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Old 12-16-2019, 03:50 PM   #1261
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CES 2020 Las Vegas: Konka Group China TV Technology Powerhouse Invades America

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CES Las Vegas is routinely the point of introduction for new foreign firms’s first offerings of products or services or SAAS to America. Here’s Konka Group China to CES 2020 Las Vegas in the following press release to Zennie62Media.

Leading Consumer Electronics Maker Taps Experienced U.S. Executive Management Team to Launch Konka North America, LLC; Will Showcase a Wide Variety of Advanced Technology at CES 2020

IRVINE, Ca – The Konka Group, a leading digital home entertainment manufacturer and one of the top five TV brands in China, today announced a major brand expansion into the North American market. With 35 years of experience as a prime manufacturer, developing, designing, and engineering quality products, Konka is now poised to launch in North America with an exciting range of “market-right” TV and Smart Home series. The new lineup will offer consumers both high performance and high value, with technologies and features designed to meet and exceed today’s home entertainment needs. Konka has recruited an experienced executive team of CE industry veterans to launch and build Konka’s digital home entertainment business in the United States and Canada.

Konka at CES 2020
Konka’s wide-ranging expertise and innovation will be on display at CES 2020 at the Konka Booth #10053 (Front of Central Hall Near the 2 Doors), including an eye-catching showcase of the future of TV with its advanced Micro LED technology, which can already be found in new Konka commercial displays. The company will also demonstrate a wide variety of other cutting-edge technologies including Mini LED, OLED , 8K, Quantum Dot and 5G. Most importantly, Konka will debut a new line-up of 4K Ultra HD and Smart Products slated for availability in North America this Spring.

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Old 12-16-2019, 04:58 PM   #1262
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Investment into LCD to dry up by 2022, says IHS Markit - FlatPanelsHD

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After more than a decade of dominance, the LCD market is starting to implode. Analyst company IHS Markit expects investment into LCD to completely dry up by 2022.

OLED investment to surge
Samsung has announced that it will transition away from LCD to focus on next-generation technologies such as QD-OLED. Panasonic will end production of LCD panels by 2021 and LG Display is reportedly planning to halve LCD TV panel production next year.

IHS Markit now expects investment into LCD equipment to completely dry up by 2022. The final investment into the sector will happen in 2020 as BOE expands its 10.5G LCD line and CSoT (TCL) makes investment into its 10.5G factory.



This is a major shift after LCD has dominated display sectors, ranging from TVs to handheld screens, for more than a decade. Plasma remained a niche in TVs until it disappeared. However, in recent years we have seen OLED emerge as a superior alternative to LCD in many applications.

IHS Markit expects investment into OLED to surge over the next five years as more panel makers, including Samsung Display, JOLED, and CSoT, get involved in earnest. The next phase after OLED could be microLED - tiny inorganic light emitting diodes - but IHS Markit does not expect microLED to reach the mass-market before 2026.
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Old 12-16-2019, 05:19 PM   #1263
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Geoff is going to be hanging on to his ZD9 for a long long time then.

Concerning burn in going forward. I've explained to people burn in is not the fault of OLED, but content not being broadcast or designed for such panels.

News channels for example were for example designed to be overally saturated vivid and bright to ensure fully general consumer would buy into HD.

Now with the UHD standard, and OLED looking set to be the panel they will view it on. They will change their designs to be OLED friendly, letting the wide colour gamut and bit depth do the work.

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Old 12-16-2019, 05:39 PM   #1264
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I don't see a whole lot of computer monitors that are something other than LCD.

"Implode"?
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Huawei and Xiaomi to launch OLED TVs next year - FlatPanelsHD

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Two Chinese companies, Huawei and Xiaomi, will jump on the OLED TV bandwagon next year as LCD is slowly but steadily being abandoned.

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LG Display is currently the sole supplier of OLED TV panels to 15 companies. The group includes brands such as Sony, Panasonic, Philips, Skyworth, and of course LG Electronics.

Next year, the list of companies sourcing OLED TV panels from LG Display will grow. It has already been confirmed that Vizio will launch its first OLED TV next year, and Hisense is expected to expand its OLED TV line-up to the US.

Xiaomi now confirms that it is planning to adopt OLED panels for some of its TVs early next year and Korean media are reporting that Huawei will follow suit. The OLED TVs will be announced later so details and specifications are currently unknown.

Vizio, Xiaomi, and Huawei are major players in the consumer electronics sector so this is good news for consumers as it will help boost competition. Some of the OLED TV panels are likely to come from LG Display's new production facility in Guangzhou, China. LG Display had planned to start mass production at the new facility this year but reports out of Korea claim that plans have been slightly delayed into next year.
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Old 12-16-2019, 05:48 PM   #1266
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I don't see a whole lot of computer monitors that are something other than LCD.

"Implode"?
From January creative blog.com Dell UP3218K display review article

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Even though this Dell UltraSharp UP3218K display will look amazing on your desk it’s hard not to wince at the quite considerable price tag. But for your high outlay you will get the future here and now. But unless you’ll need to edit 8K over the next few years or deal with particularly high-res photos, don’t expect to future-proof for a decade in the future. By the time 8K is a fixture, this screen will surely outdated, its IPS screen technology in particular replaced by some of the specifications we’re seeing in high end TVs now, such as OLED – Dell itself has experimented with a 30-inch OLED monitor.
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Old 12-16-2019, 06:30 PM   #1267
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Experimenting with OLED monitors.

In the meantime I don't see them shifting the entire market to OLED (or something non-LCD) in less than 3 years.
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Experimenting with OLED monitors.

In the meantime I don't see them shifting the entire market to OLED (or something non-LCD) in less than 3 years.
Anythings possible. The 2020s promises unprecedented rapid technological advancement.
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ABI: Tech Trends That Won't Be in 2020 - BroadcastingCable

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Here are some tech trends you shouldn't be watching for in 2020, including the promise of 8K, which will be trumped by the reality of 4K.

That is according to tech consultant ABI Research in a new white paper on "54 Tech Trends to Watch in 2020," which also includes a large handful of things that ABI predicts, despite their buzz, "won't happen in the year ahead."

"The year 2020 will not be the year of 8K TV's, ABI predicts, but instead the year of the continued rollout of 4K.

It said CES will certainly showcase a bunch of 8K sets and the price will go down. But while streamed coverage of the 2020 Olympics is a potential driver of 8K set sales, broadcast 8K will likely to be confined to Japan and, with still not much 8K content available generally, adoption of the technology will remain limited, ABI predicts, with price also a limiting factor given the current low end range of a couple thousand dollars for an 8K set. By contrast, 4K sets are now affordable "for most consumers" (a 50 inch Sumsung 4K set is $279 at Best Buy.

Bottom line, says ABI, the transition from HD to ultra-HD (4K) will continue, but 8K will be limited, with a predicted less than 1 million sets shipped worldwide in 2020.

“Announcements of 8K Television (TV) sets by major vendors earlier in 2019 attracted much attention and raised many of questions within the industry,” said Khin Sandi Lynn, Video & Cloud Services Analyst at ABI Research, in the report. “The fact is, 8K content is not available and the price of 8K TV sets are exorbitant."

Among the other things it said won't be happening are consolidation of the IoT market, 5G wearables, a glide path to consumer 5G, and edge data services overtaking the cloud.

Dan Shey, VP at ABI, said talk of consolidation in the IoT platform market is highly overrated. “The simple reason is that there are more than 100 companies that offer device-to-cloud IoT platform services and for every one that is acquired, there are always new ones that come to market," he said.

“While smartphones will dominate the 5G market in 2020, 5G wearables won’t arrive in 2020, or anytime soon,” said ABI analyst Stephanie Tomsett. “To bring 5G to wearables, specific 5G chipsets will need to be designed [and haven't been, said ABI] and components will need to be reconfigured to fit in the small form factor. That won’t begin to happen until 2024, at the earliest.”

On the 5G consumer front, it points to the high cost of "densifying" networks "without clear new revenue opportunities, because 5G is typically sold at the same price as 4G." But it does seen compromise technologies, particularly dynamic spectrum sharing, as being a bright spot since it allows 4G and 5G to run on the same frequency band, limiting the need to densify and thus lower build-out costs.
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Experimenting with OLED monitors.

In the meantime I don't see them shifting the entire market to OLED (or something non-LCD) in less than 3 years.
correct. AOU does not appear to have any plans to close down LCD production. A world run by oled would not be as great as some might assume. The difference between "cheap" oled and "high end" oled would be similar to dirt cheap LCD and a flagship LCD. Cheap oleds on the very low end would likely be very dim and not have any burn in protection, as well as smaller color gamuts, uniformity problems/vignetting/banding, longevity of such cheap oleds would probably not be great either. Although if given the choice, id probably run with the cheap oled myself even knowing it may not last as long.
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correct. AOU does not appear to have any plans to close down LCD production. A world run by oled would not be as great as some might assume. The difference between "cheap" oled and "high end" oled would be similar to dirt cheap LCD and a flagship LCD. Cheap oleds on the very low end would likely be very dim and not have any burn in protection, as well as smaller color gamuts, uniformity problems/vignetting/banding, longevity of such cheap oleds would probably not be great either. Although if given the choice, id probably run with the cheap oled myself even knowing it may not last as long.
I believe the difference with most OLED screens from say LG is mostly just size. There's not the same diminishing quality as with LCD.
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I believe the difference with most OLED screens from say LG is mostly just size. There's not the same diminishing quality as with LCD.
You know there are other applications for OLED screens besides TVs right? And that there are other manufacturers of OLED displays besides LG, namely Samsung. I think if OLED becomes more common in the 22-32" configurations more manufacturers will jump in to fill the demand, and as we know manufacturers want to improve their profit margins if they can, thus you create a space for lower quality, lower cost displays.
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I believe the difference with most OLED screens from say LG is mostly just size. There's not the same diminishing quality as with LCD.
Right, with emissive displays you have perfect local dimming, contrast at any size, where as with LCD displays the smaller it gets the worse the backlighting will be to support anything along the lines of HDR. But then we have most computer vendors not interested in you watching movies in HDR on your display.
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BOE demonstrates a 55" 8K ink-jet printed OLED TV prototype

Yesterday BOE held its Innovation Partner Conference (IPC) at the Beijing APEC Center and the company unveiled a 55" 8K (160 PPI) OLED TV prototype produced by inkjet printing. The panel achieves a maximum brightness of 400 nits and a color gamut of 95% DCI-P3.

https://www.oled-info.com/boe-demons...d-tv-prototype
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You know there are other applications for OLED screens besides TVs right? And that there are other manufacturers of OLED displays besides LG, namely Samsung. I think if OLED becomes more common in the 22-32" configurations more manufacturers will jump in to fill the demand, and as we know manufacturers want to improve their profit margins if they can, thus you create a space for lower quality, lower cost displays.
I'm perfectly aware. Samsung aren't returning to OLED till 2021.



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Right, with emissive displays you have perfect local dimming, contrast at any size, where as with LCD displays the smaller it gets the worse the backlighting will be to support anything along the lines of HDR. But then we have most computer vendors not interested in you watching movies in HDR on your display.
While there have been some fantastic LED/LCD screens to speak of. OLED makes the technology look like something produced in the former East Germany.
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I believe the difference with most OLED screens from say LG is mostly just size. There's not the same diminishing quality as with LCD.

Think 2014/2015 oled quality. It's already been proven that the 2019 LG B9 is around 25% less bright than the C9, worse uniformity, and suffers from black crush. So no, not all oleds are created equal. The bigger the lineup, the worse the models at the bottom will be.

It's exactly the same with Plasma. Not all plasma tvs had good brightness or great black levels. That was reserved for high end models to get your money.
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Yep. Just look at the differences that have occurred across the CE manufacturers' OLEDs despite them all starting with the same panels at source; there's a LOT more that goes into a TV than just the panel. With cheapy small-screen OLED yields will come cheapy performance. Still better comparative performance than them 'Eastern Bloc' cheapy LCDs, but nothing like the 'reference' standard that the higher spec models attain. 'Twas ever thus with small and large screen TVs.
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Think 2014/2015 oled quality. It's already been proven that the 2019 LG B9 is around 25% less bright than the C9, worse uniformity, and suffers from black crush. So no, not all oleds are created equal. The bigger the lineup, the worse the models at the bottom will be.

It's exactly the same with Plasma. Not all plasma tvs had good brightness or great black levels. That was reserved for high end models to get your money.
Wasn't the B8 somewhat more on par with the C8 though?
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Who? Your mate Noremac, that comment was directly from the top tier of the hyperbole section.
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