HDR Discussion Thread - Page 573 - Blu-ray Forum

FilmFreakosaurus · 11-14-2019, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PeterTHX

A few seconds of changes here and there over hours of the material looking better than it ever has. Talk about throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

A few seconds, dude? Really. They changed a heck of a lot more than a few seconds.

And the changes they did make were mostly piss poor.

LordoftheRings · 11-15-2019, 01:40 AM

It doesn't really matter much because we knew it and two you are going to buy it again on BR 4K HDR anyway.
_____

I think it's time to spend more time in the favorite actresses threads ...

@Penton: This was my favorite thread of all threads. Thank you for all the goods you brought.
You are bigger than real life; that makes our world a much more relax and fun place to live.
Everything is related to HDR Cinema, everything...Maverick, Tom, Chuck, Jerry, 8K cameras, HFR, 3D, OLED, Dolby Vision, ...all.

Waboman · 11-16-2019, 05:02 AM

Where'd this thread disappear to?

Penton-Man · 11-16-2019, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

@Penton: This was my favorite thread of all threads. Thank you for all the goods you brought.
You are bigger than real life; that makes our world a much more relax and fun place to live.
Everything is related to HDR Cinema, everything...Maverick, Tom, Chuck, Jerry, 8K cameras, HFR, 3D, OLED, Dolby Vision, ...all.

you're welcome

Penton-Man · 11-16-2019, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Waboman

Where'd this thread disappear to?

took a detour to see what calibrators have to do with knowledgeable HDR development and refinement – https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...&postcount=163

LordoftheRings · 11-16-2019, 07:59 PM

¤ https://www.live-production.tv/news/...dates-aja.html

LordoftheRings · 11-16-2019, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...&postcount=163

TY

* The viewership is still phenomenal right here Penton; we need more fun content to satisfy all the souls...HDR Maverick & all.

...Including HDR poles.

LordoftheRings · 11-16-2019, 08:19 PM

HDR Disney Plus streaming ... I was already all signed up in ...
• https://www.t3.com/feature/disney-pl...ox-apps-nov-15

• https://www.techradar.com/news/disne...movies-sign-up

Penton-Man · 11-17-2019, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Everything is related to HDR Cinema, everything...Maverick, Tom, Chuck, Jerry, 8K cameras, HFR, 3D, OLED, Dolby Vision, ...all.

Indeed, e.g.

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Claudio (DP for Top Gun: Maverick), Daryn and Vanja on HDR, 8K and other things….
https://postperspective.com/production-roundtable/

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Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

TY
* The viewership is still phenomenal right here Penton; we need more fun content to satisfy all the souls...HDR

Here -

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Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Maverick & all.

...

I'm still hoping for a Super Bowl LIV 2020 Top Gun: Maverick tie-in to bring awareness to even more appreciative millions supplementing what the trailer did

LordoftheRings · 11-17-2019, 02:09 AM

Same here Penton, same here...I love the highly technical information you shared here, and the best friendly thread of the Internet with real people who appreciate and are fun living with like in real HDR life. When we visit each other my family and I and our friends we are always relax and on topic...a beautiful life of lovely contrasting (HDR) people.

Anyway, lets get super technical for the sake of the top scientists reviewing this HDR discussion thread....

I would love to put a nice music video but I just won't...to please the most hardcore movie critics.

Have a great weekend Penton.

Penton-Man · 11-17-2019, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Same here Penton, same here...I love the highly technical information you shared here, and the best friendly thread of the Internet with real people who appreciate and are fun living with like in real HDR life. When we visit each other my family and I and our friends we are always relax and on topic...a beautiful life of lovely contrasting (HDR) people.

Anyway, lets get super technical for the sake of the top scientists reviewing this HDR discussion thread....

From ColorFront, whata you do Bill?

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Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Have a great weekend Penton.

same to you

for me, morning ride, then hitting the beach

Penton-Man · 11-17-2019, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

I would love to put a nice music video but I just won't...to please the most hardcore movie critics.

screw ‘em -

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

LordoftheRings · 11-17-2019, 01:08 PM

But but but Penton, you are not allowed to do that...it's against the rules...it's not on topic.
People are watching...two or three thousand people...the most hardcore Blu-ray 4K HDR critics of them all.
They are making sure nobody gets away with off-topic material. Humor and regular life is not an option, you have to go with the rules man. This is serious Penton, the police is watching.

The CIA and the FBI are on a mission from god.
Remember that line from the Blues Brothers ...
I won't put the clip in fear that somebody might feel offended.

I think I go watch the actresses appreciation threads now ...

DanBa · 11-17-2019, 02:22 PM

Latest Multi-HDR table:

. Changed "Mura correction factory calibration" to "Mura / defect correction" in order to avoid confusion with new Display Calibration column

. Added new column "Calibration"

HDR TV can provide high quality images with more contrast and color.
These HDR images available to the end user should match the director’s intent at the grading stage.
"Calibration is based on matching industry video standards that define how an image should look on any given screen when accurately matched to the given standard.
All displays drift over time, and ageing causes a loss of brightness and gamut that is not just drift related. These changes can happen a lot quicker than expected, and regular recalibration is the only way to maintain display accuracy.
Calibration is a necessity, not an option."
https://www.lightillusion.com/tech_info.html

1: External calibration software running on a laptop
2: External pattern generator
3: External colorimeter

http://www.portrait.com/calman-calibration-software/

=> Internal pattern generator
The internal pattern generator iTPG "reduces the barrier to entry by at least $1,500.
The iTPG has the potential to result in increased accuracy over an external TPG for the following reasons:
. It operates at 10-bit precision, with CalMAN able to make full use of this precision
. It operates in RGB space, and is therefore not subject to the potential errors from RGB to YCbCr conversions such as rounding errors and / or incorrect matrix coefficients. "
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/139-d...l#post57417778

=> Internal 3D LUT with direct access
It allows to adjust the whole of the color volume.
https://referencehometheater.com/201...t-is-a-3d-lut/
https://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/lg-p...1801074534.htm

=> Internal colorimeter
It should reduce the barrier to entry: lower price with higher volume.
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/465-h...l#post58791536

=> Internal calibration software when TV’s processor is as powerful as current laptop’s processor

Penton-Man · 11-17-2019, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DanBa

All displays drift over time, and ageing causes a loss of brightness and gamut that is not just drift related. These changes can happen a lot quicker than expected, and regular recalibration is the only way to maintain display accuracy.

while they’re ^ there -> https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...t#post13823304

some of us are a tad north of here - https://hoteldel.com/live-webcam/

Waboman · 11-17-2019, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

while they’re ^ there -> https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...t#post13823304

some of us are a tad north of here - https://hoteldel.com/live-webcam/

[Show spoiler]

Looks like the PM doing quality bang-a-bonk.

Penton-Man · 11-18-2019, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Waboman

Looks like the PM doing quality bang-a-bonk.

perhaps thee only other place I’d rather been -
https://www.travelandleisure.com/tra...ine-by-mistake

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Originally Posted by Waboman

quality

follow-up to Camerimage 2019 post….savvy cinematographers like Claudio M. and Daryn O. have been doing this -> https://variety.com/2019/film/global...ix-1203407091/

already, for years, as explained -
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...e#post12135751

Penton-Man · 11-18-2019, 11:00 PM

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...w#post15146185
for those who couldn’t make it to the event at the ^ Dolby screening room in Hollywood last year, as pictured

that and more from Eric while at IBC 2019 -
https://vimeo.com/373412274#t=6m14s

Staying Salty · 11-19-2019, 02:41 AM

mouse.jpg

PeterTHX · 11-19-2019, 02:58 AM

It's not fake HDR.

11-15-2019, 01:40 AM	#11442
LordoftheRings Special Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Portishead ♫	It doesn't really matter much because we knew it and two you are going to buy it again on BR 4K HDR anyway. _____ I think it's time to spend more time in the favorite actresses threads ... @Penton: This was my favorite thread of all threads. Thank you for all the goods you brought. You are bigger than real life; that makes our world a much more relax and fun place to live. Everything is related to HDR Cinema, everything...Maverick, Tom, Chuck, Jerry, 8K cameras, HFR, 3D, OLED, Dolby Vision, ...all. Last edited by LordoftheRings; 11-16-2019 at 06:00 PM.

11-17-2019, 02:09 AM	#11450
LordoftheRings Special Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Portishead ♫	Same here Penton, same here...I love the highly technical information you shared here, and the best friendly thread of the Internet with real people who appreciate and are fun living with like in real HDR life. When we visit each other my family and I and our friends we are always relax and on topic...a beautiful life of lovely contrasting (HDR) people. Anyway, lets get super technical for the sake of the top scientists reviewing this HDR discussion thread.... I would love to put a nice music video but I just won't...to please the most hardcore movie critics. Have a great weekend Penton. Last edited by LordoftheRings; 11-17-2019 at 01:00 PM. Reason: Typo

11-17-2019, 01:08 PM	#11453
LordoftheRings Special Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Portishead ♫	But but but Penton, you are not allowed to do that...it's against the rules...it's not on topic. People are watching...two or three thousand people...the most hardcore Blu-ray 4K HDR critics of them all. They are making sure nobody gets away with off-topic material. Humor and regular life is not an option, you have to go with the rules man. This is serious Penton, the police is watching. The CIA and the FBI are on a mission from god. Remember that line from the Blues Brothers ... I won't put the clip in fear that somebody might feel offended. I think I go watch the actresses appreciation threads now ... Last edited by LordoftheRings; 11-17-2019 at 10:21 PM. Reason: typo

11-17-2019, 02:22 PM	#11454
DanBa Senior Member Member since:Sep 2010	Multi-HDR Latest Multi-HDR table: . Changed "Mura correction factory calibration" to "Mura / defect correction" in order to avoid confusion with new Display Calibration column . Added new column "Calibration" HDR TV can provide high quality images with more contrast and color. These HDR images available to the end user should match the director’s intent at the grading stage. "Calibration is based on matching industry video standards that define how an image should look on any given screen when accurately matched to the given standard. All displays drift over time, and ageing causes a loss of brightness and gamut that is not just drift related. These changes can happen a lot quicker than expected, and regular recalibration is the only way to maintain display accuracy. Calibration is a necessity, not an option." https://www.lightillusion.com/tech_info.html 1: External calibration software running on a laptop 2: External pattern generator 3: External colorimeter http://www.portrait.com/calman-calibration-software/ => Internal pattern generator The internal pattern generator iTPG "reduces the barrier to entry by at least $1,500. The iTPG has the potential to result in increased accuracy over an external TPG for the following reasons: . It operates at 10-bit precision, with CalMAN able to make full use of this precision . It operates in RGB space, and is therefore not subject to the potential errors from RGB to YCbCr conversions such as rounding errors and / or incorrect matrix coefficients. " https://www.avsforum.com/forum/139-d...l#post57417778 => Internal 3D LUT with direct access It allows to adjust the whole of the color volume. https://referencehometheater.com/201...t-is-a-3d-lut/ https://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/lg-p...1801074534.htm => Internal colorimeter It should reduce the barrier to entry: lower price with higher volume. https://www.avsforum.com/forum/465-h...l#post58791536 => Internal calibration software when TV’s processor is as powerful as current laptop’s processor

11-16-2019, 05:02 AM	#11443
Waboman Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Dec 2009 Location:In a van down by the river 4K collection:197 Blu-ray collection:500 Trading Score:3	Where'd this thread disappear to?

11-16-2019, 07:59 PM	#11446
LordoftheRings Special Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Portishead ♫	¤ https://www.live-production.tv/news/...dates-aja.html

11-16-2019, 08:19 PM	#11448
LordoftheRings Special Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Portishead ♫	HDR Disney Plus streaming ... I was already all signed up in ... • https://www.t3.com/feature/disney-pl...ox-apps-nov-15 • https://www.techradar.com/news/disne...movies-sign-up

11-18-2019, 11:00 PM	#11458
Penton-Man Retired Hollywood Insider Member since:Apr 2007	https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...w#post15146185 for those who couldn’t make it to the event at the ^ Dolby screening room in Hollywood last year, as pictured that and more from Eric while at IBC 2019 - https://vimeo.com/373412274#t=6m14s

11-19-2019, 02:58 AM	#11460
PeterTHX Banned Top contributor Member since:Sep 2006 Blu-ray collection:563 Trading Score:14	It's not fake HDR.

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