HDR Discussion Thread - Page 633 - Blu-ray Forum

LordoftheRings · 03-02-2020, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

Well . . . if that's the case then there should be no need to have native 8K content. Just upscale 4K to 8K

Yes that, and also 8K TVs having the better video chips.

Lee A Stewart · 03-02-2020, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sapiendut

Completely different story. UHD is about resolution, WCG and HDR; 8K is only about resolution. A new member of this forum can comprehend this while you can’t?

And as we learned when 4K first came out - resolution wasn't enough to make it successful. That is why WCG & HDR were added.

Do you really believe that here, at the dawn of 8K, all we will get is an increase of resolution? That would be naïve.

sapiendut · 03-02-2020, 09:58 PM

Naive? I have actually tested 4K vs 8K eShift and I can easily see the difference on my 96” 21:9 screen from my usual 9ft viewing distance. Have you actually done the testing yourself?

PaulGo · 03-03-2020, 12:18 AM

The only way manufacturers can make 8K TVs appealing is to dumb down 4K TV and put all the advanced features in 8K TVs. They also need a gimmick. For 4K TVs it was HDR which made a big difference in picture quality. Perhaps for 8K TV it could be 3D!

PeterTHX · 03-03-2020, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

And as we learned when 4K first came out - (snip)

And there you have my earlier point - immature technology. Video transfers that don't take full advantage of the new technology on often beta hardware (just how much actual REC2020 is there right now?). People not knowing how to calibrate to the new standards.

I don't know why you guys keep harping on this. 8K isn't really even beta tech...it's still in alpha as far as I'm concerned. We'll reassess it again in the future - fairly. But for now I don't see the point in either praising it or condemning it.

Staying Salty · 03-03-2020, 12:52 AM

REMASTERED IN HD! UP TO 4K!

The comments on YouTube are so poignant.

LordoftheRings · 03-03-2020, 05:01 AM

Quick fast intermède ...

mrtickleuk · 03-03-2020, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by sapiendut

DVD released: “there is no need for DVD”
BD released: “there is no need for BD”
UHD released: "Wow, HDR is brilliant! The most significant revolution in TV since colour"

Fixed for you.

I want fully 12 bit panels, full rec2020 coverage, improved near-black rendering, perfect mura uniformity, better anti-reflective coatings, longer lifespans, zero vignetting, etc.
A higher resolution is at the absolute BOTTOM of my wish-list of things I want next.
But if they were to put those things only on the 8K panels and not the 4K panels, that would induce me, against my will, to buy an 8K panel.

Penton-Man · 03-03-2020, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Top Gun ...

yesterday, military.com beat the entertainment reporters at Variety and Deadline by a few hours with this alert – https://www.military.com/off-duty/20...ease-date.html

likewise, they are likely familiar and appreciative of Brian’s contribution to the making of the motion picture - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...p#post17328486

Penton-Man · 03-03-2020, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mrtickleuk

A higher resolution is at the absolute BOTTOM of my wish-list of things I want next.

lower than this? –
https://www.reddit.com/r/moviescircl..._was_intended/

geez guys, before he can retire, y’all be having Robert work until he’s in his 90’s

Penton-Man · 03-03-2020, 07:18 PM

PSA –

best practice, especially for those at home who can keep one next to their sink(s) - also scrub with a nail brush

Penton-Man · 03-03-2020, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

You have my vote.
In fact, I know the Fox Sports people, from experience, believe that any frame rate less than 100/120 fps for 8K produces too much motion blur for running players in American football, I’m just not sure if they’re willing to go on record and say so.

Free deep dive for members…..for those who aren’t, I think the fee is reasonable to present to your managers –
https://education.nab.org/nab/courses/16215

mike962 · 03-03-2020, 07:30 PM

Penton-Man · 03-03-2020, 08:31 PM

the maker of the FS-HDR – https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...r#post17350853 and other fine products withdraws from NAB –
https://www.aja.com/news/top-stories/895

Geoff D · 03-03-2020, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mike962

HDR Vs SDR -A Giant Scam, Nobody Wants To Call Out! - YouTube

HDR Vs SDR A Scam Nobody Knows| #4| John Wick 2 - YouTube

What a tool.

PaulGo · 03-03-2020, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

geez guys, before he can retire, y’all be having Robert work until he’s in his 90’s

Robert works because he loves what he is doing. You can see it in his enthusiasm and his constant quest to continue learning about the newest technology.

LordoftheRings · 03-03-2020, 10:55 PM

And it pays the bills too.

Geoff D · 03-03-2020, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

lower than this? –
https://www.reddit.com/r/moviescircl..._was_intended/

geez guys, before he can retire, y’all be having Robert work until he’s in his 90’s

I actually shudder to think of all the money (I'm not Rolls Royce rich or anything, it's still a hell of a lot of money for a regular schnook though) I've spent on home cinema over the last 20+ years chasing this and that technological development. I'm done doing all that. Don't even have a separate sound system any more.

PaulGo · 03-04-2020, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

I actually shudder to think of all the money (I'm not Rolls Royce rich or anything, it's still a hell of a lot of money for a regular schnook though) I've spent on home cinema over the last 20+ years chasing this and that technological development. I'm done doing all that. Don't even have a separate sound system any more.

I started when I was a teen. I built amplifier and tuner kits. Later I even built a Heathkit front projection TV kit which took over 40 hours to built and calibrate.

Staying Salty · 03-04-2020, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

Would the last person out of blu-ray.com please turn out the lights.

Or you could reframe it too: Who will have the last post in this Thread.

geoffd.png or .pentonsm.jpg

03-02-2020, 09:58 PM	#12643
sapiendut Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Canada 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:3	Naive? I have actually tested 4K vs 8K eShift and I can easily see the difference on my 96” 21:9 screen from my usual 9ft viewing distance. Have you actually done the testing yourself?

03-03-2020, 12:18 AM	#12644
PaulGo Power Member Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:North Potomac, MD	The only way manufacturers can make 8K TVs appealing is to dumb down 4K TV and put all the advanced features in 8K TVs. They also need a gimmick. For 4K TVs it was HDR which made a big difference in picture quality. Perhaps for 8K TV it could be 3D!

03-03-2020, 08:31 PM	#12654
Penton-Man Retired Hollywood Insider Member since:Apr 2007	the maker of the FS-HDR – https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...r#post17350853 and other fine products withdraws from NAB – https://www.aja.com/news/top-stories/895

03-03-2020, 10:55 PM	#12657
LordoftheRings Special Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Portishead ♫	And it pays the bills too.

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