HDR Discussion Thread

[Penton-Man]

b.t.w., speaking of monitors –

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

https://www.youtube.com/c/SonyProfessionalUSA/videos
For 2D aficionados, scroll right to ‘Coming Soon: Sony’s Premium Direct-View Display’, more January 6, 2021 as indicated at the end of the video

apparently, the specific time didn’t make it onto that ^ YouTube video. The unveiling is planned for 10 a.m. EST on January 6.

[Penton-Man]

quick forum visit as there are loads of Boxing Day football fixtures on TV today

[Penton-Man]

well done in making it happen, for the festive season, Robert - https://www.valueelectronics.com/Panasonic_Pro_OLED.php

and all things considered – https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...s#post18444008
the price is even smaller potatoes for discerning viewers

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Waboman

movie should be titled the Midnight Snoozefest.🥱

when the time comes, give us a sober (that means non-alcoholic ingestion while watching it) assessment of this movie - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...d#post18437710

doing well so far - https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/news_of_the_world

[Penton-Man]

^ Granted, our interests may diverge as I’m drawn to people in situations and entertainment based upon struggles and heroes, like so - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_Heroes_Fly

[Penton-Man]

Wabs, I red your whimsical reply to me on the ‘Everyone critiques Vincent Teoh Thread’, so, for the record, I pay off my credit card charges every month, carrying over no owed balance . Plus, you should see my monthly cc statement back in the day which included the 005 which was the first commercially available consumer display to use LED backlighting -

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Then from the 006 I bought the 005

of which I eventually received delivery after some production delays -

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Feb. 2005 Summary notes on Qualia 005 –
--INY is currently having production issues for the Japan model due limited backlight quantities. They are unable to fulfill outstanding customer orders as a result.
--The current line capacity configuration at the factory takes only Japan's production quantities into account. Depending on the initial and ongoing quantity requirements for the U.S. market, we will need to make sure that investments in line capacity are made accordingly. Based on a June production date, we should provide feedback immediately regarding our requirements.

for, on a cost/inch basis, it was way more expensive than the 006, considering it be a 46 incher and cost $14,999.99 and that didn’t include the wall mount (SUXWQ005) for another $799.99

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I think what guys and gals in color bays have found more troublesome is that no matter what one does in terms of calibration with some client monitors (not naming brands or models) is that some just can’t hit perfect blue (150/060) which is especially frustrating when a Director looks over from the client monitor to the grade A reference monitor and notices the significantly perceptually difference when you put up 100% saturated blue.

To be clear, I’m not necessarily referring ^ to the Panasonic GZ1000 which does an admirable job despite lacking the ability for a calibrator to upload new user generated 1D and 3D LUTs. I’m thinking of other client monitors that have been evaluated for use.

[PaulGo]

I watched Wonder Woman 1984 (IMAX 4K) last night on my Sony TV (HDR10) from HBO Max. I thought the picture quality and sound quality was very good. Gal Gadot was great as usual. Overall I enjoyed the movie, but it need a few more action sequences.

[gkolb]

Originally Posted by PaulGo

I watched Wonder Woman 1984 (IMAX 4K) last night on my Sony TV (HDR10) from HBO Max. I thought the picture quality and sound quality was very good. Gal Gadot was great as usual. Overall I enjoyed the movie, but it need a few more action sequences.

We watched last night as well, we (4 of us) felt the movie was okay good, certainly not great. The 4 leads were each captivating in their own ways. The story and pace seemed to be the issues.

However, our HDR viewing on our Sony Z9D was problematic in the last 15+ minutes including the credits as the colors and brightness jumped around from yellow tints to bluish then neutral. It happened over and over. Brightness varied during some of these shifts as well. Pretty sure it was nothing to do with the tv. Was it excessive viewers on the streaming servers, or grading issues for HDR version, or something else. We didn’t see obvious buffering or stuttering during the end of the movie. We all 4 saw it and my daughter spoke up first, as I waited to see if one of them brought it up first. It was perplexing, have not seen this with 4K discs or other streaming HDR programs. Wondering if anyone else has had this experience?

I did see a brief stutter in the first third somewhere that caused a 1-2 second sort of jump. Didn’t discern this happening any other time.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by PaulGo

I thought the picture quality and sound quality was very good.

if the streaming platform offered by Warner did its due diligence, then that's as to be expected, given the finisher - https://www.instagram.com/accounts/l...fansonnenfeld/

Originally Posted by PaulGo

Overall I enjoyed the movie, but it need a few more action sequences.

not this body, (in DV)

Nobody - Official Trailer (HD) - YouTube

[DanBa]

Latest Multi-HDR table:

. internal 3D LUT with direct access only for 2017 Panasonic EZ1000
https://www.avsforum.com/threads/pan...d-lut.2955208/

. new features of Skyworth’s high-end TVs (HFR, autocalibration, internal 3D LUT with direct access) added
https://www.skyworth.net/global/blog...ehind-the.html
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...9#post18459719

[Penton-Man]

LGs are, and have been, dominant in the Hollywood post production community because of their cost effectiveness. And those budget conscious shops and studios looking to upgrade their 2017/2018/2019 LG WRGB OLEDs this year are likely to have stuck with LG and chosen the LG CX because it has an appealing option in a menu where you can quickly set the HDR to P3D65 (which is necessary for mastering) without having to jump thru multiple hoops in order to get your work done (as was the case with the C8 and C9), then after mastering, move into 2020 color space for authoring.

Alternatively, those Hollywood shops with larger budgets and shall we say, being more investigatory proactive, seem to have chosen and installed Panasonic OLEDs because of those displays having a bit better picture.

Originally Posted by DanBa

"For the uninitiated, 3D LUT or look-up table is....

Seems the topic of LUTs in one form or another comes up every several months, which is a good thing because it provides an advanced learning tool.

[Penton-Man]

where's Wabo?, chat rooom?

[Ray Jackson]

Will playing a 4K disc on a 720p television produce PQ that’s any better than a regular HD Blu-Ray?

I have a 4K player, but don’t yet own a 4K tv.

[Ray Jackson]

Also is there anything I can do with calibration on my 720p television to improve the PQ of a 4K transfer.

The disc I’m playing does seem a little dark.

If that’s a stupid question..have mercy on my soul.

[Penton-Man]

^ Ray, there are no stupid questions, there is a different learning curve for everyone

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Vincent Teoh

desires to know if there is interest in - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...o#post18466462

[LordoftheRings]

While Tom is filming in Rome with his new sweetheart, I took the time to check two top HDR OLED guns .. LG and Sony. By the way in Canada the 65" class of those two specific models are the same price right now, $2,599 (roughly $800 off) till December 31 ...

* On another note; I saw some 75" HDR 4K UHD TVs (LED) for less than $700 (Cdn)!
And, some 85" HDR LED TVs for less than $1,000 Cdn, wow!
This is Boxing week, all week.

HDR OLED, best. But, is it the perfect TV for everyone? How many years can you rely on; five, more, less?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_ug...ature=youtu.be

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Ray Jackson

Will playing a 4K disc on a 720p television produce PQ that’s any better than a regular HD Blu-Ray?

I have a 4K player, but don’t yet own a 4K tv.

Originally Posted by Ray Jackson

Also is there anything I can do with calibration on my 720p television to improve the PQ of a 4K transfer.

The disc I’m playing does seem a little dark.

If that’s a stupid question..have mercy on my soul.

Some 4K Blu-ray players will do a better job @ converting 4K UHD to standard HD, like 4K Panasonic players for instance.

* 720p TVs you can't buy anymore today; even 1080p TVs are very rare, and 3D TVs are all but gone. TV grocery shopping stores carry 4K HDR TVs today (95%), and some cost less than a 1080p Oppo Blu-ray player, and 4K too.

If stimulus money is coming use some of it for a new 4K HDR TV to match your 4K HDR Blu-ray player. That would be a sweet upgrade to your 720p display. And go HDR size as big as you can afford. Investing in home entertainment in the year 2021 is a better and safer investment than say a cruise ship romance, or a plane ticket to a month vacation in France, or Italy, or Germany, or UK, or ...

Have a safe holiday time, @ home watching the best 2020 HDR 4K Blu-ray discs ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD2t...ature=youtu.be

[Robert Zohn]

The video you posted two up from this one was shot in my store by Shane of SpareChange and Brian of Whisper Status74.

The video is an interviewed/evaluation narrated by our calibrator, John and myself.