HDTVTEST (Vincent Teoh) Discussion Thread - Page 106 - Blu-ray Forum

Auditor55 · 05-26-2025, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Our annual TV Shootout® is a scientific digital video display technology event.

We have famous Digital Video Display scientist and professional experts to present on all of the image performance elements and picture quality attributes with the professional text patterns and then content that exploits what we demonstrated on the test patterns.

Two interesting facts are, although we do not show anyone the results of each TV professional calibration I am very happy to tell you that every year the summery of our professional judges perfectly matches all of the results of each TVs calibration results.

We host our annual TV Shootout as early in the new TV model year as possible, and when all of the professional TV reviews come our they also match our panel of expert judges summary of their votes for each picture attribute.

I'm aware of what goes on at the VE Shootouts. However, and I mean no disrespect, I must ask, what makes your shootouts more credible than Vincent Teoh's shootouts?

Are you implying that his shootouts are less credible than Value Electronics?

How do you explain that some of the same TVs were compared in both shootouts but with different results?

In the Value Electronics 2024 shootout, the A95L won, even though the A95L was a 2023 TV. Sony refused to introduce a flagship OLED in 2024, so you guys brought the 2023 A95L, which, in my opinion, should not have been included in the 2024 shootout since it is a 2023 TV. If anything, the Bravia 8 should have been in the 2024 lineup since that TV was a 2024 TV. That is what Sony decided to do for OLED in 2024. Sony introduced a mini LED TV (Bravia 9) as their flagship, which you guys decided to create a separate category for Mini-LEDs in the shoutout. The Bravia 9 (Sony's 2024 flagship) did not go up against the flagship LG G4 or the Samsung S95D.

Robert Zohn · 05-26-2025, 07:18 PM

Vincent Techs TV Shootout is a copy of our original TV Shootout® and Vincent did a good job with his TV evaluation event.

My post you quoted explains several of the differences that we designed and perform to make our annual TV Shootout Evaluation events the most accurate and useful to all who use the summary of our professional judges voting results to select the best TV for their use-case and personal likings.

Sony officially carried over their Flagship A95L QD OLED TV, but with the 2024 model year the new A95L TVs all had Samsung Display's new 2024 3rd generation of the QD OLED panel.

The BRAVIA 9 is Sony's Flagship QD MiniLED category. For the 2024 model year Sony's 2nd generation was their Flagship A95L Master Series QD OLED TV.

For the new 2025 model year Sony's New Flagship QD OLED is the BRAVIA 8 II, model # K65XR80M2

At the end of our two TV Shootout events, OLED and MiniLED we put the two winner butt up against each-other so everyone participating can see and discuss the differences while we are still live broadcasting the event Worldwide.

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Auditor55 · 07-18-2025, 07:39 PM

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Sony BRAVIA 8 II QD-OLED TV Review - YouTube

That TV is getting killed on many levels.

SeeMoreDigital · 07-18-2025, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Auditor55

That TV is getting killed on many levels.

I don't understand what you mean!

Auditor55 · 07-21-2025, 03:28 AM

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I don't understand what you mean!

Uncle Bud · 07-21-2025, 03:44 AM

Damn. I don't have a dedicated theater room...that ambient black level raise is a deal breaker for me.

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teddyballgame · 08-03-2025, 03:06 AM

nu shooz

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Jay Mammoth · 08-12-2025, 08:27 PM

I think Panasonic is going to take the crown from LG this year, glad I got the G4 for $3K.

05-26-2025, 07:18 PM	#2102
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	Vincent Techs TV Shootout is a copy of our original TV Shootout® and Vincent did a good job with his TV evaluation event. My post you quoted explains several of the differences that we designed and perform to make our annual TV Shootout Evaluation events the most accurate and useful to all who use the summary of our professional judges voting results to select the best TV for their use-case and personal likings. Sony officially carried over their Flagship A95L QD OLED TV, but with the 2024 model year the new A95L TVs all had Samsung Display's new 2024 3rd generation of the QD OLED panel. The BRAVIA 9 is Sony's Flagship QD MiniLED category. For the 2024 model year Sony's 2nd generation was their Flagship A95L Master Series QD OLED TV. For the new 2025 model year Sony's New Flagship QD OLED is the BRAVIA 8 II, model # K65XR80M2 At the end of our two TV Shootout events, OLED and MiniLED we put the two winner butt up against each-other so everyone participating can see and discuss the differences while we are still live broadcasting the event Worldwide.

07-21-2025, 03:44 AM	#2115
Uncle Bud Expert Member Top contributor Member since:Dec 2023 Location:USA 4K collection:28 Blu-ray collection:53 DVD collection:6 Blu-ray reviews: 8	Damn. I don't have a dedicated theater room...that ambient black level raise is a deal breaker for me.

08-12-2025, 08:27 PM	#2120
Jay Mammoth Blu-ray Champion Member since:Mar 2011 Location:Buffalo NY Home Theater Gallery:5 4K collection:583 Blu-ray collection:1607 DVD collection:63 iTunes collection:14 Prime collection:1 Trading Score:24	I think Panasonic is going to take the crown from LG this year, glad I got the G4 for $3K.

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