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Old 06-09-2012, 02:38 AM   #1
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Now that Warner Bros. and DC's Justice League movie is back on track, lots of little details are emerging about the rest of their superhero slate. That includes Green Lantern, which could be facing a reboot already.

Variety has the inside track on the DC projects, with the latest word being that the studio is "figuring out whether to bring back Ryan Reynolds as the Green Lantern in a sequel to last year's actioner or relaunch the character in a completely new way." Michael Goldenberg, who co-wrote the first film, was commissioned to write Green Lantern 2 back in 2010, a year before the first film debuted. It would seem, however, that script may never see the light of day. (Don't cry for Goldenberg. He's now on the newly re-energized Wonder Woman script, as reported earlier this week.)

Obviously, the notion of rebooting Green Lantern doesn't come as much of a surprise considering the financial and critical hit Warners took with the film. To spitball for a second here, maybe the studio figures they can just relaunch the character in the Justice League movie, perhaps going with the John Stewart version in order to bring some diversity to the team?

Additionally, many seemingly dead or on-life-support projects appear to be back in development, as per Variety, including Aquaman, Green Arrow, The Suicide Squad and Shazam. The Flash and Lobo, both of which were in the script stage last we heard, are also still on track. But some of these namedrops by the trade don't make all that much sense. Why develop a Green Arrow movie when you have a TV show featuring the character coming up this fall? Suicide Squad feels like a stretch when they're still trying to nail their main heroes. And an Aquaman movie? Really?

Still, there's no doubt that the big question facing the studio is what to do with Batman once Christopher Nolan completes his trilogy with The Dark Knight Rises this summer. Do they dare reboot? (Of course they do.)

The story continues that the studio execs are being careful how they proceed now, as they're still feeling the sting of Green Lantern (and, let's face it, probably Superman Returns as well). Sources indicate that the execs now realize they need to hire "creatives that genuinely understand the characters the way Joss Whedon was comfortable with The Avengers." That sounds like a no-duh kind of statement, but I bet it's a lot harder to achieve in the reality of the Hollywood system than you might expect.

Whatever the case, don't expect much more actual news on the DC movie front until after TDKR opens in July, at which point it sounds like Warners might want to put Nolan in charge of their whole superhero slate (he's already a producer on the upcoming Superman reboot Man of Steel). That's assuming, of course, that he wants the job.

What do you guys think? Should Nolan be running the whole DC superhero movie scene? Should Green Lantern be rebooted already? Comment below!
Hmm, funny this. Everybody was asking for John Stewart as GL and Nolan if he can show his involvements pay off via Man of Steel may show he's really well placed. Despite the protest that he has chosen to kind of ignore the comics a bit i think he managed to strike a good balance but i'm sure he'd perfectly balance a more comic centric world. Probably more a return to the version he was almost setting up via Batman Begins with the look of the city.
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I think Nolan's making TDKR "the Final Chapter" is because he doesn't really want to do that many superhero movies. It's not like he really went all out of his way to throw himself into the DC Universe with TDK, either.
Warner, of course, wants to find the Magic Bullet by asking every director to make exactly the last film they made within a pigeonholed genre classification and have it make just as much money, but I'm sure whatever "real-world Gotham" curiosity drove Nolan to experiment with "Batman Begins", and help get Warner out of their post-Schumacher creative slump, has been well spent out by now.

And even if it hasn't, Green Lantern is NOT "Nolan Godfather" material. Periodo. GoodFellas don't use power rings.
Maybe if they did the whole "Liberal Green Arrow vs. Conservative Green Lantern" idea from the 70's comics, but basically, what we're talking about right now is Warner refusing to admit defeat for Ryan Reynolds, and that maybe they shouldn't have tossed it off with such a cavalier audience kissup, when Avengers ended up making all that money for the rival studio by not acting goofy. (At least that Wonder Woman TV series isn't around for them to rue at leisure.)
It may take years, it may take decades, but sooner or later, Warner will have to face themselves in that hard, truthful mirror.

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Old 06-09-2012, 02:47 AM   #3
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I doubt very seriously they can get Nolan to do that. They need to do something though, b/c the the first one was so over the top it was ridiculous. It does not need to be like Batman, but they went way to far in that movie, and the screenplay was awful.
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I doubt very seriously they can get Nolan to do that. They need to do something though, b/c the the first one was so over the top it was ridiculous. It does not need to be like Batman, but they went way to far in that movie, and the screenplay was awful.
I don't for a second think that the actors were as much a problem as the completely ridiculous story and look they gave them. A diahorrea cloud that's got yellow, a big headed bufoon and the crappy CGI suit were chief among the failure. Green Lantern: First Flight was the Perfect blueprint for them to follow and they completely fudged that up
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I don't for a second think that the actors were as much a problem as the completely ridiculous story and look they gave them. A diahorrea cloud that's got yellow, a big headed bufoon and the crappy CGI suit were chief among the failure. Green Lantern: First Flight was the Perfect blueprint for them to follow and they completely fudged that up
Actually think the best thing about the whole movie was the suit..everything else fell flat on its face
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I don't for a second think that the actors were as much a problem as the completely ridiculous story and look they gave them. A diahorrea cloud that's got yellow, a big headed bufoon and the crappy CGI suit were chief among the failure. Green Lantern: First Flight was the Perfect blueprint for them to follow and they completely fudged that up
I agree I don't think it was Ryan Reynolds fault at all, or even Martin Campbell. It was the screenplay. I did not want to see the Green Lantern fighting the elephant man. Its suprising somebody wrote that and thought it was good.
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I think it would be really neat to see a Teen Titans movie.
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Old 06-09-2012, 03:06 AM   #8
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Actually think the best thing about the whole movie was the suit..everything else fell flat on its face

Heres that trailer again and heres what i think:

The parts with Hal just as a human were well done

Abin-sur sequence was well done for the most part, the attack of the diahorrea cloud kinda ruined it a little

The suit is ok in some shots like when you look at Abin sur when he gives Hal the ring, it looks perfect but then i wonder, was that an actual physical suit?

The CGI version of the suits and mostly OA for 75% of the time if not more looked waay too fake for my liking and ruined the immersion

Hector Hammond and his big butt looking head made me sick as bad as the dihorread cloud. Uninteresting villain and then a dihorrea cloud in the mix too.
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Like i said, GL: Final Flight, the perfect Hal Jordan origin story they could have told and they just had to go and make this piece of crap.
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Old 06-09-2012, 05:23 AM   #9
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I guess with the right deal Nolan would be convinced to be the JLA Godfather. Only if Fassbender could play Batman
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Meh Nolan is awesome but I don't want this. Doubt we'll see another Green Lantern film before the JLA movie unless they go with Kyle Rayner or John Stewart.
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I loved the GL movie. I think a sequel would rock with Nolan running things as long as Reynold's returns.
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I loved the GL movie as well and don't mind Ryan Reynolds to be back. As long as DC/WB takes care of the writing it should be fine. IMHO it's still way better than Capt America. Also, if they end up re-booting GL with John Stewart, Michael Ealy is my vote.
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I dont want Nolan's dark, cynical, "realistic" touch on all the DC movies
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I dont want Nolan's dark, cynical, "realistic" touch on all the DC movies
Agreed. Looking at all his films, I don't want to see a Nolan DC universe too terribly much. His style works really well for THIS version of Batman. I would actually prefer a different version of Batman in a Justice League movie, more along the lines of the JL and JLU version from the cartoon in the early 2000's. I would either like a good sequel to the movie; which I didn't think highly of, or reboot in the Justice League movie. If it is rebooted, no Ryan Reynolds. I like him as an actor and I thought he did a pretty good job, but he needs to get on to the Deadpool movie.
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I really liked Green Lantern; I'd hate to see a reboot done so quickly. True, it wasn't the best superhero movie ever done, but I've definitely seen worse. I'd place it on the same level as "Batman Forever" (my personal fave of the original four), and "The Phantom".
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I don't for a second think that the actors were as much a problem as the completely ridiculous story and look they gave them. A diahorrea cloud that's got yellow, a big headed bufoon and the crappy CGI suit were chief among the failure. Green Lantern: First Flight was the Perfect blueprint for them to follow and they completely fudged that up
And to top it all off, the reason they did waste two hours with the big-headed buffoon and the diahrrea cloud was that the villain we WANTED to see....was teased at the end in the hopes they'd get a sequel. Way to add frustration to injury, that'll keep that good audience feeling going.

(In our writing group, we like to say....Never "save it for the sequel", or you won't get one. You've got one chance, and if you leave the audience hungry, they'll take it out of your hide.)

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Agreed. Looking at all his films, I don't want to see a Nolan DC universe too terribly much. His style works really well for THIS version of Batman. I would actually prefer a different version of Batman in a Justice League movie, more along the lines of the JL and JLU version from the cartoon in the early 2000's.
To those actually looking forward to Nolan's "Let's pretend it's real" TDKR-verse, I state only that Arkham City for the PS3 could eat Nolan for breakfast and stay true to the print comics.
Call me heretical for not bowing down and worshipping TDK at the time, but I could smell a poseur when I saw one.

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I also don't understand why people complained about the special effects. You're dealing with a race of alien beings, who use super-powered rings to create anything they can imagine out of green energy...what would you have it look like? I think all the sequences worked to serve the story, and that's what matters.
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I really think that the weak part of the movie was Parallax. I think it failed to connect with people unfamiliar with GL. I still would have preferred them to start it out with Sinestro as the villain and just flashbacks of him as a GL.
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I really think that the weak part of the movie was Parallax. I think it failed to connect with people unfamiliar with GL. I still would have preferred them to start it out with Sinestro as the villain and just flashbacks of him as a GL.
I wasn't familiar with much of the Green Lantern mythos, but they did OK introducing Parallax as a former Guardian who got corrupted by fear. I think some folks are just too desensitized these days; they need every little thing spelled out.
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I also don't understand why people complained about the special effects. You're dealing with a race of alien beings, who use super-powered rings to create anything they can imagine out of green energy...what would you have it look like? I think all the sequences worked to serve the story, and that's what matters.
The problem is, at some points in the Green Lantern movie it could have been a cartoon, and there wouldn't be any difference. What I mean is there are parts in the movie, especially on the planet Oa, where the only thing "real" was Ryan Reynold's head.

But, as Hawaii Sun said, Green Lantern was still better then Captain America. I dont think a reboot is necessary, but a new director and script writer is.
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