HDR Discussion Thread

[Scottishguy]

Originally Posted by Rottweiler30

Er, exactly that's my point.

HDR is revisionism.

It most certainly is not. If the colour timing of a source remains as close to the directors intent, then all rec 2020 does with increased colour bit depth is allow for greater representation of shades of a particular colour.

In terms of dynamic range, I don't think it's possible to add any more points of dynamic range to a source than what already exist.

[Lee A Stewart]

[mrtickleuk]

Originally Posted by Rottweiler30

Mmm a more accurate picture that's good. So what you're saying is, for example, Goodfellas was shot 30 years ago utilising HDR, and now at last thanks to modern technology we can finally see it in all it's original HDR glory?

Bollocks.

That's called a "strawman" argument. Instead of using what he did say, you have rephrased it into something subtly different which he didn't say, and then you've argued against that.

[BluLobsta]

How can you tell how many nits your TV is capable of producing? I had to tweak the hell out of Westworld S2 but it looks really nice now. Dolores looks great under either sparkling rays of sunshine or deep in the tunnels. She is a murderous wench but in her defense she has seen the truth after all.

[Penton-Man]

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[Scottishguy]

Originally Posted by BluLobsta

How can you tell how many nits your TV is capable of producing? I had to tweak the hell out of Westworld S2 but it looks really nice now. Dolores looks great under either sparkling rays of sunshine or deep in the tunnels. She is a murderous wench but in her defense she has seen the truth after all.

By checking the playback info from your player. What do you mean by tweak exactly?

[Scottishguy]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Given y’all’s local online community is Blu-ray.com,
how to participate in Small Business Saturday 2019?
support –
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There's a slight issue that some of us don't live in America

[sapiendut]

Originally Posted by mrtickleuk

That's called a "strawman" argument. Instead of using what he did say, you have rephrased it into something subtly different which he didn't say, and then you've argued against that.

Besides, film’s dynamic range have always been higher in range compared to Bluray’s SDR anyway.

[mrtickleuk]

Originally Posted by sapiendut

Besides, film’s dynamic range have always been higher in range compared to Bluray’s SDR anyway.

Absolutely. And the colour gamut. It's only been since 2016, and learning about WCG, P3, HDR etc that I've understood for the first time in my life why the colours always looked better in the cinema than on TV.

There's no requirement to completely fill all of rec.2020 and 10,000 nits. Having that larger container available for use, and then for the experts to be able to "unlock" a more accurate version from the original film should they choose so to do, is a wonderful thing.

[Scottishguy]

Originally Posted by mrtickleuk

Absolutely. And the colour gamut. It's only been since 2016, and learning about WCG, P3, HDR etc that I've understood for the first time in my life why the colours always looked better in the cinema than on TV.

There's no requirement to completely fill all of rec.2020 and 10,000 nits. Having that larger container available for use, and then for the experts to be able to "unlock" a more accurate version from the original film should they choose so to do, is a wonderful thing.

I believe the colour volume on most TVs limits rec.2020 currently as well.

[BluLobsta]

Originally Posted by Scottishguy

By checking the playback info from your player. What do you mean by tweak exactly?

Ah, ok, thanks. By tweaking I mean just adjusting the UHD settings for my TV. There is a setting called "Full UHD Color" that kept messing things up each time I selected it. I think the app may be sketchy but I have to live with it. I got it figured out now. Trial and error.

[Scottishguy]

Originally Posted by BluLobsta

Ah, ok, thanks. By tweaking I mean just adjusting the UHD settings for my TV. There is a setting called "Full UHD Color" that kept messing things up each time I selected it. I think the app may be sketchy but I have to live with it. I got it figured out now. Trial and error.

You have a Vizio, aye? Might be worth checking out one of the owner's threads.

[LordoftheRings]

Penton, did we miss something ... Today 05:48 AM (Dec. 1st) -> 4,462,941 views.

• https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...ostcount=11391

Another month (November), another 400,000+ views ...

[BluLobsta]

Originally Posted by Scottishguy

You have a Vizio, aye? Might be worth checking out one of the owner's threads.

Sure do. OK, sounds good. Lots of good info and helpful people in the forums for sure.

[Vincent Teoh]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Vincent, don’t be shy in returning, as we’ve also corrected SMPTE Fellows (aka ‘video gurus’), numerous times for speaking above their expertise - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...e#post11223806 (scroll down thru the page)

also, for example -

My original rebuttal post to your welcome opening salvo of two criticisms has somehow been referred to moderator and was never published, probably because I'm a new member here with only 1 (now 2 if this is published) post.

Warmest regards
Vincent

[Penton-Man]

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[youngsyp]

Originally Posted by Scottishguy

I believe the colour volume on most TVs limits rec.2020 currently as well.

And arguably OLED's biggest disadvantage over any other current display technology.

Paul

[Staying Salty]

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...buy he hasn't descended from his mountain yet.

[Eye Candy]

I came across this trippy video today:

Dolby Atmos Test video Kingdom Of Colours 4k ULTRA HD HDR 10BIT [ HD ] - YouTube

[mrtickleuk]

Originally Posted by Eye Candy

I came across this trippy video today:

Dolby Atmos Test video Kingdom Of Colours 4k ULTRA HD HDR 10BIT [ HD ] - YouTube

Pretty to look at I'm sure, but I'm 99% sure it won't have Dolby Atmos audio. It'll be 2-channel stereo, like 99.99999999999% of YouTube videos.