HDR Discussion Thread

[alexanderg823]

Originally Posted by mrtickleuk

This is the thing that I said was confusing so I will try to explain again.

"Standard" and "Movie" aren't "non-HDR modes". They are modes which auto-switch, and store two sets of values. They are effectively two modes of each, like Movie-SDR and Movie-HDR, but the TV does not tell you which it is in. It just calls both of them by the main name, eg "Movie".

My Q9FN indicates HDR modes on the little picture-icon. It will go from Movie to Movie HDR. I think he mentioned he's using an NU model, which is 2018, so should be running similar firmware to the Q9FN series. Dunno.

[DisplayCalNoob]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Tomorrow will be another big day on Blu-ray.com with big breaking news. I just feel it in my bones!

Look for a couple new threads in the "Ultra HD Blu-ray and 4K Hardware and Technology" area

Samsung to announce Dolby Vision support, streaming only. Sony Z9F starts shipping today, after announcement, with surprise HDR10+ support. Streaming only.

PlayStation 4(Pro) to support Dolby Vision streaming only.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by ray0414

Not if combined with anti glare. Semi gloss makes blacks look more grayish.

Not an issue with the Z9D

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by DisplayCalNoob

Samsung to announce Dolby Vision support, streaming only. Sony Z9F starts shipping today, after announcement, with surprise HDR10+ support. Streaming only.

PlayStation 4(Pro) to support Dolby Vision streaming only.

Streaming only doesn't help anything. It probably means they don't have the processing power for disc based DV as that is a more "robust" version.

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by mrtickleuk

This is the thing that I said was confusing so I will try to explain again.

"Standard" and "Movie" aren't "non-HDR modes". They are modes which auto-switch, and store two sets of values. They are effectively two modes of each, like Movie-SDR and Movie-HDR, but the TV does not tell you which it is in. It just calls both of them by the main name, eg "Movie".

To tell if the TV has switched to HDR, go to the Expert Settings and if it's switched to Backlight=20 Contrast=100 then it's in its HDR set of settings for that mode. You can, and should, set the other things to your taste (eg dynamic contrast, etc).

Also, if it's an HDMI input, the Info banner tells you if it's HDR - see picture below. So, use the remote to get to the Info banner. It's a single key-press on the proper remote with all the keys; buried in a sub-menu somewhere on the so-called "smart" remote.

But that only works for external sources: if it's USB or an internal app, you have to use the "look at the backlight number in Expert settings, and work it out" method.

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HDR doesn't max out contrast and backlight anymore on Samsung tvs. It just remembers your saved settings. So if you last used backlight at 12 with HDR, that's what it'll go to when it switches over. Only if you have it saved at max, will it switch over to max.

[gkolb]

Originally Posted by DisplayCalNoob

Samsung to announce Dolby Vision support, streaming only. Sony Z9F starts shipping today, after announcement, with surprise HDR10+ support. Streaming only.

PlayStation 4(Pro) to support Dolby Vision streaming only.

I don’t know how to share this with you, but you have a lot of streaming issues.

[DisplayCalNoob]

Originally Posted by gkolb

I don’t know how to share this with you, but you have a lot of streaming issues.

LOL, yeah....considering streaming therapy! Thought about naming my son, Download.

[Penton-Man]

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...n#post15348468
from yesterday's 1st hyperlink above ^ ‘Master’ seems to be a very popular word today….in hardware.
Hmmm, who would’ve thunk.

[Penton-Man]

Sony seems to be doing quite well this week, scroll to the bottom (Sony Venice) - https://cinematography.net/CineRant/...a-evaluations/

[Penton-Man]

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...g#post15156620
^, and another -> https://www.scenarist.com/scenarist-...on-8-released/

[LordoftheRings]

⊙ https://www.digitaltrends.com/home-t...nnounced/#/1/6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpeG...ature=youtu.be

Did he say 3D.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

⊙ https://www.digitaltrends.com/home-t...nnounced/#/1/6

Yeah, I know. I know.
Has anyone posting on the threads made a public commitment to buy one of these puppies, i.e. putting their money where their interest lies? I mean serious perspective buyers should (based on experience) have at least a rough idea as to what the prices will be despite them not being officially announced yet. Heck, if you’re #1, Robert may toss in an unexpected perk.

[Penton-Man]

I’ve got a function to attend this evening so I’ll be doing the July viewership numbers for this thread several hours early ->
1,380,041 (as of 5:00 P.M July 31)
- 1.255,502 (viewership total thru June)
= 124,529 total views for the month of June for Blu-ray.com HDR Discussion Thread

Good show! Again, congrats to the contributors…..https://forum.blu-ray.com/misc.php?d...osted&t=276605

[DJR662]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Did he say 3D.

He should have but ofcourse he didn't.

Just to p*** off loyal Sony/3D enthusiasts such as myself.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Yeah, I know. I know.
Has anyone posting on the threads made a public commitment to buy one of these puppies, i.e. putting their money where their interest lies? I mean serious perspective buyers should (based on experience) have at least a rough idea as to what the prices will be despite them not being officially announced yet. Heck, if you’re #1, Robert may toss in an unexpected perk.

I'm just waiting for the 3D bad news, or confirmation about the good news, right between.
Can you help?

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by DJR662

He should have but ofcourse he didn't.

Just to p*** off loyal Sony/3D enthusiasts such as myself.

Z9D would do just fine then.

[LordoftheRings]

If 3D was supported by the Z9F it would say in the specs. It does not say, so 3D is Gunn...caput.

Sony A9F / AF9 OLED - specifications - 55” and 65” models

• Features OLED as display device with Pixel Contrast Booster. 8 million self-illuminating pixels and Sony-original panel controller for OLED brings a significantly enriched visual experience with unprecedented black, authentic colour, and a wide viewing angle.
• Features Picture Processor X1™ Ultimate providing the ultimate 4K HDR viewing experience with the following technologies: Object-based Super Resolution, Object-based HDR remaster, Super Bit Mapping™ 4K HDR and Dual database processing.
• Acoustic Surface Audio+™ creates a rich sound field delivered from three actuators and two subwoofers facing sideways, that greatly enhances the viewing experience.
• Features Netflix Calibrated Mode that brings the creators’ vision directly to the TV.
• Supports CalMAN’s** professional-grade calibration. (**Requires CalMAN calibration software to be installed on your PC, a pattern generator, a meter (colorimeter, spectrophotometer etc.), and “CalMAN for BRAVIA” app to be downloaded from Google Play and installed on your TV.)
• Features vibrant, expanded colour with TRILUMINOS™ Display, further enhanced for colour accuracy.
• Android TV with hands-free help from the Google Assistant: Find what you want quickly, simply by talking to the TV. Ask your Google Assistant to help you play TV shows, movies, and more. Dim the lights and control your compatible, connected devices while you watch a movie for a better viewing experience. (Android Assistant not available in all countries)
• Minimalism styled with softness: the screen being a single slate with only a stand in the back to hold it up.
• HDR formats supported: HDR10, Dolby Vision™, HLG.
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Sony Z9F / ZF9 LCD - specifications - 65” and 75” models

• Features Picture Processor X1™ Ultimate providing the ultimate 4K HDR viewing experience with the following technologies: Object-based Super Resolution, Object-based HDR remaster, Super Bit Mapping™ 4K HDR and Dual database processing.
• Features X-Wide Angle which minimises the colour change when seen from the side. View faithful shades and hue from wherever you watch the TV.
• Features full-array LED Backlight for ultra-high contrast.
• X-Motion Clarity™ keeps fast action clear and smooth. Moving images are precisely controlled to minimise blur. Even during fast-moving scenes, pictures stay true with no loss in brightness.
• Features Netflix Calibrated Mode that brings the creators’ vision directly to the TV.
• Supports CalMAN’s** professional-grade calibration. (**Requires CalMAN calibration software to be installed on your PC, a pattern generator, a meter (colorimeter, spectrophotometer etc.), and “CalMAN for BRAVIA” app to be downloaded from Google Play and installed on your TV.)
• Includes X-tended Dynamic Range™ PRO to produce better contrast by precisely balancing the light output across the screen, dimming some areas and boosting others. It reveals a brightness range three times that of a conventional LED-backlight TV, and it enhances any source to near HDR quality with a wider range of brightness.
• Features vibrant, expanded colour with TRILUMINOS™ Display, further enhanced for colour accuracy.
• Android TV with hands-free help from the Google Assistant: Find what you want quickly, simply by talking to the TV. Ask your Google Assistant to help you play TV shows, movies, and more. Dim the lights and control your compatible, connected devices while you watch a movie for a better viewing experience. (Android Assistant not available in all countries)
• Clean cable management for table top mount.
• HDR formats supported: HDR10, Dolby Vision™, HLG

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

I'm just waiting for the 3D bad news, or confirmation about the good news, right between.
Can you help?

i thought you already knew and were expressing disappointment at the end
it could be worse, like disney situation with physical media and dovi

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by DisplayCalNoob

I watched that Dolby video a couple days ago, really interesting to see Tom is a fan.

he’ll be back in san diego come september filming you know what with claudio and the crew

[LordoftheRings]

Is there some good news somewhere?

- Disney ditched 3D.
- Disney ditched DV.
- Disney ditched Dolby Atmos by compressing it.
- Disney ditched James Gunn (oops, that's not bad news).

Sony and Panasonic seems to be the only good news on improving HDR, but still missing some important ingredients.

Yesterday I should have gone to bed; today is no different than yesterday.