HDR Discussion Thread - Page 213 - Blu-ray Forum

Penton-Man · 01-29-2018, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

.looks like this thread is up nearly 12,000 views in a mere 48 hrs.
Rock on.

correction ^, over 12,000

Ernest Rister · 01-29-2018, 10:13 PM

New TV turned out to be a bust. Picture is nice enough, but the 3D - which was the whole point - absolutely ghastly. More ghosting than the Haunted Mansion. So Amazon's coming to get it on Friday. Returning the glasses, too.

I am so screwed...Can't spend $2000, can't even find a decent 3D model with HDR for under $1500. I wasted all this money over the years on 3D content waiting for the prices to come down, and instead, the exact opposite happened. Some days it sucks to be me.

LordoftheRings · 01-29-2018, 10:16 PM

The Statman...reminds me of a scientist still living today...Stephen Hopkins.

• https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...postcount=4242

LordoftheRings · 01-29-2018, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

New TV turned out to be a bust. Picture is nice enough, but the 3D - which was the whole point - absolutely ghastly. More ghosting than the Haunted Mansion. So Amazon's coming to get it on Friday. Returning the glasses, too.

I am so screwed...Can't spend $2000, can't even find a decent 3D model with HDR for under $1500. I wasted all this money over the years on 3D content waiting for the prices to come down, and instead, the exact opposite happened. Some days it sucks to be me.

That to me is the most alarming sign that our planet is on the brink of extinction.
If HDR didn't exist we would be toast.

PaulGo · 01-29-2018, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

PaulGo, let's make Blu-ray.com the best it can be. If you have any video technical subject I'd like to take a crack at providing the most accurate information.

Can you suggest subjects for us to discuss here?

I feel the subjects are outside of the scope of Blu-ray.com, such as Comcast Internet, Comcast Technology, and feedback on certain TV shows that I like watching. As you can see I have been on Blu-ray.com for many year and I enjoy contributing (when I come up with I hope something meaningful). I feel you can learn something from many different sources if you can filter it correctly. Currently my main obsession is with politics and I feel that some of my friends on Facebook must hate me by now with the political post I put up.

PaulGo · 01-29-2018, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I also like Stephen Colbert.

From what I've seen, that's a better choice than having a Cloi -

Stephen Colbert's Cyborgasm: Home Edition - YouTube

As I previously mention I was an Artificial Intelligence Specialist and a Computer Security Officer. Unfortunately with what I feel is the lack of security safeguards in many of these "AI" products I am very hesitant to use any of these products. I believe I posted here a year or so ago how insecure the Samsung TV OS was, and hackers have found ways use computers to spy users and steal information. I rather put up with the inconvenience as stay away for IoT appliances.

Robert Zohn · 01-30-2018, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulGo

I feel the subjects are outside of the scope of Blu-ray.com, such as Comcast Internet, Comcast Technology, and feedback on certain TV shows that I like watching. As you can see I have been on Blu-ray.com for many year and I enjoy contributing (when I come up with I hope something meaningful). I feel you can learn something from many different sources if you can filter it correctly. Currently my main obsession is with politics and I feel that some of my friends on Facebook must hate me by now with the political post I put up.

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Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

NBC will broadcast the Winter Olympics in 4K HDR with Dolby Atmos audio across the USA to Comcast X1 set top box subscribers with 4K HDR capable TVs.

Comcast is my favorite OTT carrier. I broke the news exclusively on Blu-ray.com that is not on "the other forum" that only Comcast is broadcasting the Winter Olympics in UHD/HDR to Comcast subscribers with X1 set-top-boxes.

I also became more active in politics recently, but keep silent on my feelings. I'd love to be Facebook friends. Here's my Facebook personal page and here's my business page.

Waboman · 01-30-2018, 01:27 AM

Comcast? I had their X1. Excellent UI. Terrible picture.

gkolb · 01-30-2018, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Comcast is my favorite OTT carrier. I broke the news exclusively on Blu-ray.com that is not on "the other forum" that only Comcast is broadcasting the Winter Olympics in UHD/HDR to Comcast subscribers with X1 set-top-boxes.

Well that blows, the only choice in this town is Spectrum (formerly Bright House), or a satellite provider I suppose.

Not surprising at all...

Robert Zohn · 01-30-2018, 01:48 AM

From what I know Comcast and Verizon are rated as the top two OTT providers.

Just like all a/v devices they need to be set-up properly.

LordoftheRings · 01-30-2018, 01:54 AM

Comcast, Facebook, Spectrum and Verizon; they all do HDR?

PaulGo · 01-30-2018, 02:19 AM

I believe Comcast will be doing some 4K HDR during the Winter Olympics. Currently they are also doing 4K Netflix and hopefully will soon be doing 4K YouTube HDR. Due to competitive pressures I believe most cable companies will soon do some 4K HDR. I still mourn the loss of 3D on cable.

LordoftheRings · 01-30-2018, 02:30 AM

It'll come back...someday.

Ernest Rister · 01-30-2018, 03:59 AM

All right...trying again with a 2016 Sony Bravia...if this doesn't pan out, I don't know what other options there really are without spending 3 large.

Penton-Man · 01-30-2018, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

The Statman...reminds me of a scientist still living today...Stephen Hopkins.
• https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...postcount=4242

Contributing to the expressed thoughts of the foregoing discussion.
I try to make my visual aids as simple as I can

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Penton-Man · 01-30-2018, 04:08 AM

Similarly, remaining as masked

as possible -

Penton-Man · 01-30-2018, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulGo

I feel you can learn something from many different sources if you can filter it correctly. Currently my main obsession is with politics and I feel that some of my friends on Facebook must hate me by now with the political post I put up.

They can't hate on little children holding up posters.

With regards to filtering, one should even filter the significance of rows and columns of numbers…. https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...m#post14425591

Penton-Man · 01-30-2018, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

If HDR didn't exist we would be toast.

Most emphasize HDR in relation to the ability to produce brighter speculars and more detail in the shadows, blacker blacks, but an underestimated benefit of good PQ HDR is the value it will enable in making skin tones appear more realistic than SDR with movie content....for humans. Few know the most accurate skin tones for wild marine iguanas and such.

LordoftheRings · 01-30-2018, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Most emphasize HDR in relation to the ability to produce brighter speculars and more detail in the shadows, blacker blacks, but an underestimated benefit of good PQ HDR is the value it will enable in making skin tones appear more realistic than SDR with movie content....for humans. Few know the most accurate skin tones for wild marine iguanas and such.

That's a good point, high point you just brought up about HDR and more realistic human skin tones. It is my reference point to calibrate my vision/screen display.Some 4K discs, and BR discs too have more accurate skin tones than others. And, it can vary from scene to scene...it all depends, of the many people working with lights, natural environments, camera lenses, editors, colorists, etc. It's not a clean affair between a horror flick and a romance flick.

When we buy a new display, player; we fine tune slowly to get familiar, the sign of dedicated video calibrators, time...to acclimate our eyes and the new display. Human skin tones are the perfect reference in video calibration. I am not an expert professional, so please correct me if I say something that is incorrect.

The last few days for example, I've been working on my skin tones, on a movie to movie (4K) basis. ...Passengers, The Martian, Kink Kong, Atomic Blonde. HDR can work in mysterious ways, like god, like the voice of god above in an Auro-3D setup.

It's a very good point, and worth exploring with HDR. I'm all ears listening.

* 6'3" ... 239 pounds ... that's Donald Trump the golfer with a 3 handicap.

Penton-Man · 01-30-2018, 07:27 AM

PTS Keynote free, now live –
https://tech.ebu.ch/pts2018

Keynote speakers probably won’t mention this detail - a worthwhile demo at the event will be IRT showing HDR HFR (100 fps) sporting content.

01-29-2018, 10:16 PM	#4243
LordoftheRings Special Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Portishead ♫	The Statman...reminds me of a scientist still living today...Stephen Hopkins. • https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...postcount=4242 Last edited by LordoftheRings; 01-29-2018 at 10:22 PM.

01-29-2018, 10:13 PM	#4242
Ernest Rister Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jan 2008 4K collection:100 Blu-ray collection:590 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	New TV turned out to be a bust. Picture is nice enough, but the 3D - which was the whole point - absolutely ghastly. More ghosting than the Haunted Mansion. So Amazon's coming to get it on Friday. Returning the glasses, too. I am so screwed...Can't spend $2000, can't even find a decent 3D model with HDR for under $1500. I wasted all this money over the years on 3D content waiting for the prices to come down, and instead, the exact opposite happened. Some days it sucks to be me.

01-30-2018, 01:27 AM	#4248
Waboman Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Dec 2009 Location:In a van down by the river 4K collection:197 Blu-ray collection:500 Trading Score:3	Comcast? I had their X1. Excellent UI. Terrible picture.

01-30-2018, 01:48 AM	#4250
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	From what I know Comcast and Verizon are rated as the top two OTT providers. Just like all a/v devices they need to be set-up properly.

01-30-2018, 01:54 AM	#4251
LordoftheRings Special Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Portishead ♫	Comcast, Facebook, Spectrum and Verizon; they all do HDR?

01-30-2018, 02:19 AM	#4252
PaulGo Power Member Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:North Potomac, MD	I believe Comcast will be doing some 4K HDR during the Winter Olympics. Currently they are also doing 4K Netflix and hopefully will soon be doing 4K YouTube HDR. Due to competitive pressures I believe most cable companies will soon do some 4K HDR. I still mourn the loss of 3D on cable.

01-30-2018, 02:30 AM	#4253
LordoftheRings Special Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Portishead ♫	It'll come back...someday.

01-30-2018, 03:59 AM	#4254
Ernest Rister Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jan 2008 4K collection:100 Blu-ray collection:590 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	All right...trying again with a 2016 Sony Bravia...if this doesn't pan out, I don't know what other options there really are without spending 3 large.

01-30-2018, 04:08 AM	#4256
Penton-Man Retired Hollywood Insider Member since:Apr 2007	Similarly, remaining as masked as possible -

01-30-2018, 07:27 AM	#4260
Penton-Man Retired Hollywood Insider Member since:Apr 2007	PTS Keynote free, now live – https://tech.ebu.ch/pts2018 Keynote speakers probably won’t mention this detail - a worthwhile demo at the event will be IRT showing HDR HFR (100 fps) sporting content.

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