HDR Discussion Thread

[Penton-Man]

For those who may have missed my heads-up last month to register for the live webinar and ask questions at the time, here is the playback -

Dolby and RED Webinar Series - Working in HDR - From Set to Screen (Part 1) - April 30th 2020 - YouTube

also, not mentioned, but something to add to the statements about the LG C9 at the 23:00 timestamp is that that monitor is challenged by auto-dimming

for the Dolby Vision vs. HDR10 crowd, there is a chart comparing both (metadata values, etc.) at the 40:00 timestamp

there are a few questions/answers interposed during the main presentation with the dedicated Q&A beginning in earnest at 1:02:07

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Who (outside of the studio) has one of the best earned collections of Top Gun: Maverick patches?

Inside here - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...i#post17226761

for the inquiring mind who asked in PM, about what that grey structure ^ partially pictured on the right with NZY painted on it is,
it’s one of these - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...n#post17311331

[Penton-Man]

heads-up, another HDR webinar freebie, act quickly….https://mixinglight.com/color-tutori...rms-workflows/

[DisplayCalNoob]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

heads-up, another HDR webinar freebie, act quickly….https://mixinglight.com/color-tutori...rms-workflows/

I registered for this one, looking forward to the breakdown of tone mapping, etc.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by DisplayCalNoob

I registered for this one, looking forward to the breakdown of tone mapping, etc.

I recall you have a history (from early last year) of other well-placed fascination - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...0#post16322217

touched on at 56:10 here -

Dolby and RED Webinar Series - Working in HDR - From Set to Screen (Part 1) - April 30th 2020 - YouTube

[DanBa]

Could you explain why the new Dolby Vision 4.0 metadata are "especially useful for when the consumer owner has a not so great HDR TV"?
Thanks

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by DanBa

Could you explain why the new Dolby Vision 4.0 metadata are "especially useful for when the consumer owner has a not so great HDR TV"?
Thanks

More points of trim adjustment in v4.0, allowing further refinement of the passes that are done to create the 100/600/1000/etc nit metadata of any given content.

[mrtickleuk]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

For those who may have missed my heads-up last month to register for the live webinar and ask questions at the time, here is the playback -

Thanks very much for posting this!

I find it very disengenius for them to say that Dolby Vision is "typically 12bit" - this was repeated over and over - when the reality is that only 4k Blu-ray still supports 12bit, and that's only if the creator goes against Dolby recommendations and uses a FEL. Dolby seems hell-bent on going MEL-only on discs "to improve compatibility". Also, removing support for FEL from Profile 4, and pushing people towards the 10bit-only Profile 5.

On streaming, 12bit is impossible. The entire "direction of travel" is away from 12bit, towards 10bit-only Dolby Vision and this is a great shame. It's just dishonest of them to claim that Dolby Vision is "typically 12bit".

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by frogmort

I always feel like I just had a mild stroke when I check this thread. I also feel like I know just slightly less about HDR every time I poke my head in here too.

could be worse -
https://www.instagram.com/p/B-NlmnlFfSZ/

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by DanBa

Could you explain why the new Dolby Vision 4.0 metadata are "especially useful for when the consumer owner has a not so great HDR TV"?
Thanks

Dan, see G’s reply above

[Penton-Man]

heads-up Agent Kay and others so interested (don’t spend too much time on those fighter pilot memes - https://www.instagram.com/p/B-NlmnlFfSZ/), for coming up live in several hours:

[Penton-Man]

no matter the content –
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...e#post17351439

in the end, it’s always good to remove dem wires - https://sg.style.yahoo.com/flash-gor...203442590.html

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

....SPAAAAAAAAAACE

FORRRRRRRRRRCE -

Space Force | Official Teaser | Netflix - YouTube

[Robert Zohn]

Don't think this has been posted yet, but beginning Wednesday, April 13th the NAB will host this annual TV and Radio Broadcasters convention via webcasting. This is the first time in my 34 consecutive years of attending and speaking at NAB that I participate in the session virtually from my home desktop computer.

Here's the link to the sessions and I am confident many Blu-ray.com members will enjoy many of the very informative and educational sessions. I've signed up for several of the ATSC 3.0, VR, 8K, FHD/HDR, UHD/HDR and filmmaking sessions.

This is a technical trade convention, but this is the first year it's open to the public and all at no cost.

[mrtickleuk]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Don't think this has been posted yet, but beginning Wednesday, April 13th the NAB will host this annual TV and Radio Broadcasters convention via webcasting. This is the first time in my 34 consecutive years of attending and speaking at NAB that I participate in the session virtually from my home desktop computer.

Here's the link to the sessions and I am confident many Blu-ray.com members will enjoy many of the very informative and educational sessions. I've signed up for several of the ATSC 3.0, VR, 8K, FHD/HDR, UHD/HDR and filmmaking sessions.

This is a technical trade convention, but this is the first year it's open to the public and all at no cost.

Thank you so much for posting this! Quite an overwhelming amount of content there!

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Don't think this has been posted yet, but beginning Wednesday, April 13th the NAB will host this annual TV and Radio Broadcasters convention via webcasting. This is the first time in my 34 consecutive years of attending and speaking at NAB that I participate in the session virtually from my home desktop computer.

Here's the link to the sessions and I am confident many Blu-ray.com members will enjoy many of the very informative and educational sessions. I've signed up for several of the ATSC 3.0, VR, 8K, FHD/HDR, UHD/HDR and filmmaking sessions.

This is a technical trade convention, but this is the first year it's open to the public and all at no cost.

No, I don’t think anybody contributed the general sessions link, good idea.
Last week, I did offer a selective heads-up to one session -
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...t#post17612443

also, as the absence of sports due to the current pandemic has been painfully evident for fans, watching professional sports plays a significant role in a lot of people’s entertainment/lives
so, cutting edge experience gained and passed on by Michael and Chris to help others with hopefully more live-linear HDR productions -
https://dir.nabshowexpress.com/8_0/s...cheduleid=1243

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Kris Deering

Not sure why that last picture keeps loading upside down. I hate the internet sometimes.

Are you using an Apple product...iPhone, iPad, Mac?

20200512_221046.jpg

[Penton-Man]

he was inverted
https://www.facebook.com/topgunday/

[PaulGo]

I just watched the NAB Show Express portion on HDR broadcasts. It appears for the foreseeable future HDR live broadcasts will be limited to 1080p. From what was shown at the average viewing distance of nine feet from a 65" TV it is impossible to see 4K resolution however HDR makes a big impact (so 8K in a living room would not be beneficial at all). The reason for not using 4K for live sports is at 4K 60p there is increased motion blur. So broadcasters see no reason for 4K but viewers will benefit from HDR. Ultimately broadcasters may switch to HLG but for compatibility they will use HDR10.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

he was inverted
https://www.facebook.com/topgunday/

Inverted?

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/scree...018&position=5