HDTVTEST (Vincent Teoh) Discussion Thread

[DDH]

Originally Posted by Waboman

Vincents a90j review is up.

Best HDR he's ever seen in a consumer oled. Surpasses the GZ2000. HDTV test best in class award. Sony is cooking with gas now! I love how the Brits say aluminum.

Sony A90J Review - Most Impactful HDR I've Seen from an OLED TV! - YouTube

It outperforms the 2019 GZ2000 but let's wait for the JZ2000. I think we'll have another surprise.

[LordoftheRings]

Time to get rid of those inferior LG OLED TVs...Salvation Army Thrift stores.

[PUsokrJosh305]

Clearly, Sony got it right this year!! It still bugs me though that Vincent always depicts LG's Dynamic Tone Mapping functions by pausing a scene and turning it "On" and "Off". From my own experiences with my LG C9, Dynamic Tone Mapping is more subtle/not as aggressive on what it does when the scene is actually moving vs. when paused (like what Vincent demonstrates in his videos). Don't get me wrong, I like Vincent's videos a lot! That's just my only nitpick about them though.

[wxman2003]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Vincent's evaluation match our findings exactly. Here's FOMO's Youtube video with our calibrator, John and me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QJU...ature=youtu.be

And Here's FOMO's Youtube video with his editing and comments. All of the content is from our March 10th video listed above:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUDZ...ature=youtu.be

We've calibrated over 60 A90Js so far and they come out of the box very nice and calibrated beautifully. This is a very big upgrade in display technology for the 2021 model year.

Coming from and LG E6, everything about the A90J is true, and then some. What an amazing tv. It was a worthwhile upgrade for me.

[wxman2003]

I loaded D-Nice settings from AVS on my 65A90J and they do make a difference. Color pops more. Load up a 10% slide of red, green and blue, and switch between Custom 1 with the adjustments, and custom 2 without the adjustments, you will see the colors pop more both in HDR and SDR.

[Robert Zohn]

Tomorrow FOMO will be discussing Sony's A90J, and LG's C1 with our calibrator, John Reformato and myself. This is a live podcast with open Q&A.

Hope to see many of my Blu-ray.com friends in the chat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY3O...ature=youtu.be

[mrtickleuk]

Originally Posted by chip75

We don't say a-lum-in-um we say a-lu-min-ium, it's a different word, not a potato potato thing. Some folks think it's the same spelling with different pronunciation.

Indeed, and it's not just us Brits. It's everyone else in the world.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Thankfully, Wikipedia gets it right... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium

[Scottishguy]

Originally Posted by SeeMoreDigital

Thankfully, Wikipedia gets it right... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by DDH

It outperforms the 2019 GZ2000 but let's wait for the JZ2000. I think we'll have another surprise.

From what I’ve heard, there are multiple pages devoted to the red tint border and grid issue(s) with the A90J consumer panels prompting returns (to Best Buy) because of such by multiple owners posting in the AVS Owner’s thread and on other forums, e.g. - http://www.hifi-forum.de/bild/grid-p...2_1094529.html

Don’t know what to think/believe wrt the grid pattern prevalence and its visibility in white colored content especially in HDR movies.

[I DO BLU]

YouTube

[Wormicide]

These grid and tint problems have me thinking of not upgrading my 65” C8 this year to a 77” or go cheaper and get a x90j or x95j depending on those reviews

[wxman2003]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

From what I’ve heard, there are multiple pages devoted to the red tint border and grid issue(s) with the A90J consumer panels prompting returns (to Best Buy) because of such by multiple owners posting in the AVS Owner’s thread and on other forums, e.g. - http://www.hifi-forum.de/bild/grid-p...2_1094529.html

Don’t know what to think/believe wrt the grid pattern prevalence and its visibility in white colored content especially in HDR movies.

I have not noticed the grid issue on my 65A90J. Had it now for 3 weeks. Watched several UHD discs, and not one had a grid issue. I know some people do have it, and John from VE has said in a youtube video with FOMO, that all have it to some extent. With some tvs it is quite noticeable, and with others, like mine, it is not unless you put your nose up to the tv.

[Scottishguy]

[Show spoiler]

Originally Posted by I DO BLU

https://youtube.com/watch?v=R1Ha_9LajOE

Worth a click just for the analogy of the box being like a battered haddock from the local chippie lol.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by wxman2003

I have not noticed the grid issue on my 65A90J. Had it now for 3 weeks. Watched several UHD discs, and not one had a grid issue. I know some people do have it, and John from VE has said in a youtube video with FOMO, that all have it to some extent. With some tvs it is quite noticeable, and with others, like mine, it is not unless you put your nose up to the tv.

Perhaps you hit the lucky lottery?

[wxman2003]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Perhaps you hit the lucky lottery?

Most likely.

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Time to get rid of those inferior LG OLED TVs...Salvation Army Thrift stores.

A lot of C7's and C8's from 2-3 years ago are probably at thrift stores already.

I have to suffer at least 5 years or more until Micro-led comes up to get Sony and Panasonic OLED at the thrift stores.

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

From what I’ve heard, there are multiple pages devoted to the red tint border and grid issue(s) with the A90J consumer panels prompting returns (to Best Buy) because of such by multiple owners posting in the AVS Owner’s thread and on other forums, e.g. - http://www.hifi-forum.de/bild/grid-p...2_1094529.html

Don’t know what to think/believe wrt the grid pattern prevalence and its visibility in white colored content especially in HDR movies.

People on the AVS forum look for stuff to complain about. It wouldn't be the AVS forum if they didn't.

[Jay Mammoth]

Originally Posted by wxman2003

I have not noticed the grid issue on my 65A90J. Had it now for 3 weeks. Watched several UHD discs, and not one had a grid issue. I know some people do have it, and John from VE has said in a youtube video with FOMO, that all have it to some extent. With some tvs it is quite noticeable, and with others, like mine, it is not unless you put your nose up to the tv.

Haven’t noticed it on my 77” C1 either. Amazing TV from LG once again.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Wormicide

These grid and tint problems have me thinking of not upgrading my 65” C8 this year to a 77” or go cheaper and get a x90j or x95j depending on those reviews

If everything aligns as to my needs and I get a craving for something new, I may pick up a big boy X95J -

FIRST LOOK: Sony X95J BRAVIA XR TV - YouTube

later this year or next as they’re looking like a lot of bang for the buck. They will likely be entirely sufficient for movie watching at our weekend getaway home and since I watch a lot of sports, superior to OLED for that. Despite OLED disciples constantly bending over backwards to claim the new Sony A90J is so bright and elitist attitudes to mastering levels for SDR, I feel that LEDs still give the viewer the feeling of being there at the game, much more so than OLED, which remains hamstrung in nits at the top end for reality content viewing like a soccer or football match, even when closing the shades a bit on a Sunday afternoon.

Even though I could close all the shades and draw the curtains to make the room into a bat cave, I refuse to do so on a weekend afternoon, especially if my wife or guests are watching with me.