Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[tigertron]

Originally Posted by wbreadfan

I'm worried my set might be faulty, I watched ROTS last night and many scenes had vertical white lines in them.

Watching ROTJ and am having the same problem, absolutely gutted!!

I have never had this problem with any blu rays before, and I tested both discs with two different players and tvs. Anyone any ideas what might be the problem?

I noticed it in one scene where Mace Windu confronts Sidious.

[The Apocalypse]

I still don't understand why this set never got special packaging. I mean, the "Limited Edition" featured a mass produced film cell, and that's it. We should've had more, and the studios would've obviously made lots of money out of it.

[wbreadfan]

Originally Posted by tigertron

I noticed it in one scene where Mace Windu confronts Sidious.

On mine its in a few other scenes in ROTS, but ROTJ is far worse, they are there from the scene of the Rebel Briefing all the way up to them landing on the moon of Endor....they are really distracting, it seems that not that many other people can see them, so I don't know if its the set or what..

[tigertron]

the only thing I really noticed in ROTS were the grain/noise spikes, particularly in the background when Anakin is talking to Padmé about his nightmares at the beginning. If you look at towards the right at the city background you'll see it. Its much worse if you have edge enhancement on, with it turned off its less noticeable though.

[bttfiii]

Originally Posted by EclipseSSD

I still don't understand why this set never got special packaging. I mean, the "Limited Edition" featured a mass produced film cell, and that's it. We should've had more, and the studios would've obviously made lots of money out of it.

I think they make more money this way. Everyone would have purchased this regular set. When the special edition comes out, no doubt,a good number will double dip

[The Apocalypse]

I would've paid for a set akin to the BTTF or JP tins or something. Plus it would've given people choice, they wouldn't have to buy the fancy looking set if they didn't want to, just stick with the standard, and let people who wanted to buy the others do so.

[mrpants]

Strange question but does anyone know the weight of a sealed boxset of the complete saga? I plan to send mine back as it's damaged a little and want to know the cost.

[IndyMLVC]

When are they coming out with an Amaray version

[Blu-Ray Winstone]

When I ordered the JP box. I thought about the Star Wars at £35. I'm the same for not buying it so far, it looks awful. naff changes and what poor artwork (who the hell chose that?)

Even at £35 I didn't. If it were a tenner I'd buy for the extras.

DVD artwork and picture so much better, especially ESB. Saw the Bespin part where Chewie, Leia etc are running from Stormtroopers. Wow, utter sh***. Looked like a cardboard painted screen for background - no doubt it was, but it always looked so real, even on VHS. Reminded me on many low budget straight to DVD movies or if you've ever seen A Sound of Thunder.

Shocking considering the Tech and Money they have on tap.

Looking forward to a much better release in a decent box/tin with something collectable about it and classic star wars artwork.

[adamhopelies]

Originally Posted by Blu-Ray Winstone

DVD artwork and picture so much better, especially ESB. Saw the Bespin part where Chewie, Leia etc are running from Stormtroopers. Wow, utter sh***. Looked like a cardboard painted screen for background - no doubt it was, but it always looked so real, even on VHS. Reminded me on many low budget straight to DVD movies or if you've ever seen A Sound of Thunder.

Shocking considering the Tech and Money they have on tap.

Are you kidding? ESB looks great. You honestly believe the DVD looked better?

[Blu-Ray Winstone]

Originally Posted by adamhopelies

Are you kidding? ESB looks great. You honestly believe the DVD looked better?

Well, maybe not better. I have a decent upscaling player and IMO the DVDs look awesome, compared to say VHS or TV - as you'd expect.

I don't see the Blu's as such an uplift from those DVD's (on an upscaler) compared to the jump DVD looked when they were released. Not for £70 or even £35

Like I said, with what is available to Lucas etc, the fanbase and the fact that lower budget movies from that era with less money thrown at them, look 10 times better. I expected MUCH more. And then there is the box... nothing special, not even a choice to buy a tin set or something limited etc. Bland and Ugly

[adamhopelies]

Originally Posted by Blu-Ray Winstone

Well, maybe not better. I have a decent upscaling player and IMO the DVDs look awesome, compared to say VHS or TV - as you'd expect.

I don't see the Blu's as such an uplift from those DVD's (on an upscaler) compared to the jump DVD looked when they were released. Not for £70 or even £35

Like I said, with what is available to Lucas etc, the fanbase and the fact that lower budget movies from that era with less money thrown at them, look 10 times better. I expected MUCH more. And then there is the box... nothing special, not even a choice to buy a tin set or something limited etc. Bland and Ugly

It sounds to me like you're bitter about the packaging and haven't actually seen the Blu-rays.

[Blu-Ray Winstone]

Seen them playing in HMV - Sony 42" played through PS3

They now play Lion King on one screen and something else on another, they look really good.

So I haven't watched them from start to finish, but I pop into HMV while I wait for the train home - I've seen a lot of ANH, ESB and ROTJ - they don't look that amazing, £70.

Not sure if bitter is correct, disappointed is better.

Really though, how long have fans been waiting for these? 4 - 5 years for Blu Ray .... Is it an anti climax or are you as blown away by the quality and the packaging as you had expected?

I hoped for a Tin or something that was managed for Back to the Future, Jurassic Park .. This is Star Wars we're talking about. I had hoped for artwork like all the classic releases, but maybe one which covers all six movies. I've seen a few 'custom' ones.

Are you blown away... If a special limited tin were released as I've suggested which would you have bought ?

[DaveSimonH]

The video quality is about on par for what I would have expected, my only disappointment is them not including the theatricals, but again that was to be expected with Lucas involved.

[adamhopelies]

Originally Posted by Blu-Ray Winstone

Seen them playing in HMV - Sony 42" played through PS3

They now play Lion King on one screen and something else on another, they look really good.

So I haven't watched them from start to finish, but I pop into HMV while I wait for the train home - I've seen a lot of ANH, ESB and ROTJ - they don't look that amazing, £70.

Not sure if bitter is correct, disappointed is better.

Really though, how long have fans been waiting for these? 4 - 5 years for Blu Ray .... Is it an anti climax or are you as blown away by the quality and the packaging as you had expected?

I hoped for a Tin or something that was managed for Back to the Future, Jurassic Park .. This is Star Wars we're talking about. I had hoped for artwork like all the classic releases, but maybe one which covers all six movies. I've seen a few 'custom' ones.

Are you blown away... If a special limited tin were released as I've suggested which would you have bought ?

Nope, I don't like dramatic packaging. I care about the film, not the box it comes in. It's clear from what you're writing that the packaging is the biggest problem for you.

Judging the PQ of a film on HMV's promo set up really isn't any measure. Those TV's are never calibrated, and the space itself is hardly similar to home viewing conditions. Anyway, this is a pointless conversation, reviews across the board for Empire were very positive. Here's a bit from this sites own review.

"the 1080p/AVC-encoded transfers of the three "classic" Star Wars films are fairly consistent with one another and, in a word, amazing. If you need a number, I'm comfortable giving 4.5's across the board for the integrity and simple gorgeousness of these three transfers. If you grew up watching these films on VHS you're going to be blown away. I don't say that lightly."


I'd like to see a Blu-ray release that "look 10 times better" to quote yourself.

[chip75]

Originally Posted by DaveSimonH

The video quality is about on par for what I would have expected, my only disappointment is them not including the theatricals, but again that was to be expected with Lucas involved.

I've yet to pick the set up but before their launch I was expecting Revenge of the Sith to look perfect (as good as anything we've had on Blu), Clones to look good but a bit soft. With The Phantom Menace I was expecting a hybrid of sorts I was expecting a lot of grain for the film elements with pin-sharp CGI (we ended up of a smooth DNR'd job on par with Terminator 2).

I don't know what I was expecting with the original three films, I was hoping they'd be pretty authentic but the botch job that was the DVD's gave me doubt. They really should have gone back to the film elements and started over but alas it was not to be. I don't think we'll ever see the theatricals on BD unless the revised editions get an overhaul as well.

I'm keeping an eye out for a decent price for the Saga but the problems the some members are reporting are a bit worrying. Lucas has form for ignoring the problems with home releases as he's loathe to admit any mistakes (at least in public anyway).

[Blu-Ray Winstone]

Originally Posted by adamhopelies

Nope, I don't like dramatic packaging. I care about the film, not the box it comes in. It's clear from what you're writing that the packaging is the biggest problem for you.

Judging the PQ of a film on HMV's promo set up really isn't any measure. Those TV's are never calibrated, and the space itself is hardly similar to home viewing conditions. Anyway, this is a pointless conversation, reviews across the board for Empire were very positive. Here's a bit from this sites own review.

"the 1080p/AVC-encoded transfers of the three "classic" Star Wars films are fairly consistent with one another and, in a word, amazing. If you need a number, I'm comfortable giving 4.5's across the board for the integrity and simple gorgeousness of these three transfers. If you grew up watching these films on VHS you're going to be blown away. I don't say that lightly."


I'd like to see a Blu-ray release that "look 10 times better" to quote yourself.

Out of 10?

A good example is Phenomena, a low budget mid 80's horror. PQ is awesome looks like it was made this year. Its an Arrow release, not having a budget anywhere near what Lucas has... They have included Double sided fold out poster
World Exclusive booklet with brand new writing.

Look at the care and attention paid to Dawn of the Dead, also Arrow.

For somehting older, with maybe half the budget..... James Bond. Apprently Dr. No is a 'show piece' for Blu Ray. I haven't heard anyone say " You want convincing to upgrade DVD to Blu, watch Star Wars." "£70 is a good price for what you get"

Look at Jurassic Park, the Tin, the set with the Figure, the release in Germany in a wooden box. Look at what you get included.

I'm glad you are happy with your SW box set. For me, I'm not prepared to pay £70 for it. I had the option to buy it at £35 online yesterday, no thanks. IMO It is not good enough.

[Buddy Ackerman]

Originally Posted by Blu-Ray Winstone

Out of 10?

Well, not to teach you how to do maths but if it's 4.5 out of 5 then double that and you get 9/10!

[adamhopelies]

Originally Posted by Blu-Ray Winstone

Out of 10?

Out of five.

Originally Posted by Blu-Ray Winstone

A good example is Phenomena, a low budget mid 80's horror. PQ is awesome looks like it was made this year.

It's coated in DNR. It's been ripped apart on these forums.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/united-kin...sub-eng-5.html

Originally Posted by Blu-Ray Winstone

Its an Arrow release, not having a budget anywhere near what Lucas has... They have included Double sided fold out poster
World Exclusive booklet with brand new writing.

Arrow always put together nice packages, but I'd rather the transfer of the film was the priority.

Originally Posted by Blu-Ray Winstone

Look at Jurassic Park, the Tin, the set with the Figure, the release in Germany in a wooden box. Look at what you get included.

Who cares? The film matters, not some tat lumped in to inflate the price.

Originally Posted by Blu-Ray Winstone

I'm glad you are happy with your SW box set. For me, I'm not prepared to pay £70 for it. I had the option to buy it at £35 online yesterday, no thanks. IMO It is not good enough.

Thats fair enough, but please don't use some fallacy that the PQ of the OT is flawed when its clear that the thing stopping you from investing is the packaging.

[Blu-Ray Winstone]

Thats fair enough, but please don't use some fallacy that the PQ of the OT is flawed when its clear that the thing stopping you from investing is the packaging.[/QUOTE]

No its not? The whole package for £70 is not worth it. It is not the great Star Wars Blu release I was expecting.

Maybe I have higher standards.