HDR Discussion Thread

[LordoftheRings]

Penton, I shall see you under better circumstances.
Take good care of your wife, stay safe both.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by winoni71

Hello all, I am in need of a second opinion on something.

How would you rate the HDR to SDR conversion of the following samples?

Original untouched 2160p (HDR)
Down-scaled to 1080p (SDR)

Thank you.

Any HDR down conversion is a degradation, in my opinion.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Penton, I shall see you under better circumstances.
Take good care of your wife, stay safe both.

It may take a few years for us to get back up to BC again - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...s#post15336256 , either for a mountain bike race or simply a relaxing vacation, however, until then, you pick out an eatery popular among locals in Victoria for a leisurely lunch, needn’t be fancy, and we’ll be there to break bread with you ....as we've done with a few members over the years.

Meanwhile, we’ll be watching the Globes virtually this evening - https://www.goldenglobes.com/article...been-announced

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

It may take a few years for us to get back up to BC again - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...s#post15336256 , either for a mountain bike race or simply a relaxing vacation, however, until then, you pick out an eatery popular among locals in Victoria for a leisurely lunch, needn’t be fancy, and we’ll be there to break bread with you ....as we've done with a few members over the years.

Meanwhile, we’ll be watching the Globes virtually this evening - https://www.goldenglobes.com/article...been-announced

Cool, the Globes tonight; we'll see if Mank strikes a chord with the movie critics.

* We'll come to San Diego sometimes; you and your wife deserve our presence during calmer/safer times.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Cool, the Globes tonight; we'll see if Mank strikes a chord with the movie critics.

* We'll come to San Diego sometimes; you and your wife deserve our presence during calmer/safer times.

It’s a deal if you take the well-worth-it short ferry ride from San Diego to our ‘island’ and we’ll happily escort you around the neighborhood before dining out.
As to Mank, I think many cinematographers as well as HDR advocates, are rooting for it given - https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/be...0period%20look.

deep dive into one technique - https://cinefade.com/knowledge/cinem...depth-of-field

[LordoftheRings]

I agree; 'Mank' should be rewarded this evening...HDR cinematography, and more.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

As to Mank, I think many cinematographers as well as HDR advocates, are rooting for it given

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

I agree; 'Mank' should be rewarded this evening...HDR cinematography, and more.

Why would they make a movie on how Pacino pronounced "Man" as Tony Montana?

[LordoftheRings]

Fascinating ...
• https://www.wired.com/story/persever...ifferent-mars/

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Why would they make a movie on how Pacino pronounced "Man" as Tony Montana?

You didn't like it?

[gkolb]

Originally Posted by gkolb

Jan 31 count of viewers/ readers is 8,323,556.

Increased 313,727 over Dec 31. Nice bump again this month, even though CES was virtual. Not much going on with new 4K players (other than the addition of Tascam which has a dedicated thread.) The news about 2021 displays seems to be taking place in the LED and OLED threads in Display Technologies. I miss them being here in the 4K Hardware thread.

The number of Views for this thread as of tonight is 8,518,076 minus the Jan 31 count of 8,323,556 = 194,520 increase. Even though we're 3 days shorter than January, still a marked decline from the Jan increase.

We can't burn the barn doors off every month. I still think having most of the display discussions for specific telly's going on in LCD and OLED sections means fewer eyeballs come here to the HDR Hardware area. OH well, just my pet theory, based on me. Great believer in Synergy.

Still, thanks to everyone, members and visitors for looking in on some of the best discussion on HDR and other tech (and sometimes not so tech) matters. Cheers!

[LordoftheRings]

Mank, zero Golden Globe. It's ok, there are more/better movie critic rewards to come ...

Soul, best original score.
▪https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/28/gold...d-winners.html

Extra: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/01/m...arts&smtyp=cur

[LordoftheRings]

This one's for you Penton

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEzb...ature=youtu.be

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by gkolb

display discussions

Also on the program for the upcoming Hollywood Professional Association Tech Retreat is a presentation by

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

our friend on the keyboards - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjsKgtszQo0#t=4m49s

“Today’s televisions are as far removed from your father’s models as a Tesla is from a Model A. They’re larger and cheaper than ever, with built-in streaming capabilities and 4K and 8K resolution. More importantly, the display type is swinging back to emissive from transmissive, and limitations on peak luminance and color gamut reproduction are being tossed aside. And in the end, one winner will emerge…”

So, who might that winner turn out to be?

Originally Posted by gkolb

Still, thanks to everyone, members and visitors for looking in on some of the best discussion on HDR and other tech (and sometimes not so tech) matters. Cheers!

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Mank, zero Golden Globe. It's ok,

for on the bright side, I liked Borat Subsequent Moviefilm, the winner for the comedy category

[LordoftheRings]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbYx...ature=youtu.be

[LordoftheRings]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL-g...ature=youtu.be

• https://news.knowledia.com/US/en/art...f19e3514d78110

• https://www.techradar.com/news/micro-led-tv

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by gkolb

The number of Views for this thread as of tonight is 8,518,076 minus the Jan 31 count of 8,323,556 = 194,520 increase.....

Still, thanks to everyone, members and visitors for looking in on some of the best discussion on HDR and other tech (and sometimes not so tech) matters. Cheers!

despite the interesting and often amazing historical significance of how these various Italian dishes (including the best Balsamic vinegar in the world) originated and evolved, I’ve learned not to watch this fabulous CNN series hosted by Stanley - https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001804/ , when one is hungry, e.g. -
https://www.cnn.com/videos/foodanddr...ing-for-italy/

meanwhile, for the more technologically minded - on the program for the upcoming Hollywood Professional Association Tech Retreat in mid-March, an appetizer -

“HDR/WCG technologies have added increased complexity in production workflows, starting with camera setup all the way to post production. For post production, HDR workflows create unique challenges: how do I transfer HDR artistic intent? How can I ensure that my HDR content fits within the end user’s HDR display capabilities? We will consider a new set of HDR measurements that relate to the picture screen area, that aim to help answer these questions. For camera setup, each camera manufacturer has come up with their own way to compress and represent HDR content, leading to difficulties in both camera setup and in visualizing changes in light level (due to the non-linearity in the camera gammas). The talk will introduce a new type of waveform trace called as the “stop” waveform that aims to address these challenges.”

Presented by:
Lakshmanan Gopishankar, Telestream

[Penton-Man]

whereas, if one is not interested in such, some would say, techno mumbo-jumbo ^, practical advice for JL-

Originally Posted by Waboman

I heard a rumor there's a new super hero movie out. Justice League, I believe they're calling it. You hear of it?

engage viewing with an empty bladder if the pause button on your remote doesn’t work well - https://help.hbomax.com/Answer/Detail/2975

[Penton-Man]

the recordings of the colorist mixer presentations are now available here ->
https://icolorist.com/watch-recordin...st-mixer-2020/
notable to our neck of the woods -

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

^ includes a bit on the 6 vector hue/saturation of Dolby Vision 4.0 and how it applies to 2020 and 2021 TVs and details some results of this survey - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...y#post18637659

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

^ elaborates on how higher nit displays expand PQ code value coverage and increase perceived colorfulness of content as compared to 1000 nit displays and the volumetric limitation of WOLED displays

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

and increase perceived colorfulness of content as compared to 1000 nit displays

vis-à-vis the Hunt effect which plays a role in the appearance of the end resultant colored imagery as seen by the end user