HDR Discussion Thread

[Robert Zohn]

Originally Posted by ray0414

Panasonic tvs are coming back to the USA?

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

That too?

Sorry to say no to that great idea too.

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by gkolb

Ray, do you think you can be seduced over to the Sony camp in the near future? Or still gonna hold out for a little somethin', somethin' showing up from Samsung later on?

I had a Sony 4k TV as my 1st 4k TV. I absolutely loved the upscaling and was jaw dropped, returned it due to severe edge lighting issues.

The Sony Z9F corrects alot of issues I didn't like with the Z9D (glossy screen finally!). But I currently have the upgrade itch, but that itch is to go to a 75" screen so I'm deciding between the Q9 and Z9F at 75". but I have to go with whichever is cheaper due to budget and most likely the 75Q9 will be significantly cheaper. I'm gonna have to choose between the 65z9f and 75q9, but opting for size this time.

[gkolb]

Originally Posted by ray0414

I had a Sony 4k TV as my 1st 4k TV. I absolutely loved the upscaling and was jaw dropped, returned it due to severe edge lighting issues.

The Sony Z9F corrects alot of issues I didn't like with the Z9D (glossy screen finally!). But I currently have the upgrade itch, but that itch is to go to a 75" screen so I'm deciding between the Q9 and Z9F at 75". but I have to go with whichever is cheaper due to budget and most likely the 75Q9 will be significantly cheaper. I'm gonna have to choose between the 65z9f and 75q9, but opting for size this time.

Some similar feelings here with the size itch, 65 Z9D is fantastic with the movies in motion, and even a DVD of The Wedding Date looks respectable on it from my Oppo 203. Can't be sure those hinted prices can really be trusted, tho. I'd def have to sell my 65 to get into the 75".

[wxman2003]

Pioneer coming back into the tv market? We know the Sony Z9F is being announced tomorrow.

[LordoftheRings]

• https://www.technewsworld.com/

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by wxman2003

Pioneer coming back into the tv market?

Plasma Kuro 4K HDR?

[LordoftheRings]

Dolby Vision and HDR10+ free for everyone?

[wxman2003]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Plasma Kuro 4K HDR?

Take my money.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by DisplayCalNoob

I watched that Dolby video a couple days ago, really interesting to see Tom is a fan.

plus, no matter the type of theatrical presentation, seems the critics very much liked the movie itself - https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...-class-1130587 and so far, Paramount is quite happy with the numbers…..https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/29/m...om-cruise.html

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Tomorrow will be another big day on Blu-ray.com with big breaking news. I just feel it in my bones!

Look for a couple new threads in the "Ultra HD Blu-ray and 4K Hardware and Technology" area

instead of failing….

Wile E. Coyote vs the Roadrunner in AR - YouTube

tomorrow, Wilie Coyote succeeds in his quest?

[wxman2003]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

instead of failing….

Wile E. Coyote vs the Roadrunner in AR - YouTube

tomorrow, Wilie Coyote succeeds in his quest?

VE parking lot?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

:-) Sleep in a little late and your wish will be my command. Sleep well and dream of what you would love to see in the advancement of video science.

silly me, I think I know now ……

[DJR662]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

:-) Sleep in a little late and your wish will be my command. Sleep well and dream of what you would love to see in the advancement of video science.

Why do I have a feeling you already know something we don't...

Originally Posted by ray0414

I'm a late sleeper so no worries! The TV industry is gonna be awesome over the next couple of years with state of the art technology coming because of great competition!

I'm from Europe and it's 8:00 in the morning right now so I have all day to follow the news.

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

3D is coming back in North America?

All I need is for 3D to come back on the Z9F.


In a nutshell: I am very excited for the official announcement!

[LordoftheRings]

I'm not sleeping tonight. I'll sleep tomorrow after the news.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by ray0414

The Sony Z9F corrects alot of issues I didn't like with the Z9D (glossy screen finally!).

Seems to me glossy screen is murder with reflections.

[DJR662]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

I'm not sleeping tonight. I'll sleep tomorrow after the news.

I just checked the time difference and it's 3:00 AM right now in NY. Guess it'll take a while before this event starts.

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Seems to me glossy screen is murder with reflections.

Not if combined with anti glare. Semi gloss makes blacks look more grayish.

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by DJR662

I just checked the time difference and it's 3:00 AM right now in NY. Guess it'll take a while before this event starts.

Yep.. Gonna be 5-6 hours at least.

[LordoftheRings]

I don't think that it's going to be revolutionary news, more like evolutionary.

[mrtickleuk]

Originally Posted by IntelliVolume

But will the TV automatically APPLY HDR when I hook up a 4K source that's encoded with it? Right now, I'm only using a Blu-ray player, so should I just use one of the non-HDR modes, such as Standard?

This is the thing that I said was confusing so I will try to explain again.

"Standard" and "Movie" aren't "non-HDR modes". They are modes which auto-switch, and store two sets of values. They are effectively two modes of each, like Movie-SDR and Movie-HDR, but the TV does not tell you which it is in. It just calls both of them by the main name, eg "Movie".

To tell if the TV has switched to HDR, go to the Expert Settings and if it's switched to Backlight=20 Contrast=100 then it's in its HDR set of settings for that mode. You can, and should, set the other things to your taste (eg dynamic contrast, etc).

Also, if it's an HDMI input, the Info banner tells you if it's HDR - see picture below. So, use the remote to get to the Info banner. It's a single key-press on the proper remote with all the keys; buried in a sub-menu somewhere on the so-called "smart" remote.

But that only works for external sources: if it's USB or an internal app, you have to use the "look at the backlight number in Expert settings, and work it out" method.

With regard to my Blu-ray player's (an Oppo BDP-83) COLOR SPACE setting -- I was leaving this on "4:4:4" because Oppo informed me my last display this player was hooked up to (a Sony SXRD) sampled at 4:4:4...since getting the new Samsung, I have switched the Color Space to AUTO. What should this be on? Do you know what the new TV samples at natively?

On the Samsung TV end, colour space is a setting which selects between Native (panel native, auto (rec709 vs rec2020). So I will assume on the Oppo it's a setting to select which kind of chroma sub-sampling you want, if I were you I would leave it at 4:4:4, so that for movies it can use the 4K24 4:4:4 mode (plenty of HDMI bandwidth available at 24Hz, and lets the Oppo to the up-sampling).

Unfortunately on the TV end it refuses to tell you what bit-rate and chroma sub-sampling it's displaying.

This picture illustrates both these things: