Coronavirus (NO POLITICAL OR SOCIAL COMMENTARY PLEASE)

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by MrHT

That fact that hospitals are maxed at capacity means that the number of people being hospitalized is voluminous!! That's a cause for concern!

We're not maxed out or even close, stop spreading misinformation.

[Pondosinatra]

Originally Posted by intoanewlife

Why?

At the checkouts here they've put lines on the floor indicated where people should stand and they've put up large plexiglass panels between the customer and cashier...

But ultimately it's up to the person next to you to not be an *******.

[DVD Phreak]

Originally Posted by veritas

Your really low balling it for quite a few reasons since corona virus will infect more and overload hospitals. honestly lets lowball it like crazy put its morality rate at just 1% and just 50% catch it with 7.6 billion in the world then 38 million will die. Its honestly likely to be quite a bit worse but they don't want us to panic.

If the goverments actually thought only 500k or 1mil would die they would not be shutting down(the level of shutdown across the world will probably kill like 1 million people by itself by putting the world into a recession). They are shutting down because whenever they try to ignore it the morality rate shoots up because of overwhelmed hospitals.

500k-1m deaths is the estimate if LOCKDOWN IS IN PLACE. If nothing is done, the global deaths will be several millions.

This Mar-16 report is now what politicians around the world rely on to make decisions. It says that if we do nothing, US will have 2.2 million deaths (graph on page 7), but the pandemic will only last 3 months. But if we have a lockdown by closing schools, isolating patients, practicing self-quarantine and social distancing, we will reduce the deaths to "hundreds of thousand" (page 1), but the lockdown will need to be (way) more than 3 months. If a vaccine won't be available in large quantity (which will be many months), expect an even longer period of lockdown (18 months, page 15) because the disease may rebound.

The graph on page 19 shows the LIFELINE of this whole pandemic: the need to reduce peak healthcare capacity at any given time. We want the peak to be always below the red line on the graph.

[intoanewlife]

Originally Posted by Pondosinatra

At the checkouts here they've put lines on the floor indicated where people should stand and they've put up large plexiglass panels between the customer and cashier...

But ultimately it's up to the person next to you to not be an *******.

Yes here too, so it's perfectly simple to stay 6 feet from someone as long as you're vigilant about it.

[ronboster]

Originally Posted by bruceames

Respiratory droplets are also emitted from simple breathing or talking (although they are tiny and can't be felt), thus a big reason why people need to stay 6 feet apart. Something which is impossible to do in grocery stores for example.

Agreed

The best way to handle this is to assume you have the virus and act as if you do not want to spread it to others.

I'll use my own example. Right now there is a need to deliver breakfast and lunches to children while their school is closed.

We go through a questionnaire each day with a school nurse. Our temps are taken. We wash before we put on our gloves, wear a mask and change gloves at each stop. Is this perfect? No, but it's best SOP for a task that's necessary right now.

[Pondosinatra]

Originally Posted by ronboster

Agreed

The best way to handle this is to assume you have the virus and act as if you do not want to spread it to others.

I'll use my own example. Right now there is a need to deliver breakfast and lunches to children while their school is closed.

We go through a questionnaire each day with a school nurse. Our temps are taken. We wash before we put on our gloves, wear a mask and change gloves at each stop. Is this perfect? No, but it's best SOP for a task that's necessary right now.

Awesome that you're doing that.

[BeastCreatureTrapper]

Originally Posted by Himmel

Wow. I know she is known for being very accurate.

The author is actually Sylvia Browne and she was a notorious fraud. This book's claim is nothing special. These hucksters make claims like this all the time, and if they're wrong, nobody cares, but if they hit on just one vague notion then all the sheeple perk up.

[Pondosinatra]

Originally Posted by BeastCreatureTrapper

The author is actually Sylvia Browne and she was a notorious fraud. This book's claim is nothing special. These hucksters make claims like this all the time, and if they're wrong, nobody cares, but if they hit on just one vague notion then all the sheeple perk up.

Yup. Grade A hack.

[AeroK]

I think Coast to Coast AM even banned her if I remember correctly.

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by intoanewlife

Why?

I haven't been in the grocery store for two days, but the six foot rule was violated dozens of times while in the store. Maybe your store has aisles wide enough for two people to pass at that distance, but not mine. And my store was too busy anyway.

[MrHT]

I think it's pretty sad and pathetic that the U.S. could not do as good of a job, if not better, than China in slowing the spread of the virus. China is way more populated than the U.S., yet they somehow managed to slow the spread. In fact, I think China is showing little to no new cases in the past few days. With the U.S., we surpassed China's numbers and we're just getting started with no sign of any slowdown. Unbelievable!

[Pondosinatra]

Originally Posted by MrHT

I think it's pretty sad and pathetic that the U.S. could not do as good of a job, if not better, than China in slowing the spread of the virus. China is way more populated than the U.S., yet they somehow managed to slow the spread. In fact, I think China is showing little to no new cases in the past few days. With the U.S., we surpassed China's numbers and we're just getting started with no sign of any slowdown. Unbelievable!

Authoritarian regimes occasionally have advantages. Freedom sometimes disadvantages.

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by ronboster

Agreed

The best way to handle this is to assume you have the virus and act as if you do not want to spread it to others.

I'll use my own example. Right now there is a need to deliver breakfast and lunches to children while their school is closed.

We go through a questionnaire each day with a school nurse. Our temps are taken. We wash before we put on our gloves, wear a mask and change gloves at each stop. Is this perfect? No, but it's best SOP for a task that's necessary right now.

Yes possibly the majority of cases now are either asymptotic or presymptotic. And they all breath and talk.

[ronboster]

Originally Posted by Pondosinatra

Awesome that you're doing that.

I give props to the owner of the company I work for. I work from the office in the am. Head home change and take long lunch to run my route with a school bus driver. When I'm done, I work the rest of the day from home. School staff, bus drivers, teachers, administration and volunteers all make it work.

Make one route and it's all the motivation one needs to come back the next day.

[ronboster]

Originally Posted by bruceames

Yes possibly the majority of cases now are either asymptotic or presymptotic. And they all breath and talk.

I had to google the two terms you used . I agree. We just don't know and everyone is out there doing their thing without knowing their impact.

[slm]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

We're not maxed out or even close, stop spreading misinformation.

We may not be at max capacity as a nation, but some individual hospitals are, or are very close (see excerpt from 3/24 article below). We don't want to exaggerate/spread misinformation, but let's not underestimate the severity of this either.

[Dr. Steven Kitchen, chief medical officer at Phoebe Putney Memorial Hospital in Albany, said during a televised briefing Tuesday that the hospital’s three ICUs are filled and the hospital improvised a fourth 10-bed unit for non-COVID-19 patients. He said that unit is full too, and that on Monday, doctors had to discharge ICU patients to make room for five patients with worsening conditions.
“We continue to see an increase in the number of COVID-19 patients in our care,” Kitchen said. “We’re quickly approaching the point of maximum capacity. We need a relief valve.”]

[Pondosinatra]

I keep hearing this over and over again as a telltale sign you're infected...loss of smell and taste:

@Tish Lapierre: It was a horrible fever Saturday night that got me. And I haven't been able to smell or taste for a week. I was in isolation about 5 days before noticing. "

[Batman1980]

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[LordoftheRings]

Germany must know something we don't...with very minimal casualties.
The UK ain't doing too bad ... compared to say Italy and Spain and the USA.
France? They're not hiding their dead? That wouldn't be fair game.
China has been told by their second in command to be transparent, not to hide new infested cases.
...Talk about that!

Honk Kong? Not many deaths (very few actually) even after they have been told to stay home, but the next day there were thousands of people in the streets of Hong Kong all gatheting close together like sardines...unbelievable!

North Korea? They have zero cases. They must be doing something we don't know ...

Syria? Do they keep track of anything good or bad?
Iran? That's tricky because they need help but only very specific help, and if they aren't helped it will get worse in & out. ...Meaning adjacent countries too.

198 countries are affected in the world; I thought there were 195 total?
Are they starting to count cruise ships @ sea that cannot dock anywhere?

Easter is April 12, are the US workers going back to work so that the economy can function properly for the boss and his hotels still operate?

Pandemic, Latin origin ...

• https://www.etymonline.com/word/pandemic

[Pondosinatra]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Germany must know something we don't...with very minimal casualties.
The UK ain't doing too bad ... compared to say Italy and Spain and the USA.
France? They're not hiding their dead? That wouldn't be fair game.
China has been told by their second in command to be transparent, not to hide new infested cases.
...Talk about that!

Honk Kong? Not many deaths (very few actually) even after they have been told to stay home, but the next day there were thousands of people in the streets of Hong Kong all gatheting close together like sardines...unbelievable!

North Korea? They have zero cases. They must be doing something we don't know ...

Syria? Do they keep track of anything good or bad?
Iran? That's tricky because they need help but only very specific help, and if they aren't helped it will get worse in & out. ...Meaning adjacent countries too.

198 countries are affected in the world; I thought there were 195 total?
Are they starting to count cruise ships @ sea that cannot dock anywhere?

Easter is April 12, are the US workers going back to work so that the economy can function properly for the boss and his hotels still operate?

Pandemic, Latin origin ...

• https://www.etymonline.com/word/pandemic

Hate Trump all you want. But he's right. At some point you need to get the economy going again. You want to die from the virus or starve to death? The 80% that will survive would rather get the virus - and again, I say this as someone due to my health issues is highly at risk.