HDR Discussion Thread

[XGEEKEDGERX]

Originally Posted by The13thdoctor

I am going to try new cables. I get the HDR logo popping up and everything seems in order but I don't notice a difference picture wise. Example. Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone is supposed to have a new colour grade on 4k where it's more red and orange tints vs the blue tint on the Blu ray but when I compare between Blu-ray and 4k there is no colour difference. I do see a slight improvement in sharpness but nothing special with the colours. I even did a screen grab on my tv from both sources and flipped back and forth and noticed zero difference colour wise

What picture settings are you using for HDR content? Cinema? I've got a C7 and The Philosopher's Stone pops in both detail and colour to me eyes. I adjusted some of my settings based on the following and then played around a little for personal preference:

https://www.avforums.com/threads/lg-...tings.2106641/

[chip75]

Originally Posted by The13thdoctor

Ok I checked deep colour is enabled and all firmwares are up to date. Still not seeing any difference between an HDR picture and a standard Blu ray. Thanks for all the help so far. I'm new to all this. But as my settings stand I don't see any reason to upgrade to 4k as I can't visually see any difference between a HDR enabled disk and a standard Blu-ray of the same movie

You went to:

Home > Settings > All Settings > General > HDMI ULTRA HD Deep Colour

The TV reboots after you change the option.

What picture mode is your normal Blu-ray content on?

[oddbox83]

I have it turned on with HDR10 on my LG850V. Just seems to look better (set on low). Medium and high just makes it look like the sort of boosting gimmick that should be turned off.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by oddbox83

I have it turned on with HDR10 on my LG850V. Just seems to look better (set on low). Medium and high just makes it look like the sort of boosting gimmick that should be turned off.

I tried both low and medium and they seem to alter the natutal look of shadowa, like someone ia constantly pointing a flashlight at actors' faces on screen

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-J320A using Tapatalk

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Looking back on the Year 2017,

Question:
What was arguably the most unique film screening of 2017?....for sure, at least on Sunset Blvd. in Hollywood.

Still nobody get the answer ^ yet? Ray (from Michigan) given you being an avid HDR watcher I’d have figured you’d caught the flick on Netflix by now given the Holidays and such.

[Penton-Man]

Anyone get the opportunity to see yesterday’s Rose Bowl Parade on Channel 106 in….
Input sig: 4K60 4:2:0 BT.2020 12-bit HDR
EOTF: HLG ITU-R BT.2100-0

If so, any comments as to the image quality?

As to the floats themselves, this was a passing poignant moment, even in SDR –

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Anyway, lots of Monday morning quarterbacking throughout all internet AV forums/message boards and pity is, they know/appreciate as much for example about the next significant next-gen UHD parameter as they did about the pathway to HDR in 2014 - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ar#post9754213 ,
which was close to nothing.

Regarding the phrase bolded above ^

From a post made about a year ago -

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

So, all the various sporting native HFR test sequences ended up resulting in a substantial increase in QoE (quality of experience) as determined by study participants over that of 50Hz. Results being illustrated with the respective bar graphs….




Which leads to the question, which (type) imagery resulted in the highest QoE increase?

Does anyone know/remember the answer?

[Penton-Man]

Meanwhile while thinking about it ^

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

So, come the not too distant future, HFR and HDR hand-in-hand….
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...w#post12906036

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Question:
What was arguably the most unique film screening of 2017?....for sure, at least on Sunset Blvd. in Hollywood.

Answer:
Presented to a small audience viewing on a 77” LG OLED https://www.cnet.com/news/netflix-wi...ckbuster-film/

Thee HDR of this film is top drawer

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Still nobody get the answer ^ yet? Ray (from Michigan) given you being an avid HDR watcher I’d have figured you’d caught the flick on Netflix by now given the Holidays and such.

The past few months have been super busy between bathroom and kitchen remodeling, tragic deaths in the family, Christmas, new years, birthdays. "Bright" is definitely on the to do list.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by ray0414

The past few months have been super busy between bathroom and kitchen remodeling, tragic deaths in the family, Christmas, new years, birthdays. "Bright" is definitely on the to do list.

Sorry to hear that Ray.
Some non-technical opinions as to the movie itself - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...d#post14519458

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Sorry to hear that Ray.
Some non-technical opinions as to the movie itself - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...d#post14519458

I've seen multiple people online and at my work that said they liked Bright more than big budget Justice League. I've seen neither so far.

[Staying Salty]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Answer:
Presented to a small audience viewing on a 77” LG OLED https://www.cnet.com/news/netflix-wi...ckbuster-film/

Thee HDR of this film is top drawer

Would this be the first content using Dolby Vision and ICtCp?

[BrownianMotion]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Sorry to hear that Ray.
Some non-technical opinions as to the movie itself - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...d#post14519458

Absolutely horrific movie. Truly an abomination.

Picture quality is good, though.

[DanBa]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

... HFR ...

LG OLED 2018: + HFR among others
but only via broadcasting or via streaming (i.e. not via HDMI 2.1 48Gbps)
https://www.cnet.com/news/lg-oled-tv...ccess-in-2018/





https://www.slideshare.net/iMMovator...e-bette-pixels



https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/road-...eri-geutskens/



http://www.broadcastbeat.com/atsc-3-...ndard-emerges/

[Tns49]

Originally Posted by DanBa

LG OLED 2018: + HFR among others
but only via broadcasting or via streaming (i.e. not via HDMI 2.1 48Gbps)
https://www.cnet.com/news/lg-oled-tv...ccess-in-2018/





https://www.slideshare.net/iMMovator...e-bette-pixels



https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/road-...eri-geutskens/



http://www.broadcastbeat.com/atsc-3-...ndard-emerges/

Showing 6 bit, 8 bit and 10 bit. Where does 12 bit fit in.

[DanBa]

12-bit PQ Dolby Vision is using the current industry standard 10-bit HEVC coding.
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...4#post12877014

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Staying Salty

Would this be the first content using Dolby Vision and ICtCp?

Nope.
b.t.w., ICtCp with SMPTE ST 2084 was formerly known as IPT-PQ….
https://github-production-repository...zip-compressed

[RockyIII]

Are there any recent HDR demos similar to Meridian which really showcase the implementation of HDR/HFR?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by DanBa

LG OLED 2018: + HFR among others
but only via broadcasting or via streaming (i.e. not via HDMI 2.1 48Gbps)
https://www.cnet.com/news/lg-oled-tv...ccess-in-2018/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5DsLow4SVQ#t=52s

I’ve been flying alone for a long time posting about HFR….
https://forum.blu-ray.com/search.php?searchid=44535018

In detail, for example - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...r#post13558917

Not posted previously - for a little historical background for those who are probably unaware. Back in 2008, it was proposed to make something on the order of 300 fps to completely cure motion blurring. However NHK said that was impractical, ergo 100/120 fps was settled upon for the UHD TV standards.