Coronavirus (NO POLITICAL OR SOCIAL COMMENTARY PLEASE)

[Moe Szyslak]

Originally Posted by bruceames

I guess the countries that most have the virus under control, like South Korea, Singapore, China, Hong Kong and Taiwan, didn't get that memo. They give credit to universal mask wearing as part of the solution. Maybe they should heed the advice of the WHO so they they can become another Spain or Italy?

In fairness that site doesn't specifically advise against the general public wearing masks. It says they don't need to and emphasizes the importance of good hygiene in conjunction with wearing one.

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by bruceames

Yeah, masks only protect certain groups of people, like those in the healthcare industry, and those serving on the World Health Organization board (who wear them during press briefings).

They don't work for the general public.

Whatever. I, personally, think it looks really stupid. So I refuse to wear one.

[AnamorphicWidescreen]

Originally Posted by Batman1980

This is a pandemic we don't really have any hope of properly treating until they develop a vaccine. It's highly contagious and it kills people quickly. It's a huge deal and I think it's going to fundamentally alter the lives of Generation X, the millenials and Generation Z forever.

Completely agree with all of this. I'll be 50 this year, so I guess I'm in "Generation X". I'm glad that I did some travelling when I was younger, partied & "sowed my wild oats" somewhat, and definitely lived life to some extent, etc. I.e., though I now wish I had done a lot more, at least I did some things that I wanted to do.

However, I really feel bad for the the younger folks/kids out there who haven't fully lived their life yet. Because, due to this pandemic the way people interact with each other (socializing, dating, etc.), travelling/vacations, the way businesses/corporations operate, etc. will be completely changed forever - and not for the better.

Originally Posted by mar3o

If you have it severe enough that you can't breathe, I'm pretty sure you'll want to be taken to the hospital. Remember, this affects breathing. Things can go south quickly for some people who have this. What should they do in that situation - stay home and gasp for their next breath? Of course in a proper situation, they'd go to the hospital and be put on a ventilator, and hopefully pull through. Some city hospitals are overwhelmed right now. In my state there aren't too many reported cases yet. It's certainly nothing like New York. So I think it's at least possible if I can't breath and I went to the hospital they might actually have a ventilator available.

I completely see your point, but I for one refuse to go on a ventilator to help me breathe. If you got on a ventilator you may need to be on this for the rest of your life, and I refuse to live that way. So, If I get this & have these symptoms I guess I'm screwed. And, even if I was OK with going to a hospital because of this there is no guarantee they would have enough ventilators to go around, anyway.

That being said, apparently a lot of folks that are getting this are asymptomatic.

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by MrHT

Whatever. I, personally, think it looks really stupid. So I refuse to wear one.

Doesn't really matter right now anyway. The main reason for not recommending them for the general public is so that people don't go gobbling them up to wear, creating an even bigger shortage for healthcare workers. There is still a big shortage of masks just for them, much less the general public. Those other countries that wear them are fortunate they they already had mask manufacturers, so they have enough supply for the most part.

The shop I have has a lot of sawdust in the air so a mask is necessary. I have a supply for a few months but I donated 60 of the N95 masks to my local hospital a few days ago. I guess I'll just wear mine in the shop for two weeks instead of one before replacing, and hopefully I'll have enough before they become available again (at least, at normal prices).

[chip75]

Originally Posted by MrHT

Whatever. I, personally, think it looks really stupid. So I refuse to wear one.

All protection basically looks "stupid", but it's job is to protect, not amass style points.

[Member-222782]

Originally Posted by chip75

All protection basically looks "stupid", but it's job is to protect, not amass style points.

True, although I've seen some people wearing "designer" masks that look like something Batman would wear. And they don't look cheap but I work in a city where there's no shortage of wealth so if some rich person wants to wear a sleek mask to avoid looking "silly" more power to them. I've also seen people wearing scarves over their mouths. Not sure how much "protection" that offers but, hey, it makes people feel safe.

[MifuneFan]

Any barrier is better than no barrier.

[Himmel]

Warm, humid climate linked to slower COVID-19 transmission
MIT Study

[Lacit170]

Originally Posted by MrHT

The rapid rate of increased cases per day in NY are quite staggering. And no matter what the reason may be, it's still extremely concerning and here's why. We're doing more tests!- Ok, that's great. But the fact that we're discovering this many new cases at this kind of a rate means that either, it's spreading faster and faster by the minute, or there are SOOO many people out there that have had the virus for so long and didn't know until now. Both reasons still sound an alarm because either we're failing miserably to slow the spread or there are TONS of people roaming around NY and don't know they have the virus, thereby infecting many other people. Not good no matter how you look at it!

you could be one of those people spreading it unknowingly. until EVERYONE can get tested, they can be spreading unknowingly.

we're still a few weeks out from seeing if the stay at home is working (it should be) and youll start seeing cases drop from there. this was all projected to happen. STAGGERING numbers of cases start pouring in due to the heavy testing finally being done, then they will level off (hopefully)

Originally Posted by Cinema84

It'll get a little tougher to practice social distancing as more people venture out. My train this morning was noticeably more crowded than it has been this week. A lot of people are wearing masks and/or gloves but not everybody is so I'll be sure to stay away from those brave (or idiotic depending on your point of view) folks who have decided not to wear some protection. BTW, women are protecting themselves more than men are. Men are dying from the disease more than women so go figure.

The government stimulus check will cover my rent for May and then some. But will that money be taxed now or next year when we file again?

people literally cant get masks. what would you like them to do?

i would say 99% of people around where i am do not wear masks when they go out. whether they simply choose not to or cant get their hands on them is unknown but its irrelevant since there are no masks available.

[Member-222782]

Originally Posted by Lacit170

i would say 99% of people around where i am do not wear masks when they go out. whether they simply choose not to or cant get their hands on them is unknown but its irrelevant since there are no masks available.

Hard to believe that in such a capitalist country, there are no "entrepreneurs" out there chomping at the bit to produce and sell masks. There's probably more demand for masks now than there is for petroleum or iPhones.

[Scarface32]

Originally Posted by Himmel

Apparently this was predicted to happen, and it will happen again in 2030, and disappear completely.

Could this be from Nostradamus??

Source

That was in a book written Silvia Brown

2008 BOOK PREDICTED CORONAVIRUS - real or fake? - YouTube

[Head bugs]

Always have good hygiene, maybe miss a shower or two if I haven't done anything strenuous throughout the day. Having said that, I don't remember a time in my life where I have been so conscious of keeping my hands clean. This coronavirus doesn't bother me that much, but man has it made me pay attention to just how many different hands touch everyday things.

[Batman1980]

Well as I've said, I use the toilet 20-30 times a day so one of the upsides to that is I also wash my hands 20-30 times a day. Betting that's more than most people are washing their hands even now.

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by Batman1980

Well as I've said, I use the toilet 20-30 times a day so one of the upsides to that is I also wash my hands 20-30 times a day. Betting that's more than most people are washing their hands even now.

That's a lot ..Are you okay on the TP front?

[Lemmy Lugosi]

Originally Posted by MrHT

Whatever. I, personally, think it looks really stupid. So I refuse to wear one.

Draw some lips on it. Teeth. A team or band logo. It sucks that we have to endure the viral outbreak; taking proper steps to care for your health doesn't suck, and the mask doesn't have to be lame. Rock out with yer PPE out.

[Himmel]

Originally Posted by Scarface32

That was in a book written Silvia Brown

2008 BOOK PREDICTED CORONAVIRUS - real or fake? - YouTube

Wow. I know she is known for being very accurate.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

That's a lot ..Are you okay on the TP front?

It's mostly peeing as I ingest a ridiculous amount of fluids daily due to being a runner. I do the other thing 1-3 times a day. Toilet paper is fine so far but there's a lot of people here so we'll see if that becomes an issue at some point.

[neoz]

Taiwan actually stepped in and took control of their face mask situation. Stopped exporting and buckled down to make sure their populace got them first. Then made them cheap and made them where you could order them online and you would get notifications on where they were ready to pick up.

Also I have a friend that sews and he has been making reusable facemask for people. Using spare cloth he has lying around.

[Pondosinatra]

Originally Posted by Batman1980

Well as I've said, I use the toilet 20-30 times a day so one of the upsides to that is I also wash my hands 20-30 times a day. Betting that's more than most people are washing their hands even now.

I'm lucky I have a urinal in my house...

[Lemmy Lugosi]

Originally Posted by chip75

I'll have hair like Tarzan in a couple of weeks!

Lucky you! In a few more days, my Lex Luthor will turn into Captain Stubing!!