HDR Discussion Thread

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

ProArt Masters’ Talks X Kevin Shaw | ASUS ProArt Display PA32UCG - YouTube

Kevin S. (President of CSI - https://coloristsociety.com/ ) didn’t explicitly specify as to which, so does anyone know what type (technology-wise) professional displays Kevin is referring to with this comment today - “it’s already being discontinued in the professional displays”), timestamp here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=de...4Zck4#t=12m28s

Some here might be surprised as to the answer and no, he’s not referring to professional RGB oleds, that being old news.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Been super busy watching the Tour de France as well as the Euro 2020 tournament, so a belated observance of National Camera Day, which was yesterday (https://nationaldaycalendar.com/june...tercrunch-day/ ).

So, here is range of camera tests performed earlier this year for GSCA Innovations (Technical) Committee -
https://vimeo.com/530522840
password: love

Personally, I favor the cap.

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Right on man; we love our pets, we love our motorcycles, we love our healthy bodies, we love great movies, we love great documentaries, we love our tunes, we love quality pictures ... all in High Dynamic Range. We love our cameras, we love our displays, we love our gear, we love our food, we love life in the fast lane. We love top guns, we love Tom, Gerry and Chuck.

gkolb, how’s the viewership stat for the month of June?

[mrtickleuk]

Originally Posted by DDH

Technicolor's HDR is not dead ...

Baltimore Audiences Can Now Enjoy Advanced HDR by Technicolor on WNUV
https://www.senmer.com/baltimore-aud...y-technicolor/

Maybe not dead, but certainly moribund. Also LG - the only manufacturer to support it iirc? - has now removed support for it from their TVs! That says it all.

There's more chance of Samsung supporting Dolby Vision in all their TVs and also retrospectively firmware-upgrading all their old models from previous years to support Dolby Vision, than Advanced HDR by Technicolor taking off in any meaningful way IMHO.

[mrtickleuk]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Kevin S. (President of CSI - https://coloristsociety.com/ ) didn’t explicitly specify as to which, so does anyone know what type (technology-wise) professional displays Kevin is referring to with this comment today - “it’s already being discontinued in the professional displays”), timestamp here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=de...4Zck4#t=12m28s

Dual layer LCDs, perhaps?

[gkolb]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

...
gkolb, how’s the viewership stat for the month of June?

Originally Posted by gkolb

It's the end of another month, really a two month reading, as the APRIL glitch (when the site was down FOR EVER), didn't really provide a good snapshot for just those 30 days.

Tonight, the Viewing Count for this HDR Discussion Thread is 9,135,668. March 31 was 8,797,955.
The difference= 337,713. approx 6140/day (for the 55 days the site was up & running.)
It's just a number, neither bad nor good. The pandemic has caused ups and downs on many things we care about.

On another note, this thread passed 15,000 posts today. HDR is having a good time.

We had a little party at the end of May!

It's July 1 and there's been some awful heat on the West and East of N America, up LOTR's way I heard of over 120F three days in a row! Be safe one and all. Where I am it's over 100F for 5 days in a row and the forecast for next 7 days are all over 100. Got our A/C tuned up last month for the summer.

Viewers here have been busy. This morning it's 9,418,524 minus 9,135,668 end of May = 282,856. Everyone be safe in USA for the Independence Day celebrations and go buy a new HDR release.

There are good ones coming, i've got six new HDR releases arriving this month.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by mrtickleuk

Dual layer LCDs, perhaps?

bingo , and otherwise known as light modulating cell layer (LMCL) displays - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...g#post16421410 , the future of which is tenuous

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by gkolb

Viewers here have been busy. This morning it's 9,418,524 minus 9,135,668 end of May = 282,856.

I figure that’s a minimum of 9,400 views per day for this thread.

Originally Posted by gkolb

It's July 1 and there's been some awful heat on the West and East of N America, up LOTR's way.

ways to stay cool down my way –

BRIDGE - Body (Official Music Video) - YouTube

[Penton-Man]

DCI Releases Memorandum on HDR Double-Blind Image Testing
Approved 1 July 2021
Digital Cinema Initiatives, LLC, Member Representatives Committee

Memo includes the results of the double-blind testing in 2017 for determining black level and the double-blind testing for peak brightness last year to form its conclusions.
See pdf - https://www.dcimovies.com/announceme..._2021-0701.pdf

[Pagey123]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

DCI Releases Memorandum on HDR Double-Blind Image Testing
Approved 1 July 2021
Digital Cinema Initiatives, LLC, Member Representatives Committee

Memo includes the results of the double-blind testing in 2017 for determining black level and the double-blind testing for peak brightness last year to form its conclusions.
See pdf - https://www.dcimovies.com/announceme..._2021-0701.pdf

Thanks for this Penton. This kind of stuff takes me back to my undergraduate years and my Stats 1 and 2 courses.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

bingo , and otherwise known as light modulating cell layer (LMCL) displays - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...g#post16421410 , the future of which is tenuous

Boo-urns. So are they going back to OLED for pro monitors or looking at newer tech?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Pagey123

Thanks for this Penton. This kind of stuff takes me back to my undergraduate years and my Stats 1 and 2 courses.

You like dem numbers, eh . Well I’ve got to keep Agent Kay happy too
with numbers related to his region of interest -

Originally Posted by Agent Kay

Too much on topic stuff Penton, back to top gun

So, although not reported in the trade magazines, etc. or, for that matter, just recently here –

A Conversation with Top Gun: Maverick Director Joe Kosinski - YouTube

there were nearly 100 members of Local 600 involved in the production of Top Gun: Maverick.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Boo-urns. So are they going back to OLED for pro monitors or looking at newer tech?

I think if the pro light modulating cell layer panels remain accessible to Sony from a vendor, then they’ll stick with those as long as possible before transitioning to another tech, likely not back to OLED, which had its own problems and why Sony went to LMCLs (HX310 pro mastering monitor) in the first place.

[LordoftheRings]

Top Gun, extreme heat, global warning, forest fires, HDR, ...all that jazz.
AC when the temperature is between 40 and 50 excelsius is the ticket; without it you're cooked.
* 56.7°C (134°F) is still the one to beat ..., recorded in California’s Death Valley back in 1913.
• https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/...s-around-world

Distraction ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZCG...ature=youtu.be

[gkolb]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

… recorded in California’s Death Valley back in 1913.

Hey, that’s only 150 miles as the crow flies from me.
If I wanted to drive it, would be 250 miles due to terrain.

Our forecast is at least 9 more days over 100F, even 111 next weekend.
Too devilishly Hot!

[LordoftheRings]

Lytton, BC ... 3 days in a row with the record heat temperature in all Canada is 90% gone now.
Forest fires are very active right now in BC; many have started by lightnings in the last few days alone. The west coast (California) is also bracing for fires.
I think it's going to be a hot fiery summer, with new records again.
What can we do?

Back to our hot topic...HDR

[Penton-Man]

here ya go guys, this movie will keep you cool - https://www.netflix.com/title/81438065

[Penton-Man]

or, if that ^ movie doesn’t tickle your fancies, and you can tolerate SDR on NBCSN, then catch today’s Tour de France stage in the French Alps, that’ll cool you off. It certainly worked for me after this afternoon’s ride in the warm sun.
A taste of it on YouTube, i.e. cold and wet - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP2E3B2LW9g#t=4m8s

[Penton-Man]

b.t.w. Geoff D, Flanders Scientific has already discontinued their LMCL offering due to procurement problems.
P.S.
stop stacking groceries and get in on the Euro 2020 discussion in sports

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Pagey123

Thanks for this Penton. This kind of stuff takes me back to my undergraduate years and my Stats 1 and 2 courses.

For those who prefer deep dives with words and math, the newest draft versions of Addenda for Direct View Display D-Cinema and High Dynamic Range D-Cinema have been posted for consideration and comment by interested parties prior to publication of the final DCI specification documents. Submit comments to DCI by October 1, 2021 via email to dci.info@dcimovies.com.

DCI DRAFT Direct View Display D-Cinema Addendum version 0.96 - https://www.dcimovies.com/drafts/DCI..._2021-0701.pdf
DCI DRAFT High Dynamic Range D-Cinema Addendum version 0.96 –https://www.dcimovies.com/drafts/DCI..._2021-0701.pdf

[Penton-Man]

from theory/guidance expressed in 2015, before people were talking about it, much less actually employing their use –

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

So, in summary, especially with live action motion pictures, in order to harvest the fullest potential out of production intended from the get-go as an HDR release, what elements will need to *up their game* in comparison to that of shooting for an SDR production? - filmmakers capturing their imagery with the help of an HDR on-set display for monitoring the production.

flashing forward to opinions expressed in May 2021 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjWF2z67viE#t=36m9s