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Old 06-09-2010, 06:43 AM   #281
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i hope its better than IJ4. even though it was good. it just wasnt like the other 3 movies.
 
Old 06-09-2010, 07:10 AM   #282
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I don't recall Atlantis ever being rumored to be in the Bermuda Triangle, but please someone correct me if I'm wrong.....then again.....it's just a mythical place.
 
Old 06-09-2010, 12:57 PM   #283
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but not alien crystal skulls


yes and yes. Obviously talk of it will be one event known as the last supper but the last supper is not just mentioned once in the bible

here are just 3 (easy to find) instances)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...25&version=KJV
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...29&version=KJV
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...20&version=KJV


Hitler was not in this one


yes but in the movie the Ark has powers, you open it and everyone else dies, remember the whole Nazi army that disintegrated? If such a box with such powers existed, how could the Israelites be defeated? The Israelites would have opened it and the Babylonians would have lost, not won.
I didn't say Hitler was in Indy 4. I was just saying that the fanatastic, the mystical, the occult, are all part of the world of Indiana Jones. And that is a throwback to the movies that Indiana Jones is paying homage to.

Yes, in the movies, the ark has powers. Never said anything different.

And yes, the Last Supper is mentioned in more than one Gospel. But my point was that the way you posted, it sounded like the grail is mentioned in different areas of the Bible. It is not. In fact, the Bible only mentions that JC drank from a cup and that's it.

And my impression of Indy 4 was that they were trying to make a link between the UFOs and crystals, and crystal skulls, hence alien crystal skulls. That is not far fetched. When you look at the major advocates of belief in aliens and UFOs, you will also see that most of those people also are involved in various occult beliefs as well. At least 2 books have been written showing the strong link between UFOs and occultism. Of course there are the materialists who are just interested in the possibility of extra-terrestrial life.
 
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I don't recall Atlantis ever being rumored to be in the Bermuda Triangle, but please someone correct me if I'm wrong.....then again.....it's just a mythical place.
http://www.mysticalblaze.com/OtherDimensionsBermuda.htm

Then towards the bottom of this link you see Atlantis mentioned:

http://www.qsl.net/w5www/bermuda.html

All you have to do is Google "Bermuda Triangle Atlantis" and you will see the link between the two.

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Old 06-09-2010, 01:49 PM   #285
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Indy four was great. Not the best, but certainly third in the list with TOD being in last place. I look forward to seeing the fifth film. And hey, look on the bright side... This time we we will probably be alien free. I hope we perhaps go back to a search for another religious artifact since it worked so well the last two times. And Nazis... Indy has to kick more Nazi butt!
 
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Ever since playing the old video game "Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis," I always fancied that Atlantis should be the centerpiece of a new Indy film. Hell, ANY film about Atlantis would be welcome!

I'll probably enjoy it, regardless of what story they pick.
 
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Atlantis and Lemuria WERE real places. Dig deeper than "lies agreed upon" conventional history. Those places later helped shape Sumaria, Eygypt, Tibet and the Incan empire.What Atlantis went through in her final days ,we seem to be going through right now. History repeating itself when lessons go un- learned.
There is an old story that tells of a crystal as large as a HOUSE from Atlantis, that is at the bootm of the Bermuda Triangle.
It all sounds like an Indy story I would want to see. Wouldn't you?
 
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Ever since playing the old video game "Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis," I always fancied that Atlantis should be the centerpiece of a new Indy film. Hell, ANY film about Atlantis would be welcome!
Great game.. I think Atlantis is a awesome myth to use in a Indy script. But please no Aliens and please give 'off his rockers' Lucas less input.
 
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And yes, the Last Supper is mentioned in more than one Gospel. But my point was that the way you posted, it sounded like the grail is mentioned in different areas of the Bible.
it is mentioned in different gospels and letters, where else would you expect it? in Genesis? Exodus?.... it will be in the new testament, it did not exist before
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no he blessed it, drank from it and then passed it to his disciples and told them to drink from it. That is what makes it a sacred relic. Obviously like the Ark the rest (magic) was made up for the film.

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Old 06-10-2010, 12:19 AM   #290
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I don't recall Atlantis ever being rumored to be in the Bermuda Triangle, but please someone correct me if I'm wrong.....then again.....it's just a mythical place.
If Atlantis existed all that we "know" is that it was past Gibraltar.
 
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it is mentioned in different gospels and letters, where else would you expect it? in Genesis? Exodus?.... it will be in the new testament, it did not exist before


no he blessed it, drank from it and then passed it to his disciples and told them to drink from it. That is what makes it a sacred relic. Obviously like the Ark the rest (magic) was made up for the film.
As I recall it, he said a blessing over the wine rather than the cup it was in.
 
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Atlantis and Lemuria WERE real places. Dig deeper than "lies agreed upon" conventional history. Those places later helped shape Sumaria, Eygypt, Tibet and the Incan empire. What Atlantis went through in her final days ,we seem to be going through right now. History repeating itself when lessons go un- learned.
There is an old story that tells of a crystal as large as a HOUSE from Atlantis, that is at the bootm of the Bermuda Triangle.
It all sounds like an Indy story I would want to see. Wouldn't you?
If Atlantis is real or not, none of us know. As for the crystal and BT that is all modern BS.

If Atlantis (what ever it was called) ever existed we only know very few facts and the only original source is Plato and the only real info is in his two books Timaeus and Critias. Now in Timaeus, Critias tells the story told to (his Grand father) Solon by some Egyptian priests when there. People can go to those two texts to get the details but in essence a long time before that there was a big island past the pillars of Hercules (which we call Gibraltar), the people there had conquered most of Europe and Africa Until they came face to face with the Athenians who beat them off and back to their island. And eventually Atlantis was destroyed and wiped out off the face of the earth.

I said "know" because
1) Even though Plato does use historical names in many of his dialogues the discussions are often fake and written to make a point.
2) Even if we assume the discussion was legit it would depend on what Critias said (to be accurate) and that would depend on what Solon said and since the story comes from an Egyptian priest reading very old records it would depend on translations/comprehension between the Priest completely comprehending the extremely old report he was reading.
3) No records, even remotely close, to the story of Atlantis was found in Egypt.
 
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As I recall it, he said a blessing over the wine rather than the cup it was in.
But the wine was in the cup.
 
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it is mentioned in different gospels and letters, where else would you expect it? in Genesis? Exodus?.... it will be in the new testament, it did not exist before
Exactly. It wouldn't be anywhere else. What "letters" are you talking about? Not Paul's. Not Peter's. James? No.

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no he blessed it, drank from it and then passed it to his disciples and told them to drink from it. That is what makes it a sacred relic. Obviously like the Ark the rest (magic) was made up for the film.
He was blessing the food and drink, just like when people say grace before meals. Yes there is a legend around the grail. But it is not supported in any way by Scripture.
 
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If Atlantis existed all that we "know" is that it was past Gibraltar.
I read somewhere that the legend of Atlantis is actually the story of Noah told from the other side. Now there might be the germ of an idea for Indy 5: Noah's Ark and it's connection to Atlantis and the Bermuda Triangle.
 
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Wow! Things got so serious in here

Guys! They are movies, remember??
 
Old 06-10-2010, 01:26 PM   #297
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Wow! Things got so serious in here

Guys! They are movies, remember??
And here I was thinking these were documentaries.

I just hope the Atlantis story line pans out, with or without the religious overtones I am good with. Just no aliens please.
 
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But the wine was in the cup.
And the unleavened bread, which was also blessed, was on a table yet you never hear of the Holy Dinner Table.
 
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And the unleavened bread, which was also blessed, was on a table yet you never hear of the Holy Dinner Table.
Yeah, but what people are saying is that jesus blessed the CUP OF WINE, he didn't bless the BREAD ON THE TABLE, he had the bread in his hand.
 
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the people there had conquered most of Europe and Africa Until they came face to face with the Athenians who beat them off...


If Indy finds flight 19 Spielberg will have some splainin' to do.
 
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