HDR Discussion Thread - Page 9 - Blu-ray Forum

Geoff D · 06-04-2016, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bailey1987

Was there anything in SMPTE 2094 that will be missed?

Just dynamic metadata. No biggie

Penton-Man · 06-05-2016, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard Paul

The HEVC meeting just ended and not much happened. The SMPTE 2094 proposals were rejected and I guess they won't be added to HEVC until they are published by SMPTE....

Although the SEI message contribution to the HEVC to support metadata of the Samsung approach was withdrawn based upon the understanding that it might not be within the scope planned for current JCT-VC work, the Samsung dynamic metadata solution remains on track at SMPTE….https://kws.smpte.org/kws/public/pro...project_id=379

Quarterly meetings starting next week.

Penton-Man · 06-08-2016, 07:03 PM

^ 2094 App #4 progress updated yesterday

Penton-Man · 06-10-2016, 03:20 AM

As far as 2094-10 (which is Dolby’s application - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...4#post12007747 )

see recent progress report here….
https://kws.smpte.org/kws/public/pro...project_id=294

MisterXDTV · 06-10-2016, 08:07 PM

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/comm...lu-ray.347934/

The Truth

dvdmike · 06-10-2016, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterXDTV

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/comm...lu-ray.347934/

The Truth

And yet he said that Ghostbusters was ok since he didn't work on it.
Bullshit double standards

FilmFreakosaurus · 06-10-2016, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterXDTV

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/comm...lu-ray.347934/

The Truth

Much depends on the source material being re-graded and its dynamic range capabilities. Some will work with HDR, some will not.

The question remains if catalog titles that would look great with all the other benefits of UHD Blu-ray, but not HDR will still ever be considered for UHD Blu-ray release.

Penton-Man · 06-10-2016, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterXDTV

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/comm...lu-ray.347934/

The Truth

Bob is still posting opinion? Good to hear. I’d thought that HTF kind of bit the dust after the Blu-ray vs. HD DVD format war. How’s their viewership running these days? I’m hoping that since the time I last read him, he has improved his Reviewer observations regarding the presence or absence of banding because banding has the potential to become a more frequent (and annoying) artifact with UHD HDR than standard Blu-ray (Rec 709).

Maybe when I have more time I’ll post more about the challenges of banding and how the encoder can possibly help.

Penton-Man · 06-10-2016, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dvdmike

And yet he said that Ghostbusters was ok since he didn't work on it.
Bullshit double standards

Why am I not surprised,

Geoff D · 06-10-2016, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Bob is still posting opinion? Good to hear. I’d thought that HTF kind of bit the dust after the Blu-ray vs. HD DVD format war. How’s their viewership running these days? I’m hoping that since the time I last read him, he has improved his Reviewer observations regarding the presence or absence of banding because banding has the potential to become a more frequent (and annoying) artifact with UHD HDR than standard Blu-ray (Rec 709).

Maybe when I have more time I’ll post more about the challenges of banding and how the encoder can possibly help.

The ironic thing re: banding is that one of the best UHDs I've yet seen for no banding has come from Lionsgate (Sicario), whereas it's usually their Blu-rays that are absolutely plagued by it (true to form, there's plenty of it in the Sicario Blu-ray).

Penton-Man · 06-10-2016, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

Much depends on the source material being re-graded....

HDR exacerbates grain and noise……
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...e#post11528189

Geoff D · 06-10-2016, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

HDR exacerbates grain and noise……
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...e#post11528189

So it's perfect for all those large format features then?

Penton-Man · 06-11-2016, 05:59 PM

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...r#post12276179

^ To be precise, the approval stage of the process completes on the 4th of July

. Meanwhile, some felt the HLG vibe early…..http://blog.harmonicinc.com/vibe-4k-...n-hdr-and-hlg/

dvdmike · 06-11-2016, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Why am I not surprised,

At?

Richard Paul · 06-11-2016, 09:00 PM

David Wood who is chairman of the DVB work group talked a bit about the HDR plans for DVB Phase 2.

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

^ 2094 App #4 progress updated yesterday

It is good to see the patent declaration from Samsung that it will be free of charge.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...r#post12276179

^ To be precise, the approval stage of the process completes on the 4th of July

. Meanwhile, some felt the HLG vibe early…..http://blog.harmonicinc.com/vibe-4k-...n-hdr-and-hlg/

Fireworks and HDR sounds like a good combination.

Penton-Man · 06-11-2016, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dvdmike

At?

As you

said, "the double standard", i.e. it’s ok to have HDR graded Ghostbusters, but don’t even think about touching my ‘2001, or Lawrence, Ben-Hur, The Godfather, The Magnificent Seven, or Elvira Madigan’....or else I'll post in BIG font.

From where I was standing seems many at CES 2016 enjoyed the HDR snippets of The Godfather in the Technicolor suite (https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...r#post11886241 ) which I personally don’t have a problem with as long as Francis supervised the grade and the SDR version is always available on home media.

Penton-Man · 06-11-2016, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Paul

David Wood who is chairman of the DVB work group talked a bit about the HDR plans for DVB Phase 2.

It is good to see the patent declaration from Samsung that it will be free of charge.

Fireworks and HDR sounds like a good combination.

It does

….and that fact has not escaped content creators and display manufacturers. Wait for a quick pic.

Penton-Man · 06-11-2016, 10:48 PM

Quick cell phone pic of fireworks as seen on the new 55” 4K HDR OLED professional monitor (https://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/cat-mo...-PVMX550.shtml)

Penton-Man · 06-12-2016, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Paul

David Wood who is chairman of the DVB work group talked a bit about the HDR plans for DVB Phase 2.

See Blu-Dog, are you reading ^, the wait for Phase 2 (HDR and HFR content) might not be as long as you might have thought.

btw, testing for the quality of experience and workflow has already happened ….

and continues with other professional labs on projects.

Pieter V · 06-13-2016, 11:29 AM

Dolby Vision Podcast with someone from Dolby UK:

06-08-2016, 07:03 PM	#163
Penton-Man Retired Hollywood Insider Member since:Apr 2007	^ 2094 App #4 progress updated yesterday

06-10-2016, 03:20 AM	#164
Penton-Man Retired Hollywood Insider Member since:Apr 2007	As far as 2094-10 (which is Dolby’s application - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...4#post12007747 ) see recent progress report here…. https://kws.smpte.org/kws/public/pro...project_id=294

06-10-2016, 08:07 PM	#165
MisterXDTV Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2008	http://www.hometheaterforum.com/comm...lu-ray.347934/ The Truth

06-11-2016, 05:59 PM	#173
Penton-Man Retired Hollywood Insider Member since:Apr 2007	https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...r#post12276179 ^ To be precise, the approval stage of the process completes on the 4th of July . Meanwhile, some felt the HLG vibe early…..http://blog.harmonicinc.com/vibe-4k-...n-hdr-and-hlg/

06-11-2016, 10:48 PM	#178
Penton-Man Retired Hollywood Insider Member since:Apr 2007	Quick cell phone pic of fireworks as seen on the new 55” 4K HDR OLED professional monitor (https://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/cat-mo...-PVMX550.shtml)

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