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Old 07-14-2020, 03:20 PM   #11441
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A good way to also fight this virus without a vaccine is to invent a in-home testing device. That way, everyone can buy one and test themselves on a regular basis. That way, everyone will know if they have it or not and can quarantine themselves if necessary. Just a thought...
An interesting idea, but I don't think it would work. In my opinion, the people who are currently wearing masks would take positive results seriously and do what they could to prevent spreading. The people who are not currently wearing masks would not take positive results seriously (citing any number of excuses) and then just go about their business as usual without regard for the safety of others.
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What's happening with Cali?
for one part of Cali (Woodland Hills) scroll to 1:20 timestamp

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Old 07-14-2020, 03:30 PM   #11443
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I like to get viewpoints from other experts as well.
https://www.vox.com/2020/7/12/213216...-herd-immunity
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Old 07-14-2020, 03:41 PM   #11444
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This could’ve been avoided.
You could say that about...literally everything...when it comes to this virus.

That could be the tagline.

"Covid-19...

...this could have been avoided."
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Old 07-14-2020, 04:05 PM   #11445
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What happened?
Same as is happening down south....weather is nice, people want to be out, Covid fatigue etc.

Could also be from US tourists 'on their way to Alaska'....who knows.
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Old 07-14-2020, 04:07 PM   #11446
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I only said that because some of the Podcasts I listen to are based out in Cali and when this all started, they seemed pretty locked down. Thanks for the answer!
I don't want to misinform or mislead in this thread, just offering an anecdotal POV. We had a "Safer at home" order, but it never felt like a strict lockdown. Most media company offices went remote practically overnight, so it makes sense podcasters would feel a bigger impact, same with YouTubers and other producers.
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Old 07-14-2020, 04:16 PM   #11447
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What's happening with Cali? Did they start opening up? I thought they were one of the more strict states out of the gate
We did, but it's been pretty loose lately. Things are starting to close up again. I went to Costco on Sunday and it was packed. No school distancing whatsoever. People were playing bumper carts.

Either way, it looks like most school districts are going distance learning until January at the earliest. Districts were initially going to force teachers back in with little to no safety precautions, but thankfully all the teachers pushed back with their unions. With a teacher shortage, there isn't much the distracts can do.
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Old 07-14-2020, 04:19 PM   #11448
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In Marin we would be doing just fine, except for a couple of problem areas. The Canal area, which is mostly Hispanic and high density, is a hot spot, as well as the San Quentin prison. In fact, Hispanics here now account for 78% of the cases, even though they are only 16% of the population.

I would imagine the poor and minorities everywhere, that live in high density areas with little control over housing capacity, are accounting for the lion's share of cases in all these hot spots around the country.
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Same as is happening down south....weather is nice, people want to be out, Covid fatigue etc.

Could also be from US tourists 'on their way to Alaska'....who knows.
Covid fatigue? We've only been in "the soup" of it since mid-March. Jeez, people.
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Also weather is not nice, it's brutally hot at record temperatures here in New Mexico and will be for awhile. Just one of a few reasons I don't see people flocking to restaurants to eat outside right now.
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Old 07-14-2020, 04:45 PM   #11451
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I ate outside at a restaurant a few days ago. Only downside was an occasional fly, but it was nice to eat at a restaurant for the first time in 4 months. Even got a nice view of a protest march while I was there.
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A man was fatally shot Tuesday by a Michigan sheriff’s deputy after stabbing another man who had challenged him about not wearing a mask at a convenience store, police said.

The shooting occurred in Eaton County, southwest of Lansing, about 30 minutes after the stabbing at a Quality Dairy store, state police Lt. Brian Oleksyk said.

A sheriff’s deputy spotted the man’s vehicle in a residential neighborhood and shot him when he tried to attack her with a knife, Oleksyk said.
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Old 07-14-2020, 05:28 PM   #11453
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Philadelphia is cancelling all major public events through the end of February 2021. This includes Thanksgiving parade, Philadelphia Marathon and The Mummers NYD parade.
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Old 07-14-2020, 05:47 PM   #11454
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My employer's sending me out to California for two weeks, I really hope the locals have learned how to wear a damn mask by now. If I come back with the Kung-Flu I'm gonna be pissed. I probably should refuse to go but frankly I couldn't pass up that travel, hazard and overtime pay.
Mike, nearly every store requires a mask around here. People do often exercise and run or walk without masks though.

Unfortunately, you're more likely to get it on the plane ride over here.
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Old 07-14-2020, 06:37 PM   #11455
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PC Richards is one good example. There is a line outside where people need to wait to get inside. Once you finally get in, a salesman must accompany you during your entire visit to ensure safety and comfort in your shopping experience.
you know when you get to that point that is not being done for capacity that is like anti shoplifting procedures.
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A stampede?
No the Stampede was cancelled this year...first time ever.
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Just got back from the dentist to fix a filling that fell out.

Figured it was better to do it now than a few months from now when cases likely to rise higher.

They limited number of patients, made you wash your hands when you showed up, questionnaires....all the employees were wearing masks etc.

But let's face it, if my dentist was infected I'll now be infected. Period. Just another day of rolling the dice.
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A recent Reuters article about the potential importance of memory T-cells for long term immunity, and the possibility that many may already have immunity from prior coronaviruses (from colds, mainly).




https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN24B1D8
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Old 07-14-2020, 07:17 PM   #11459
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Just got back from the dentist to fix a filling that fell out.

Figured it was better to do it now than a few months from now when cases likely to rise higher.

They limited number of patients, made you wash your hands when you showed up, questionnaires....all the employees were wearing masks etc.

But let's face it, if my dentist was infected I'll now be infected. Period. Just another day of rolling the dice.
I know the feeling, I had to wait a long time for a temporary crown to be replaced with a normal crown. But it needed to be done, and it was at the height of the lockdowns, I'm just glad my dentist saw me on emergency time.

Chances are the dentist gets it from you or other patients. Different people breathing directly on the dentist for an hour at a time for 8 hours a day. It went from a relatively safe occupation to top 5 most likely to get infected overnight.

Many dentists have installed UV lights, HEPA filters, electrostatic sprayers. They are paying through the nose to get N95 masks for them and the hygienists.

Quite a few have enacted extra covid/coronavirus cash fees to cover the costs because most dental insurance doesn't pay if they were to just increase the cost of their basic services.
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