HDR Discussion Thread

[LordoftheRings]

You are quite extraordinary Penton.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

You are quite extraordinary Penton.

I kept reminding my wife that and she responds with "I have the talking stick."

[LordoftheRings]

♠️

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

It is to me.

Brings back Insider-ish stuff memories -
My bike ride conversation from - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...on#post4057329 which occurred before the world premiere later that December…..

Came to pass - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...on#post4099353

And Geoff wonders why I spend so much time on, and talking about, being on 2-wheels.

At least you can ride a bike. My balance, it so bad.

[Pieter V]

Originally Posted by puddy77

Some camera news. Arri finally launched a new true 4k camera, the Alexa Large Format: https://www.arri.com/largeformat/

It's actually a 4.5k full frame sensor with a similar size and shape to the Sony Venice. And of course, with the new sensor size, it requires new lenses. The Alexa LF doesn't replace the Alexa SXT, but slots in between it and the Alexa 65. But I expect it will become the new workhorse standard. I also expect it will be getting a lot more work for Netflix and Amazon content.

Also, Panavision added the DXL2 8k camera which incorporates the new Red Monstro Vistavision sensor: http://dxl.panavision.com/

Very happy with the news.

First Look and Thoughts: New Arri Alexa LF Camera - YouTube

ARRI ALEXA LF Large-Format Camera, Explained - YouTube

ARRI LF Signature Prime Lenses & LPL Mount, Explained - YouTube

ARRI large-format camera system: An excursion on architecture - YouTube

More:

https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...IIAw%253D%253D

[RockyIII]

If I run a 4K streaming device through a Denon connected to 4K oled tv, would Dolby Vision streaming content play in HDR 10 or in 4K stripped of HDR metadata?

[batman2000]

i like the 10,000 nits display i just hope they can make it so the movies don't got over that many nit or they use the hdr wrong because i want this to succeed not hurt people.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

AI-chipped TV still has to learn how to deal with camera artifacts because what was evident at the respective demo at CES 2018 was that chromatic aberration is one of the things that AI incorrectly assumed was picture information as opposed to lens artifact.

But still, like I said, expect AI TV chips to be a game changer.

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I agree.
That said, when you look at it in terms of its usage for video processing, some of the chip manufacturers claim that when using AI on the TV chip (instead of a graphics processor), AI uses about 1/10 of the silicon so it’s ~ a tenth of the cost and we may see an extraordinary rapid acceleration in what TV chips will be able to do in the near future concerning things like scaling (e.g. 4K->8K).

And with regards to AI on the TV chip, file this little tidbit under making the lives of TV reviewers as difficult as possible , is that what these AI-chipped TVs will look like out of the box may well be completely different as to how they look after 1000+ hours…..after the AI has been trained inside the owner’s TV. Interesting times ahead.

Originally Posted by PaulGo

Some good uses of AI:
https://www.mediapost.com/publicatio...ection-at.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/14/t...start-ups.html
https://www.engadget.com/2018/01/07/...s-ac-ces-2018/
https://www.oled-info.com/skyworth-i...new-appliances
https://techcrunch.com/2018/01/08/lg...pply-ai-to-tv/

Paul, I just got around to reading all the articles in your posted reply to me from last Tuesday ^.
Your reference list is a fine primer for those new to the topic (without getting into the weeds, like with GANS - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhUmSeko1ZE#t=6m35s) and others here should also take the time to read it, if they haven’t already.

And, from your list, I note that the engadget writer picked up on “the 85-inch monster features a "proprietary algorithm" to upscale lower-res video for its Super Hi-Vision screen. The artificial intelligence comes in with its ability to "learn from itself" to improve over time -- which could be interesting…”
yep , certainly could be for those out-of-the-box TV reviewers, like I mentioned above.

Anyway, the promo video from Samsung on AI upscaling tech…..

Samsung 8K AI Technology - YouTube

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

At least you can ride a bike. My balance, it so bad.

Solution?
Pedal on a stationary bike in the back row of a spin class behind the Crystals?
That should provide an anchor.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

Very happy with the news.

With the Sony Venice you can choose any lens, format, wireless and follow-focus system of YOUR choice.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Solution?
Pedal on a stationary bike in the back row of a spin class behind the Crystals?
That should provide an anchor.

That would require me setting foot on the premises of a gym or other such establishment. Never done that in me life and I'm not about to start now. Besides, the ladies in front might get a little perturbed at having this sweaty, hairy mass huffing and puffing behind them.

[DanBa]

BrightSign announced that it will be introducing the first of its Series 4 Players, BrightSign XD4 and XT4, at ISE in Amsterdam on 6-9 February 2018.

"Following the award-winning Series 3 players, four models in the BrightSign Series 4 range are newly designed to support Dolby Vision and HDR10+.

In Q2 2018, the XD234 and XD1034 will replace the current XD Series 3 models and XT244 and XT1144 will replace the current XT Series 3 line."
http://www.ravepubs.com/brightsign-new-xd4-xt4-ise/




Digital signage:
http://carillion.com/digital-signage-technology.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_signage
https://www.slideshare.net/PaulRicha...gnage-products

[Penton-Man]

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...n#post14653985

In that same vein ^, commercial for Super Bowl LII -

Alexa Loses Her Voice – Amazon Super Bowl LII Commercial - YouTube

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

LII

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b01ce33eb1d0a5

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

And, from your list, I note that the engadget writer picked up on “the 85-inch monster features a "proprietary algorithm" to upscale lower-res video for its Super Hi-Vision screen. The artificial intelligence comes in with its ability to "learn from itself" to improve over time -- which could be interesting…”

From the folks who brought you HDR10+ comes edge enhancement, contract boosting and DNR - all on one chip!


Will the AI be smart enough to realize all those are what videophiles hate on their video transfers?

[PaulGo]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...n#post14653985

In that same vein ^, commercial for Super Bowl LII -

Which proves my point who would want a device that would constantly be listening to you and your family with the possibility of being hacked?

[Penton-Man]

PeterTHX, in case you need any ideas for this afternoon…..

Ref to the Rescue | 2018 Kona | Hyundai NFL Super Bowl LII - YouTube

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

PeterTHX, in case you need any ideas for this afternoon…..

Tsk tsk, I'll stick to Honda and USA Football.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Tsk tsk, I'll stick to Honda and USA Football.

Peter, car manufacturers aside, you missed the whole point of the video (it was......
pro American football….at least most definitely for the parents and, for that matter, I didn’t notice the kids dawdling off the field either after the last red).

Anyway, my wife and I were ecstatic with the result of the game, given our history of having lived there for several years….
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...gh#post7651390
and familiarity with the environs…..https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ill#post195266

Most exciting Super Bowl we’ve watched with friends in many years, not to mention our admiration for the gutsy play calling by Doug Pederson.
I think you’re forgetting, as a sportsman, I’m a longtime follower of the NFL too …. https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...t#post11738833

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

as a sportsman, I’m a longtime follower of

Eagles and Santa Claus….

Philadelphia Eagles: Santa Claus Finally Buries The Hatchet - YouTube

The True Story Behind Booing Santa Claus- Eagles Fans Boo Santa Claus- - YouTube