Coronavirus (NO POLITICAL OR SOCIAL COMMENTARY PLEASE)

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

This was the very nice young fellow mentioning about "the cure" (vaccines) very early this morning ...
• https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...ostcount=11135

the dry hands guy
perfect , while rubbing in the ointment

he can listen to all the videos without needing to scroll down thru written articles

[Batman1980]

It will be up to the New Mexico Supreme Court to decide what authority the state has to enforce certain provisions of the public health orders that have stemmed from the coronavirus pandemic. Arguments will be presented during an Aug. 4 remote hearing.

About a dozen business owners and companies sued the state in May, challenging Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham’s authority to levy $5,000 fines for violating the public health orders. The plaintiffs argue that state law authorizes fines of $100 or less in such cases, not the $5,000-per-day penalty cited by state officials.

The lawsuit, initially filed in the state’s 9th Judicial District, seeks a permanent injunction barring the state from threatening to impose the larger fines.

The Democratic governor has declined in recent weeks to ease any more restrictions on businesses because of an uptick in COVID-19 cases. New Mexico on Tuesday reported an additional 221 cases, bringing the total to more than 13,700. Nearly 520 deaths in the state have been attributed to the virus.

Worldwide, the number of infections is thought to be far higher than reported numbers because many people haven’t been tested and studies suggest people can be infected without feeling sick. The coronavirus causes mild or moderate symptoms such as fever and cough for most people. But for some – especially older adults and people with existing health problems – it can cause more severe illness, including pneumonia, and death.

The shutdown in New Mexico began in March with the governor’s stay-at-home order, which forced many businesses to close as health officials looked to stunt the spread of the coronavirus. While restaurants, breweries, salons, gyms and other establishments have since been allowed to reopen at reduced capacities, some small businesses had to close for good after not being able to weather the storm.

Federal data released this week named a fraction of the businesses that received loans through the U.S. government’s $659 billion Paycheck Protection Program. The program was launched in April to help smaller businesses keep Americans employed during the pandemic.

In New Mexico, tens of thousands of businesses received loans totaling more than $2.2 billion with nearly a quarter of a million workers affected. Most of the loans went to full-service restaurants followed by law offices, dentists, real estate agents and brokers, oilfield service companies, hotels and doctors’ offices.

Many business groups have been pushing the governor to reconsider her restrictions, pointing to the economic fallout and damage to the state’s coffers due to lost tax revenues.

“During this pandemic, New Mexico suffers from two threats: the coronavirus, which all are affected by in one way or another, and a lack of leadership from a governor who is quick to threaten another total lockdown while not considering the people her decisions would negatively impact,” said Steve Pearce, chair of the Republican Party of New Mexico.

The party helped organize the litigation.

The lawsuit names Lujan Grisham, Public Safety Secretary Mark Shea and Health Secretary Kathy Kunkel as defendants.

Source - KRQE.com

Come on, recall!

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by MrHT

Why wouldn't we have a vaccine? This is an all hands on deck project and it seems like there have been some vaccines that have entered (or will enter) phase 3 testing. Sounds like a good sign, so there's hope.

Does HIV have one? We've been dealing with that for almost 40 years.

Originally Posted by Pondosinatra

Despite CNN holding up Canada as a shining beacon of how we've handled things...it's not like we're in the clear.

You have to understand: our bar is *very* low right now.

You guys are masters compared to us.

Originally Posted by Cinema84

Instead of getting daily news reports of how many infected people have been undercounted, how about updating us on the progress of the cure? I'm also tired of looking at videos of young idiots packed in like sardines at clubs and beaches. They want to infect each other, fine - I know not to be anywhere near morons without masks.

# of infected is quantifiable on a daily basis and ever changing.

There's no much to update on a daily basis with regards to vaccines other than "we're working on it."

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

b.t.w. after hearing of the latest task force appearance on TV or *get the kids in school or else*, CDC guideline science be damned, with Anthony Fauci, M.D. being notably absent among the spokespersons, I’m wondering if he’s now being purposely isolated given his candid expert comments about the pandemic the last few days

can things get any worse

Was he arrested for trespassing? ...Put on the next plane to Hong Kong?

[Chaotic]

Florida man who refuses to wear a mask, curses out elderly woman

https://kdvr.com/news/florida-man-cu...ask-at-costco/

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

Does HIV have one? We've been dealing with that for almost 40 years.

But where in the news did they say a vaccine was impossible? The news has been pretty positive so far with the progress.

[Chaotic]

Disney World re opening this weekend

https://comicbook.com/irl/news/disne...-this-weekend/

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by Chaotic

Disney World re opening this weekend

https://comicbook.com/irl/news/disne...-this-weekend/

So the spread has slowed down in Florida???

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by MrHT

So the spread has slowed down in Florida???

No. The FL governor is an idiot...as are the people who go.

I wonder what the workers union is going to say about that.

[jayman3]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

No. The FL governor is an idiot...as are the people who go.

I wonder what the workers union is going to say about that.

Just curious, how are the responsible park goers idiots compared to the irresponsible guests?

Because I am safe and responsible in wearing a mask, handwashing/sanitizing, and keeping my distance away from others when out and about.

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by jayman3

Just curious, how are the responsible park goers idiots compared to the irresponsible guests?

Because I am safe and responsible in wearing a mask, handwashing/sanitizing, and keeping my distance away from others when out and about.

This virus is never about "you." It's always about the least-responsible denominator.

Personally, I wouldn't be caught dead in a theme park in the middle of a pandemic. That's just...no.

[jayman3]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

This virus is never about "you." It's always about the least-responsible denominator.

Personally, I wouldn't be caught dead in a theme park in the middle of a pandemic. That's just...no.

Well it's kind of unavoidable if you're like myself who works in one

Can't escape that, my friend.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by MrHT

Why wouldn't we have a vaccine? This is an all hands on deck project and it seems like there have been some vaccines that have entered (or will enter) phase 3 testing. Sounds like a good sign, so there's hope.

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

Does HIV have one? We've been dealing with that for almost 40 years.

They’re different -

AJMC®: In a recent article in the Journal of the International AIDS Society, you and your coauthor wrote, “We emphatically state that finding safe, effective, and durable vaccines for HIV and COVID-19 are NIAID’s top priorities. The world must have both.” What are the current challenges in doing so?

Fauci: Well, I think the challenge for getting a vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 [severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2] is more of a time element. We feel fairly confident, given the fact that the body makes a pretty good immune response against natural infection, that you can get a vaccine to induce a similar response that could protect—you never guarantee that; there’s never a guarantee with vaccinology. But we feel fairly confident that we’ll get a vaccine. We’d like to get one.

And the projections are that it’s at least aspirationally possible by the end of the year and the beginning of 2021. Whereas with HIV, we’ve been working on a vaccine for 30-plus years. It is very difficult to get a vaccine because it’s very difficult to induce the body to do something that even natural infection doesn’t successfully allow it to do, [which] is to develop an adequate immune response to clear the virus. So the challenges are very, very different. I’m more confident that we’ll get a vaccine for SARS-CoV-2 than I am that we’ll get one against HIV, although I have cautious optimism that we’ll get it for both. But I think it’s going to be much easier to get it against the coronavirus.

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by jayman3

Well it's kind of unavoidable if you're like myself who works in one

Can't escape that, my friend.

Not at all. I'll be very, very interested to hear your stories after they open. I thought the union wasn't going to let it happen?

Be safe.

[MrHT]

I think Disney World employees should be getting paid time and half for each day they are out of work...

[MrHT]

Not sure why we have to open schools anyway. It's 2020! We have the technology to provide proper education in the comforts of our own home. But that's just me...

[jayman3]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

Not at all. I'll be very, very interested to hear your stories after they open. I thought the union wasn't going to let it happen?

Be safe.

Thank you.

My dad works with the Walt Disney company, I’m positioned at the other theme park.

We’ve been opened since mid June and it was a rocky start. Things are beginning to become more organized and the limited capacity is helping.

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by jayman3

Thank you.

My dad works with the Walt Disney company, I’m positioned at the other theme park.

We’ve been opened since mid June and it was a rocky start. Things are beginning to become more organized and the limited capacity is helping.

FWIW, I much prefer the *other* park.

I was wondering why we hadn't heard anything much about them.

[Chaotic]

Originally Posted by MrHT

Not sure why we have to open schools anyway. It's 2020! We have the technology to provide proper education in the comforts of our own home. But that's just me...

People are crying their kids aren’t able to socialize. Kids usually social online more than in person these days anyway. Plus with there will be social distancing and other protocols so they won’t be able to social normally anyway.

I haven’t heard any one complain they aren’t getting educated, just they aren’t socializing. Lol

[ctujackbauer]

Originally Posted by Chaotic

I haven’t heard any one complain they aren’t getting educated, just they aren’t socializing. Lol

The American Academy of Pediatrics differs:

https://www.aappublications.org/news...eopening062620

It stunts learning ability, according to the AAP.