Indiana Jones 5

[imsounoriginal]

‘Indiana Jones 5’: David Koepp on Why He’s No Longer Writing the Script

We asked about the status of the project and whether or not he was still attached, reiterating rumors that he had been replaced, at one point, with Jonathan Kasdan.. “Not anymore,” Koepp clarified. This largely has to do with Steven Spielberg, who had directed every other entry in the franchise, choosing to walk away. James Mangold, who recently helmed Ford v. Ferrari, has taken over. “When James Mangold came in … he deserves a chance to take his shot at it. I’d done several versions with Steven. And when Steven left, it seemed like the right time to let Jim have his own take on it and have his own person or himself write it.”

[TheWildWhelk]

Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

‘Indiana Jones 5’: David Koepp on Why He’s No Longer Writing the Script

This has got to be good news; how much worse can it get than Indy 4? Koepp is a hack, and i'm glad he is gone.

[Roonan]

Originally Posted by TheWildWhelk

This has got to be good news; how much worse can it get than Indy 4?

Does Indy need to be the next vandalized franchise for people to discover how worse can it get?

[slimdude]

harrison Ford is no spring chicken, he's old. That will be like Clint Eastwood trying to do another Dirty Harry movie at 90 years old. If Harrison Ford decide to make another Indy film then it'll be foolish of him because of his age. It's too physical! Most certainly all the def defying action scenes will be performed by a stuntman, and the audience is going to know that it's not Harrison Ford.

[CyberpunkCentral]

Originally Posted by slimdude

harrison Ford is no spring chicken, he's old. If he decide to make another Indy film then it'll be foolish of him because of his age. It's too physical! Most certainly all the def defying action scenes will be performed by a stuntman, and the audience is going to know that it's not Harrison Ford.

I predict that the movie will be aware of this fact and Indy will form a team to do all the physical stuff, while he is the brains of this whole operation.

[SmittysGelato]

Personally, I'd never underestimate Harrison Ford. He's an old man, but a badass old man.

[imsounoriginal]

Originally Posted by TheWildWhelk

This has got to be good news; how much worse can it get than Indy 4? Koepp is a hack, and i'm glad he is gone.

Indy 4 was good, so I imagine it can get a lot worse.

[slimdude]

Originally Posted by CyberpunkCentral

I predict that the movie will be aware of this fact and Indy will form a team to do all the physical stuff, while he is the brains of this whole operation.

If I'm not physically able to play the character and give it my 100% then I just wouldn't do it at all. Harrison Ford has already made four Indiana Jones movies, and he should feel like he's done enough. It's not like he's desperately need the money because he doesn't! Some actors just don't want to get old, and want to try to prove themselves by attempting to do the things they've used to do, when they were 40 years younger because they have too much pride.

[levcore]

I imagine there is a ridiculous payday involved in this

[CyberpunkCentral]

Originally Posted by slimdude

If I'm not physically able to play the character completely and give it my 100% then I just wouldn't do it at all. Harrison Ford has already made four Indiana Jones movies, and he should feel like he's done enough. It's not like he's desperately need the money because he doesn't! Some actors just don't want to get old, and want to try to prove themselves by attempting to do the things they've used to do, when they were 40 years younger because they have too much pride.

Yeah, but there is a story there. About Indy wanting to continue doing what he does best, but can no longer physically do it anymore. That's the point. That's why they hired James Mangold to direct it instead. Because he has proven he can tell stories about old men no longer in their prime anymore. Have you seen Logan?

[JimboTHX1138]

So no Spielberg, no Lucas. Why even make this? Hard pass.

[CyberpunkCentral]

Originally Posted by JimboTHX1138

So no Spielberg, no Lucas. Why even make this? Hard pass.

Well, they are responsible for Indy 4, so...

[Monterey Jack]

Originally Posted by CyberpunkCentral

That's why they hired James Mangold to direct it instead. Because he has proven he can tell stories about old men no longer in their prime anymore. Have you seen Logan?

There's a big difference between an action movie with a fifty-year-old lead, and an action movie with an EIGHTY-year-old lead.

[Steelhooks]

All of the deepfake videos on YouTube recently should make none of us doubt Ford’s acting ability on Bradley Cooper’s body.

[Star Lord]

Originally Posted by CyberpunkCentral

Well, they are responsible for Indy 4, so...

Well Indy 4 was good so....

[TheWildWhelk]

Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

Indy 4 was good, so I imagine it can get a lot worse.

Yes, the point is that the previous three films were great, all of them, legendary pieces of adventure cinema, whereas Indy 4 felt like it was going through the motions.

Originally Posted by Monterey Jack

There's a big difference between an action movie with a fifty-year-old lead, and an action movie with an EIGHTY-year-old lead.

Even in Indy 4 they chose to focus Indy on vehicular action rather than Ford running around like he was in his mid 40's. 12 years later and Ford is expected to pull off the same action? Not going to happen.

[kwisatzhaderach]

Originally Posted by TheWildWhelk

This has got to be good news; how much worse can it get than Indy 4? Koepp is a hack, and i'm glad he is gone.

You get Jonathan Kasdan instead. Happy?

[TheWildWhelk]

Originally Posted by kwisatzhaderach

You get Jonathan Kasdan instead. Happy?

So we have Kasdan and Mangold, or just Kasdan? Because Mangold is a fine writer in his own regard.

[SmittysGelato]

The fact Mangold is directing this makes me feel that this movie is going to turn out just fine.

[FatherDude]

Originally Posted by TheWildWhelk

So we have Kasdan and Mangold, or just Kasdan? Because Mangold is a fine writer in his own regard.

As far as I know Kasdan has long been off the project. The timeline seems to be that Koepp was the writer from the beginning (2016) and departed in 2018 to shoot YOU SHOULD HAVE LEFT. During that period is when Jon Kasdan and then Dan Fogelman came in. Koepp then returned to the project sometime in 2019, and now development is back at square one with Mangold replacing Spielberg.

If Mangold is developing his script with a writing partner, they haven't been identified yet. I agree with you that Mangold being an accomplished screenwriter in his own right suggests he may not need a collaborator, though maybe he can buid on some of the existing material instead of starting from total scratch. In the four years Spielberg and Koepp have been trying to crack the script, they must have come up with some usable elements...surely? Koepp seemed to think they ended up with a good script, and Harrison Ford said as much during the CALL OF THE WILD press junket.

Maybe Spielberg wasn't pleased or maybe he vacated the director's chair for some other reason, but it's weird to completely toss away a script about which there seemed to be some positive consensus and which had taken so long to achieve. It wouldn't be an uncommon story in the realm of Hollywood development if that's what happened, though.