian. Then I would post here upset about what I just witnessed and then people here will contradict me and say, "Well if someone is in a hurry and has an important place to get to, they should be allowed to run a red light. In that case, running over that pedestrian is justified. Get a grip, man!"

the problem is that you find a problem here where there isnt one.. people dining at a restaurant when they are allowed to do so is NOT a problem jsut becuase you think it is...

if waiters arent wearing masks, then that would be a problem worth talking about..or something like that ...youre creating problems based on your own personal opinions

Originally Posted by MrHT

Yup and half the states in the U.S. are now in trouble...

I don't understand why the heated debate here. I'm not saying to serve a life sentence. I'm saying just wait a little bit longer until the pandemic is over and then dine out at all the restaurants you want to. Geez, what's the big deal about doing everything NOW? Nobody has patience??

again, you have yet to tell anyone when "a little bit longer" is. you seem a bit naive to think this is going to be over any time soon, meaning zero new infections.

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by MrHT

Yup and half the states in the U.S. are now in trouble...

I don't understand why the heated debate here. I'm not saying to serve a life sentence. I'm saying just wait a little bit longer until the pandemic is over and then dine out at all the restaurants you want to. Geez, what's the big deal about doing everything NOW? Nobody has patience??

12 to 15 months isn't "a little bit longer."

No one alive today has ever experienced S-I-P, all restaurants and bars closed, all movie theaters closed, all mass audience events cancelled, being asked to wear a mask and stay 6 feet away from others. These are radical changes to normal daily living. And they happened in a very short period of time. Some will adjust while others won't.

[MifuneFan]

Don't we have this debate every 3 or so days lol

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Don't we have this debate every 3 or so days lol

Yep - MrHT gets a bit of cabin fever than begins his chicken little the sky is falling diatribe.

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by Chaotic

You keep thinking the pandemic will be over soon. It certainly won’t be.

The length of the pandemic is determined by what we do.

[Lacit170]

Originally Posted by MrHT

The length of the pandemic is determined by what we do.

or if we reach 60-70% herd imminuty

pick your poison

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by Lacit170

or if we reach 60-70% herd imminuty

pick your poison

60-70% herd immunity will require A LOT of deaths; a number that I don't even want to fathom. Sorry, I pick social distancing, wearing a mask, and most importantly.... be smart.

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by MrHT

The length of the pandemic is determined by what we do.

The only comparison we have is the 1918 Spanish Flu Pandemic. Microscopes weren't good enough to see that it was being caused by a virus. They thought it was caused by bacteria because that's all they could see. They had no antibiotics. They never developed a vaccine. They only way they survived was by everyone wearing masks and gloves and S-I-P when possible. The Pandemic ran for two years and killed 50 million people worldwide. The country didn't come to a screeching halt. Remember this was over 100 years ago.

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Don't we have this debate every 3 or so days lol

What's funny is that when this pandemic began, I actually was stubborn and initially refused to realize the severity of this virus. But it was people here in this very thread that convinced me that this is a serious problem. And now that I've come to this realization, people are telling me to chill, get a grip and go out and live a normal life again even though the virus is still out there.

[Chaotic]

Originally Posted by MrHT

What's funny is that when this pandemic began, I actually was stubborn and initially refused to realize the severity of this virus. But it was people here in this very thread that convinced me that this is a serious problem. And now that I've come to this realization, people are telling me to chill, get a grip and go out and live a normal life again even though the virus is still out there.

My god. You can go out while wearing a mask and taking extra precautions. You are critizing me and others who do that.

[Moviefan1203]

Originally Posted by Chaotic

You keep thinking the pandemic will be over soon. It certainly won’t be.

It won’t be over until there is a vaccine in mass production.

[Lacit170]

Originally Posted by MrHT

60-70% herd immunity will require A LOT of deaths; a number that I don't even want to fathom. Sorry, I pick social distancing, wearing a mask, and most importantly.... be smart.

i wasnt suggesting that should be the direction to go but rather it might actually be quicker than waiting for a vaccine

since you wont answer how long you think this is all going to be over with lol

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by MrHT

What's funny is that when this pandemic began, I actually was stubborn and initially refused to realize the severity of this virus. But it was people here in this very thread that convinced me that this is a serious problem. And now that I've come to this realization, people are telling me to chill, get a grip and go out and live a normal life again even though the virus is still out there.

Think of it as the new normal. All you can do is trust that your local government is making the best informed decisions on reopenings and what the restrictions are in terms of masks and social distancing.

There will always be people on both sides of the extremes. The elderly, vulnerable and most fearful being extra cautious and only venturing out when they have to. And the young and restless who take unnecessary risks and don't always adhere to the guidelines.

I prefer to take the middle ground, not being fearful but still being very cautious and respectful of the rules set in place to protect us.

The new normal may be with us for years, so you may as well get used to living in it, and enjoying life's pleasures the best you can. You can't control what others do so no point in stressing over their behavior and just place your trust in the system (local Covid rules in place), that they know what they're doing and that their goal is to minimize the total damage from Covid and to the economy.