HDR Discussion Thread

[Penton-Man]

https://vimeo.com/264211599
for the Brits….https://dolbyvisioncontentcreationlo...plashthat.com/
lunch break over for me, back to work, carry on

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I can’t do a long post this evening, however I probably can grab a quick 9:00 PM Pacific Time screenshot for a later numbers tally for September.

It'll be close to 3 billion* views for September.

* In the 300,000 range...less than the month before and more than the two months prior.

What is the most viewed music video of all time today in the whole world?

[Show spoiler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJQP...ature=youtu.be

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by BrownianMotion

It wasn't actually native 4K, which again, goes to show that even upscaled 4K can look very sharp and detailed, especially when paired with HDR. The cameras they used were 1080p, but they upscaled to 4K for delivery.



It was supposed to be HDR via the Fox Sports app. Did you not have the proper equipment for HLG over HDMI?

I'm aware. The main cameras all looked amazing. I would take that quality forever and never complain.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

It'll be close to 3 billion* views for September.

* In the 300,000 range...less than the month before and more than the two months prior.

What is the most viewed music video of all time today in the whole world?

[Show spoiler] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJQP...ature=youtu.be

it’s only fitting that right after i post a vimeo of DV colorful container, you post a video of the la perla community.
will now grab a screenshot of the thread viewership columns and post tomorrow during lunch for maths

[LordoftheRings]

3,640,976 views (End of September)

* End of August: 3,341,446 views @ 9:00 PM

So almost 300,000 views for September ... roughly 500 short.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by ray0414

The main cameras all looked amazing. I would take that quality forever and never complain.

Tell that to this journo genius which some of you guys follow…..”anyone who’s seen native 4K running against upscaled 4K - especially when the upscaling is happening in a ‘live’ environment - will know that upscaled 4K is no rival for the real 4K deal.” <- who obviously has no firsthand experience with - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...g#post16886645

[Penton-Man]

Nice follow-up to 09-24 post – https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...+#post16874974

See this accurate reporting a day later - http://www.filmcommissionchile.org/c...l-en-santiago/

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

3,640,976 views (End of September)

* End of August: 3,341,446 views @ 9:00 PM

So almost 300,000 views for September ... roughly 500 short.

you got it, just a hair short of 10,000 views/day , kinda of amazing given only one new utility pole and a couple of music videos posted this month –

[ray0414]

More great news, Fox is going 4k HDR for the MLB playoffs too. Looks like the same rules apply as the Thursday Night NFL 4k games.


https://www.tvtechnology.com/news/fo...o-be-in-4k-hdr

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by ray0414

I'm aware. The main cameras all looked amazing. I would take that quality forever and never complain.

Oh, sweet irony. It's almost as if everything isn't shot to look the same?

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Tell that to this journo genius which some of you guys follow…..”anyone who’s seen native 4K running against upscaled 4K - especially when the upscaling is happening in a ‘live’ environment - will know that upscaled 4K is no rival for the real 4K deal.” <- who obviously has no firsthand experience with - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...g#post16886645

Not just the upscaling though, dare I say it that the added temporal resolution - this was actually broadcast at 60p, right? - is what's also having a major impact on how 'sharp' or 'detailed' or whatever that people are perceiving it to be. If I was offered a sports broadcast of 1080p60 (upscaled or not) versus 2160p30 I'd take the former every time.

Loved John Archer's rant about it, he called the HDR rollout a "fiasco" and an "embarassment" but I could say the same thing about some of the stuff he wrote in that same article. And lol @ him blathering on about the Bond UHDs having DV and how it relates to his clickbait "format war" narrative, talking about Fox like they were calling the shots with the decision to have DV. Ummm...nope, it's MGM's call and Fox are doing what they've been told to do by the company that employs them to distribute their home video product. Archer's starting to reach peak irrelevance.

[avs commenter]

Originally Posted by ray0414

More great news, Fox is going 4k HDR for the MLB playoffs too. Looks like the same rules apply as the Thursday Night NFL 4k games.


https://www.tvtechnology.com/news/fo...o-be-in-4k-hdr

The HDR (HLG) is only available for DTV/DISH. Not streaming

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

you got it, just a hair short of 10,000 views/day , kinda of amazing given only one new utility pole and a couple of music videos posted this month –

It is ... amazing; all things considering.

* Was it last month that someone mentioned Jennifer Lopez's new affection for that "utility post" in her new film 'Hustlers'. That should have counted for something yes? ...Something important.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6Ze...ature=youtu.be

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

That should have counted for something yes?

Yeah Waboman - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...e#post16536898
you ^ of all folks should be giving LordoftheRings some credit

P.S.
Offering a shout out to more of the crew, for it took a village - the blonde assistant wearing the cap seen in the background just above Tom’s shoulder in the 3rd pic here…. https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...e#post16536898
is Britta

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Waboman

I'm po'

no you’re not, so you can reach into your couch cushions and put a bid on this - https://www.charitybuzz.com/catalog_...6th-in-1889900

[avs commenter]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarc.../#4bd82d957724

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Not just the upscaling though, dare I say it that the added temporal resolution - this was actually broadcast at 60p, right? - is what's also having a major impact on how 'sharp' or 'detailed' or whatever that people are perceiving it to be. If I was offered a sports broadcast of 1080p60 (upscaled or not) versus 2160p30 I'd take the former every time.

Loved John Archer's rant about it, he called the HDR rollout a "fiasco" and an "embarassment" but I could say the same thing about some of the stuff he wrote in that same article. And lol @ him blathering on about the Bond UHDs having DV and how it relates to his clickbait "format war" narrative, talking about Fox like they were calling the shots with the decision to have DV. Ummm...nope, it's MGM's call and Fox are doing what they've been told to do by the company that employs them to distribute their home video product. Archer's starting to reach peak irrelevance.

Plus, as was said over a year ago -

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

And 1080p120 is superior to 2160p60. The Holy Grail for sports is 120;

[Penton-Man]

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...c#post16792257 ->

SMPTE 2018: Quantitative Evaluation and Attribute of Overall Brightness in a HDR World - YouTube

and for you mountain bikers reading (including other Insiders - https://forum.blu-ray.com/forumdisplay.php?f=61, paidgeek et al.), what’s holding you back from one of the best singletrack adventures in the world? - https://www.bcbikerace.com/

[Penton-Man]

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...d#post16894223 ->
DanBa – did you or any of your friends by chance get the opportunity to see this at Beaugrenelle?

[Waboman]

Sacré bleu! I need to take a yes yes. Or as the Frenchy's say, a oui oui.

[DanBa]

Broadcom BCM7218X STB SoC should be the 1st multi-HDR SoC supporting AV1 hardware video decoding along with HEVC / VP9.
https://www.cnx-software.com/2019/09...coding-wifi-6/
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/465-h...l#post57380706

HDR AV1 video >> Internet >> future STB with AV1 decoding > decoded HDR video signal >> HDMI >> current HDR TV