HDR Discussion Thread

[LordoftheRings]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UPt...ature=youtu.be

[LordoftheRings]

Penton, are you using a calibrated display?
If yes how often are you recalibrating it?
And last, flat panel, front projector or both?

Happy Holiday Season to you and to all your family/friends.

[DanBa]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UPt...ature=youtu.be

I think HDMI 2.1 TV will be announced at CES 2018:

. All features in HDMI 2.1 are optional.



. According to Jeff Park, Technical Director of HDMI LA, a HDMI 2.0 => HDMI 2.1 firmware upgrade is possible if the HDMI chipset was designed to be upgradable.
https://cepro.ehmedia.co/webinar-confirmation11710499


Marantz can certify the available Marantz SR7012 for HDMI 2.1 eARC when the HDMI 2.1 Compliance Test Specification will be finalized.
"eARC (Enhanced Audio Return Channel) supports the transmission of 3D audio from your TV apps with a single HDMI connection for the simplest setup. This feature will be enabled via a future firmware update."
http://us.marantz.com/us/Products/Pa...oductId=SR7012

HDMI 2.1 eARC and HDMI 2.1 transmission of dynamic metadata should be features of high-end 2018 TV.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by ray0414

Is a new HDR beast on the way?

Vincent Teoh posted this today, when repeating the news that the Dolby Vision update by Sony is coming in January, to the X1E tvs as well as this "beast". He did not divulge what tv this beast was.

Heh, it'll only be a stunner until they do a TV shootout and it'll still finish behind OLED in every department.

[mrtickleuk]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Paul, things could be worse. It’s good you travel in a mature crowd; otherwise, it can get medieval out there –

Wow, I hate it when that happens! (I mean, of course, people filming in portrait mode on their phones! Just stop doing it!)

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

[Show spoiler]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UPt...ature=youtu.be

Are you guys posting porno videos on this thread now? Is that SFW?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Penton, are you using a calibrated display?
If yes how often are you recalibrating it?
And last, flat panel, front projector or both?

Happy Holiday Season to you and to all your family/friends.

Displays at main home (LCD and OLED) and down in San Diego were calibrated once and aren’t normally recalibrated. I don’t care if they drift a bit with time as I get something else new well before it becomes a problem. No longer have a front projector.

Happy Holidays to you and yours too.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by mrtickleuk

Wow, I hate it when that happens! (I mean, of course, people filming in portrait mode on their phones! Just stop doing it!)

We saw it here - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...e#post12862040 …just down the street from a university medical center.

In the back of my mind I figured if for any reason there was moviegoer hostility like in Burbank and it further degenerated into physical violence requiring sutures, staples and such…you can’t beat quick treatment from your neighbor who works down the street there in the ER.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I really am glad it's not just me who notices these things.

Kayla is more visually astute than the both of us combined. I’ll bet she would have identified the 6 frame sequence of black screen at ~ the 10 min. mark of the movie.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Saw The Last Jedi in the same theater I saw The Force Awakens and was disappointed the space scenes of the new film (starting at the main title) didn't have the same rich black level of TFA - not to mention the use of the Atmos overheads seemed to be restrained and limited to certain effects, like Force users communicating to each other over telepathically.

It’s good to hear an honest, knowledgeable opinion from an outspoken Dolby supporter as yourself. On thee other hand, this - https://twitter.com/DolbyCinema/stat...45056657035265

Reminds me soooo much of this (start at 32 sec. timestamp for audience reactions to another movie) - http://abc.go.com/shows/jimmy-kimmel...ed/VDKA4135030

[Penton-Man]

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...s#post14485328

^ Not just consumer electronics TVs but, professional grading and reference 2000 nits capable monitors [from more than one manufacturer (based on Panasonic’s dual modulation architecture)] likely will make more noise next year.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Are you guys posting porno videos on this thread now? Is that SFW?

No worry, it is safe.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by DanBa

I think HDMI 2.1 TV will be announced at CES 2018:

. All features in HDMI 2.1 are optional.



. According to Jeff Park, Technical Director of HDMI LA, a HDMI 2.0 => HDMI 2.1 firmware upgrade is possible if the HDMI chipset was designed to be upgradable.
https://cepro.ehmedia.co/webinar-confirmation11710499


Marantz can certify the available Marantz SR7012 for HDMI 2.1 eARC when the HDMI 2.1 Compliance Test Specification will be finalized.
"eARC (Enhanced Audio Return Channel) supports the transmission of 3D audio from your TV apps with a single HDMI connection for the simplest setup. This feature will be enabled via a future firmware update."
http://us.marantz.com/us/Products/Pa...oductId=SR7012

HDMI 2.1 eARC and HDMI 2.1 transmission of dynamic metadata should be features of high-end 2018 TV.

Yes Mr. Dan, I've read it the other day on the news network channel.

Our HDR world is expanding by the minute.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Heh, it'll only be a stunner until they do a TV shootout and it'll still finish behind OLED in every department.

Robert is thee man.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Displays at main home (LCD and OLED) and down in San Diego were calibrated once and aren’t normally recalibrated. I don’t care if they drift a bit with time as I get something else new well before it becomes a problem. No longer have a front projector.

Happy Holidays to you and yours too.

Thank you Mr. Penton Man.

[DanBa]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Yes Mr. Dan, I've read it the other day on the news network channel.

Our HDR world is expanding by the minute.

According to the CEO & President at HDMI LA, all features in HDMI 2.1 are optional.

For example, TV makers can fully claim their only dynamic metadata transmission featured TV compliant HDMI 2.1, once successfully passed the future HDMI 2.1 dynamic metadata transmission compliance test. They should mention they support the HDMI 2.1 dynamic metadata transmission feature on their marketing sheets.

The HDMI 2.1 compliance is not based on the HDMI chipset, a new full-featured HDMI 2.1 chipset or an upgraded chipset. It is only based on the HDMI 2.1 compliance tests.

The absence of a full-featured HDMI 2.1 chipset should not become an excuse for not upgrading the current HDR TV to be compliant with the HDMI 2.1 dynamic metadata transmission in 2018. Obviously, these current TV should also be upgraded to support SMPTE ST 2094 Dolby Vision (to be interoperable with some future ATSC 3.0 STB), Technicolor HDR (aka SL-HDR1) and HDR10+ (to be interoperable with future external HDR10+ media players).

[BrownianMotion]

So now I've got a new version of the Vimeo app that was just released today on my 2016 Samsung TV. HDR works on it, but only for these two videos:

https://vimeo.com/247719654

https://vimeo.com/247720006

All other videos on the channel, which are also tagged as HDR, do not playback in HDR, and neither do any other HDR videos on any other channels.

Strange.

[PeterTHX]

From another forum:

Supposedly Amazon has updated all their HDR offerings to HDR10+ and in the process messed up the current gradings. It was the TCL users reporting elevated blacks first right after the new FW update but sounds like even the OLEDs are affected along with the DV gradings. Amazon should be made aware of this so they fix it for you guys... i know TCL users are in an uproar about it.

Can just imagine the excuses from the anti-DV troll

"TOTALLY backwards compatible!!!!"

[BrownianMotion]

^ Additionally, Samsung really messed this one up by only enabling the format on their new 2017 displays for now, which haven't sold well at all. So very few people on the planet actually have access to it.

Luckily, I haven't seen any negative effects on my display (either the LG or the 2016 Samsung) as a result of Amazon's conversion.

Poor start all around, though.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

From another forum:






Can just imagine the excuses from the anti-DV troll

"TOTALLY backwards compatible!!!!"

Perhaps it's best that he wasn't here to witness this, he'd just write it off as pro-DV fanboys spreading propaganda.