HDR Discussion Thread

[gkolb]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

US integrator installs the first US residential installation of a Samsung Wall Professional MicroLED TV



US-based AV integration company Just One Touch Video&Audio Center reports that it recently completed the first US residential installation of Samsung's The Wall Professional MicroLED TV.

The 146" 4K installation, done for a client in Los Angeles, was completed in three days. Just One Touch says that Samsung sent its own personnel to assist with this project. Just One Touch has already secured three more installations - in a hotel lobby, in a luxury mega-yacht and at a home of a "Hollywood Star".

I would bet that this needed it’s own NEW electrical sub-panel to power the display and whatever audio system was installed for this room. These modular display installations are crazy power hungry.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

apples and oranges, just tell me how well we’re doing as compared to other AV type forums

Funny you asked Penton; because they all reflect more or less a similar trend...they go down together, and they go up together, in general. For the last three months they all lost ground...roughly couple dozen audio/video websites (the ones I generally follow). There's a slight climb right now that comes with the season...Halloween, for some of the sites, not all.

One thing is certain; Blu-ray forum is one of the top AV sites...much more traffic than all the others from that similar segment of the audio/cinema industry.
And there are many good reasons for that ...

I believe it'll make up for lost ground...back to the 5,000 area eventually.
And it's all other AV sites which lost ground too, and much more than BR Forum.

Some sites are in the 400,000+ range, others in the 100,000+ range...some @ roughly 50,000 and the best around 20,000-25,000 range.
So, @ 5,000-7,000 range BR Forum is better than the best.

The diversification is top here, and the system operation is top notch.
Were you aware? If not now you are.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBXlbkNVXvA#t=1s

• https://theprovince.com/entertainmen...3-70e9dd50c618

• https://www.cinemablend.com/news/248...perhero-movies

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

One of the more revealing investigations coming out of SMPTE 2019 last week was presented by the 2 Michaels, Zink, of whom many longtime readers of this thread should already be familiar with given past postings and Smith, who may be unfamiliar to most, so some background (co-chair of Blu-ray Disc Association's UHD-TF Video Subgroup) – https://2019.smpte.org/home/speaker/68278/michael-smith

at which they discussed how HDR can accentuate the inherent digital noise of film scanners when scanning film….and possible remedies to mitigate it. In other words, some of those mosquitos people may be seeing in their favorite old movies on home deliverables may not only be attributable to grain (good), but also film scanner noise (bad, as in completely needless).

That is excellent information.

[LordoftheRings]

For October, with still three days to go, this HDR discussion thread (including Maverick, the famous pole, Jerry, Chuck doing the split, etc.) has already received over 400,000 views (like you said; passed the 4 billion* views milestone total), and that's not bad @ all just before Halloween...the season of the witch.
...Maleficent: Mistress of Evil / Joker ... and more to come ... Terminator: Dark Fate ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GELc...ature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVy1...ature=youtu.be

[Show spoiler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtYZ...ature=youtu.be

* Million (not billion)

[DanBa]

"The wait is over!!! I know everyone has wondered and asked and there have also been many questions as to whether we could get Dolby Vision on our home theater projectors. …"
https://www.avforums.com/threads/dol...s-yes.2254350/
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/465-h...rojectors.html


A solution: LLDV or Low Latency Dolby Vision or Player-led Dolby Vision via HDMI interface spoofer HDfury

. Normal LLDV end-to-end system:
Dolby Vision video >> LLDV compliant UHD player >> HDMI >> LLDV compliant interface > LLDV compliant Sony TV

. Spoofed LLDV end-to-end system:
Dolby Vision video >> LLDV compliant UHD player >> HDMI >> LLDV compliant interface > HDfury Vertex > HDR10 compliant interface >> HDMI >> HDR10 compliant home theater projector or TV


.. LLDV compliant UHD player: Dolby Vision decoding & color volume mapping player: UHD Blu-ray player Oppo 203 / 205 or other LLDV compliant UHD player
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...2#post16604552

Oppo UHD Blu-ray player configured in Player-led Dolby Vision / LLDV / Low Latency Dolby Vision



.. HDfury Vertex
"It is a true 2×2 18Gbps HDMI matrix/spliter/switcher/scaler/converter/audio de-embedder, supporting any HDMI, any HDCP and any HDR up to HDR10+, HLG or Dolby Vision (including LLDV)."
https://www.hdfury.com/product/vertex-4k60-444-600mhz/

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

For October, with still three days to go, this HDR discussion thread (including Maverick, the famous pole, Jerry, Chuck doing the split, etc.) has already received over 400,000 views (like you said; passed the 4 billion* views milestone total), and that's not bad @ all just before Halloween...the season of the witch.
...Maleficent: Mistress of Evil / Joker ... and more to come ... Terminator: Dark Fate ...

James Cameron Interview - Terminator: Dark Fate - YouTube

I’ve always liked their apparel and admired their logo ^ - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_Racing as well as their aftermarket accessories since back in my university days .

P.S.
People tell me we tallied well over 20,000 views on this day alone - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...d#post16991081

[Penton-Man]

Robert Zohn, if you ever procure this content -> https://www.widescreenreview.com/new...l.php?id=22094 as a side demo for your next shootout, just make sure that you have plenty of food on hand for the attendees as the tart they showed at this exhibit in 8K HDR as well as other far eastern goodies –



looked scrumptious. You don't want hangry guests voting.

[mrtickleuk]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

It's not 8K? That means it's practically worthless, amirite folks?

Noooo it's the lack of Dolby Vision that makes it worthless

[mrtickleuk]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

at which they discussed how HDR can accentuate the inherent digital noise of film scanners when scanning film….and possible remedies to mitigate it. In other words, some of those mosquitos people may be seeing in their favorite old movies on home deliverables may not only be attributable to grain (good), but also film scanner noise (bad, as in completely needless).

Sounds good... are the remedies to mitigate it years away, or something that could happen soon?

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by mrtickleuk

Noooo it's the lack of Dolby Vision that makes it worthless

Stealing my material eh?

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

James Cameron Interview - Terminator: Dark Fate - YouTube
I’ve always liked their apparel and admired their logo ^ - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_Racing as well as their aftermarket accessories since back in my university days .

P.S.
People tell me we tallied well over 20,000 views on this day alone - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...d#post16991081

P.P.S. You think it has some' to do with James Cameron and his FOX Racing logo shirt?
Because I didn't see any new "pole" recently.

* That's why: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...ostcount=11370

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Robert Zohn, if you ever procure this content -> https://www.widescreenreview.com/new...l.php?id=22094 as a side demo for your next shootout, just make sure that you have plenty of food on hand for the attendees as the tart they showed at this exhibit in 8K HDR as well as other far eastern goodies –

looked scrumptious. You don't want hangry guests voting.

I'd love to see some tarts in 8K, plus the pastries too...

Originally Posted by DanBa

"The wait is over!!! I know everyone has wondered and asked and there have also been many questions as to whether we could get Dolby Vision on our home theater projectors. …"
https://www.avforums.com/threads/dol...s-yes.2254350/
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/465-h...rojectors.html

Brilliant news. They are quite correct in saying that player-led DV is indeed doing all the tone mapping itself and then sending out the signal in a static 'wrapper', all they have to do is spoof the player into sending out the signal in order to force it. Further reading suggests it's not exactly a set and forget solution (Dolby may have quietly done away with the idea of the pre-installed 'golden reference' but they still have a ballpark figure of what every display can do in order to map it, i.e. you still need a target figure to map to) but then what is with HDR?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by mrtickleuk

Sounds good... are the remedies to mitigate it years away, or something that could happen soon?

Later rather than sooner. There will have to be conversations and validations of the work with scanner manufacturers doing their testing. What was presented was just the beginning.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

P.P.S. You think it has some' to do with James Cameron and his FOX Racing logo shirt?
Because I didn't see any new "pole" recently.

I don’t know man, something posted on p. 568 sure drew a crowd, maybe everyone loved the pics of the cast and crew in the U.S. Navy's carrier onboard delivery aeroplane posted the day before?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I'd love to see some tarts in 8K, plus the pastries too...

You’re feelin frisky tonight.
Maybe someday Tanya can do an unboxing video in 8K - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...yz#post8208316

[Geoff D]

Dunno, she's got a little boy now and I dare say those days are behind her, so to speak.

[edit]

Oh, I see you mentioned unboxing vids there Penton, my mind immediately thought of her other pursuits

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I don’t know man, something posted on p. 568 sure drew a crowd, maybe everyone loved the pics of the cast and crew in the U.S. Navy's carrier onboard delivery aeroplane posted the day before?

That's exactly what it was and that I couldn't put the finger on it.
But you sure did Penton, that you did, all the rewards to those great pics.

Where can we send our regards to the people in those pictures?
▪ https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...ostcount=11348

[mrtickleuk]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Stealing my material eh?

Hehe sorry. I reacted instinctively and didn't see the later posts until I'd posted, honest!

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

a little boy

or girl
I feel for the kids and the challenges presented to parents these days because in my formative years we weren’t able/tempted to carry a TV (screen device) in our hand everywhere -

From - https://www.washingtonpost.com/techn...doubled-since/
"said children’s screen time has wide-ranging implications for their social and emotional development, how they form relationships, how they identify themselves, and how they are exposed to extreme politics, hate speech and conspiracy theories.

“This is central to the fabric of our lives,” Steyer said, “and particularly to our kids’ lives.”