Lawrence of Arabia 4K UHD (1962)

[Ellum]

Originally Posted by Fjodor2000

This reprint is now available for preorder on other markets too. E.g. here's the Nordic edition:

https://www.ginza.se/product/lawrenc...elbook/410421/

But at a significantly higer price than the last reprint. Geez!

[Fjodor2000]

Originally Posted by Ellum

But at a significantly higer price than the last reprint. Geez!

Yeah, looks like they have price matched it, so the Nordic edition costs roughly the same as importing the US/UK edition from those countries after also adding the 25% VAT and shipping cost.

Anyway, I'm going with the Nordic edition, to support the local 4K BD market, and also I prefer to have the local edition if there is one available.

[Rich Pure Doom]

So what should I go with here? The 4K in Dolby Vision or the blu-ray? I've heard conflicting opinions. I've sampled the 4K and definitely notice some weird issues present. What's the overall consensus? I've seen the film plenty of times before, but never watched the 4K.

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by Rich Pure Doom

So what should I go with here? The 4K in Dolby Vision or the blu-ray? I've heard conflicting opinions. I've sampled the 4K and definitely notice some weird issues present. What's the overall consensus? I've seen the film plenty of times before, but never watched the 4K.

4K SDR download if you can get it.

[aladdin123]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

4K SDR download if you can get it.

I really hope we can eventually get caps of the 4K SDR version from Kaleidescape.

[Rich Pure Doom]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

4K SDR download if you can get it.

My options are my options. Are you insinuating I should buy it? Where is that version available?

Of the two presented, what are you going with?

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by Rich Pure Doom

My options are my options. Are you insinuating I should buy it? Where is that version available?

Of the two presented, what are you going with?

There is no question the UHD is better than the BD. The color gamut and HDR alone is a big plus. This issue is the filtering applied which the downloaded version doesn't have and it shows more detail as a result. However, I am fine enough with the UHD.

[emgesp]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

There is no question the UHD is better than the BD. The color gamut and HDR alone is a big plus. This issue is the filtering applied which the downloaded version doesn't have and it shows more detail as a result. However, I am fine enough with the UHD.

What filtering? Any DNR applied is pretty light and nothing on the level of T2.

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by emgesp

What filtering? Any DNR applied is pretty light and nothing on the level of T2.

No one said T2. lol Seriously, there was VERY long discussion about this and screencaps showing the differences. The UHD was unfortunately filtered. Old news.

[Shane Rollins]

I forget whether I asked this in this thread or somewhere else. For anyone who's seen the 1984 Beta, VHS, LD, or CED (the three-hour rerelease cut), is there any footage or any scenes in there that are not in the 1989/2012 cut of the film?

[emgesp]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

No one said T2. lol Seriously, there was VERY long discussion about this and screencaps showing the differences. The UHD was unfortunately filtered. Old news.

I looked at screenshots and didn't see any heavy filtering. I also actually watched the 4K in person and didn't notice this.

[aladdin123]

All credits go to RESET_9999:

YouTube

And here you can find his screenshots of the 4K SDR Kaleidescape version!

https://slow.pics/c/3QpYbuBl

[Hedrox]

It's weird how the MoviesAnywhere stream got a free pass on the grain, while every other version was nerfed.

Should be noted that while MA streams do retain more grain than most digital platforms, they also exhibit a lot of encoding artifacts, as RESET_9999 / TbeRw01 himself pointed out.

[Daytrader]

Wish they would release a normal 4K version as well, and not just a steelbook.

[aladdin123]

Originally Posted by Hedrox

It's weird how the MoviesAnywhere stream got a free pass on the grain, while every other version was nerfed.

Should be noted that while MA streams do retain more grain than most digital platforms, they also exhibit a lot of encoding artifacts, as RESET_9999 / TbeRw01 himself pointed out.

The 4K SDR Kaleidescape version was not nerfed in grain and detail, and it doesn't have the encoding artifacts of MA's 4K HDR version. The UHD loses to both versions in grain and detail.

[trespoochies]

Originally Posted by Daytrader

Wish they would release a normal 4K version as well, and not just a steelbook.

They did! 5 years ago, part of the first Columbia Classics 4k Vol. 1 set. But yeah, I know what you mean. Weird how they pick and choose what to release separately and whether or not it be a steelbook or regular release, etc. I got lucky since I've had the set, but I have some friends who would like the movie without paying those crazy prices for the steelbook.

[Robert George]

Originally Posted by emgesp

What filtering? Any DNR applied is pretty light and nothing on the level of T2.

High frequency filtering, likely for grain reduction, just not as heavy-handed at T2.

[Hedrox]

Originally Posted by aladdin123

The 4K SDR Kaleidescape version was not nerfed in grain and detail, and it doesn't have the encoding artifacts of MA's 4K HDR version. The UHD loses to both versions in grain and detail.

Umm... yeah it was, did you not look at the screencaps? The Kaleidescape one is definitely filtered in comparison to the MA stream, which is not HDR btw, it's SDR as well.

[aladdin123]

Originally Posted by Hedrox

Umm... yeah it was, did you not look at the screencaps? The Kaleidescape one is definitely filtered in comparison to the MA stream, which is not HDR btw, it's SDR as well.

I'm saying what I'm saying because I looked at the screencaps. The Kaleidescape 4K SDR version has finer grain and detail than the UHD.

[TbeRw01]

Originally Posted by Hedrox

Umm... yeah it was, did you not look at the screencaps? The Kaleidescape one is definitely filtered in comparison to the MA stream, which is not HDR btw, it's SDR as well.

MA is misleading with the extra messy encoding noise. It almost always has more grain than any source. The grain looks better on KS, especially in motion.

Some comparisons with UHD-BD:


Deadpool vs Wolverine:
https://slow.pics/c/IgIM3659

Minecrasft movie
https://slow.pics/c/FQMOjbG3

Brave new world:
https://slow.pics/c/wtbhScRi

Companion:
https://slow.pics/c/i9WmCGRq

Avatar:
https://slow.pics/c/bUesVLVC

Black Addam
https://slow.pics/c/KwqRfWsp