HDR Discussion Thread - Page 193 - Blu-ray Forum

BrownianMotion · 01-07-2018, 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joce

Panasonic will release the first HDR 10+ TV.

https://www.avforums.com/news/panaso...lus-plus.14437

Not the first. The 2017 Samsung TVs already support HDR10+.

Joce · 01-07-2018, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BrownianMotion

Not the first. The 2017 Samsung TVs already support HDR10+.

Mybad. Changed it.

Penton-Man · 01-07-2018, 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joce

Panasonic will release it's first HDR 10+ TV.
https://www.avforums.com/news/panaso...lus-plus.14437

Where’s Heat

? You should be groovin on this ^.

Penton-Man · 01-07-2018, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

fire

and fury

….

https://twitter.com/wesball/status/949472382967734273

DanBa · 01-07-2018, 09:22 AM

A step in the right direction:
Panasonic's flagship 2018 Ultra HD Blu-ray player supports Dolby Vision & HDR10+.
https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...&id=1515296844

mrtickleuk · 01-07-2018, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrownianMotion

Not the first. The 2017 Samsung TVs already support HDR10+.

Indeed, but it will be the first HDR10+ OLED (when it is eventually released). Very interesting!

Also, good interview with Panasonic here:

Great to see him asking the direct question about whether HDR10Plus over HDMI2.0 is possible, and getting an immediate direct unequivocal answer of YES. The more uncertainty that can be removed on this question, the better.

Geoff D · 01-07-2018, 01:52 PM

Just as you could jury rig 300Mhz 1.4 HDMI chips to have certain basic 2.0 features like 4K60 @ 8-bit 4:2:0, it makes sense that existing 2.0 hardware could be updated accordingly with certain 2.1 features if the firmware backdoor was similarly left open. HDR10+ is just an additional packet of metadata after all, not some bandwidth-hungry change in resolution or whatever. HDMI 2.0a itself was simply about adding static metadata transmission (ST 2086) to the spec.

BUT even if/when a player or TV's HDMI chip can be updated with the correct signalling protocol you still need the video processing inside the actual display to be similarly updated of course.

PaulGo · 01-07-2018, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

and fury

….

MAZE RUNNER 3 Official Trailer #2 (2018) The Death Cure Movie HD - YouTube

https://twitter.com/wesball/status/949472382967734273

The trailer looks good but I would rather read the book!

HeatEquation · 01-07-2018, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrtickleuk

Great to see him asking the direct question about whether HDR10Plus over HDMI2.0 is possible, and getting an immediate direct unequivocal answer of YES. The more uncertainty that can be removed on this question, the better.

Not surprising at all. Credible people have been saying this would be the case for a while.

DanBa · 01-07-2018, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrtickleuk

...
Great to see him asking the direct question about whether HDR10Plus over HDMI2.0 is possible, and getting an immediate direct unequivocal answer of YES. The more uncertainty that can be removed on this question, the better.

So, like Dolby Vision, HDR10+ doesn’t use the standard HDMI 2.1 Dynamic HDR (i.e. transmission of dynamic metadata).

Otherwise, the HDR10+ compliant Panasonic TV is using the standard HDMI 2.1 transmission of dynamic metadata specified by the HDMI 2.1 standard (i.e. HDMI 2.1 / CTA-861-G HDR Dynamic Metadata Datablock & HDR Dynamic Metadata Infoframe) carried out by a HDMI 2.0 chipset, and waiting for a HDMI 2.1 Dynamic HDR certification once the HDMI 2.1 Compliance Test Specification finalized.

Penton-Man · 01-07-2018, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BrownianMotion

Algorithmic trader

Better start making more money now, one way being by solving these problems (VMAF algo)….

Because it’s looking like CES 2018 is yet another temptress to entice us to spend our cash. It never ends.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrownianMotion

Not the first. The 2017 Samsung TVs already support HDR10+.

Penton-Man · 01-07-2018, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

MAZE RUNNER 3 Official Trailer #2 (2018) The Death Cure Movie HD - YouTube

Seems these days it’s not very safe to take the train….

Penton-Man · 01-07-2018, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulGo

The trailer looks good but I would rather read the book!

As folks who read books, you and I would be considered ‘unstable morons’.

Penton-Man · 01-07-2018, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeatEquation

Not surprising at all. Credible people have been saying this would be the case for a while.

Heat’s back.
Game on.

Penton-Man · 01-07-2018, 05:40 PM

Soon headed out to sin city, but definitely not by train.....https://www.wanderu.com/en/train-tic...-nv/las-vegas/

Penton-Man · 01-07-2018, 08:30 PM

And where’s our 2themax

BD authoring and compression Insider been?
Note 2, for improving compression, November’s version (2.6.... https://www.mediafire.com/file/bbbvs...2e6f04b8713.7z )
includes a couple of HDR10+ bug fixes.

Penton-Man · 01-07-2018, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Soon headed out to sin city, but definitely not by train....

Alas, they throw me in cargo –
https://www.shoair.com/default.asp

At least maybe I'll get a free Team jersey out it.

2themax · 01-08-2018, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

And where’s our 2themax

BD authoring and compression Insider been?

I'm still here. Any rumors or misinformation is need to dispel?

ray0414 · 01-08-2018, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2themax

I'm still here. Any rumors or misinformation is need to dispel?

Were still wondering if DV and hdr10+ can be put on the same disc.

Adrian Wright · 01-08-2018, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ray0414

Were still wondering of DV and hdr10+ can be put on the same disc.

I will add 'Will Lionsgate be supporting HDR10+' to that too please

01-07-2018, 09:22 AM	#3845
DanBa Senior Member Member since:Sep 2010	Panasonic UHD Blu-ray player supports Dolby Vision & HDR10+ A step in the right direction: Panasonic's flagship 2018 Ultra HD Blu-ray player supports Dolby Vision & HDR10+. https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...&id=1515296844

01-07-2018, 01:52 PM	#3847
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	Just as you could jury rig 300Mhz 1.4 HDMI chips to have certain basic 2.0 features like 4K60 @ 8-bit 4:2:0, it makes sense that existing 2.0 hardware could be updated accordingly with certain 2.1 features if the firmware backdoor was similarly left open. HDR10+ is just an additional packet of metadata after all, not some bandwidth-hungry change in resolution or whatever. HDMI 2.0a itself was simply about adding static metadata transmission (ST 2086) to the spec. BUT even if/when a player or TV's HDMI chip can be updated with the correct signalling protocol you still need the video processing inside the actual display to be similarly updated of course.

01-07-2018, 05:40 PM	#3855
Penton-Man Retired Hollywood Insider Member since:Apr 2007	Soon headed out to sin city, but definitely not by train.....https://www.wanderu.com/en/train-tic...-nv/las-vegas/

01-07-2018, 08:30 PM	#3856
Penton-Man Retired Hollywood Insider Member since:Apr 2007	And where’s our 2themax BD authoring and compression Insider been? Note 2, for improving compression, November’s version (2.6.... https://www.mediafire.com/file/bbbvs...2e6f04b8713.7z ) includes a couple of HDR10+ bug fixes.

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