Coronavirus (NO POLITICAL OR SOCIAL COMMENTARY PLEASE)

[Pondosinatra]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

100K in Calgary?

No, globally. Good lord, this isn't Ebola.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Pondosinatra

No, globally. Good lord, this isn't Ebola.

100K globally ... April 10, by Easter @ the very latest.
But this, is my own analysis. Best is to put zero value in it, you'd sleep better @ night.

[Pondosinatra]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

100K globally ... April 10, by Easter @ the very latest.
But this, is my own analysis. Best is to put zero value in it, you'd sleep better @ night.

Ok, I'll come back here in a few weeks and bug you mercilessly at how wrong you were...

[rdodolak]

It seems Cuomo had a change in view on what may be the right strategy to combat the virus.

Cuomo provides update on New York's response to COVID-19

38:00 mark

REPORTER: A couple of days ago, you mentioned getting people back to work. Do you have a plan for that now or is that still something you are working on?

GOV. CUOMO: It is something the nation is working out, something we are working through. I think the smartest way forward is a modified public health strategy. That dovetails and compliments a get back to work strategy. What we did was we closed everything down. That was our public health strategy, just close everything, all businesses, all workers, young people, old people, short people, tall people, every school, close everything. If you rethought that or had time to analyze that public health strategy, I don’t know that you would say quarantine everyone. I don’t even know that that was the best public health policy. Young people then quarantined with older people was probably not the best public health strategy because the younger people could have been exposing the older people to an infection. How do you modify the public health strategy to make it smarter from a public health point of view, but also starts to get you back to work? Younger people can go back to work. People who have resolved can go back to work. People who, once we get this antibody test, show that they have the virus and they resolved, can go back to work. That is how I think you do it. It is not, we are either going to do public health or economic development, restarting. We have to do both. You do both.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Pondosinatra

Ok, I'll come back here in a few weeks and bug you mercilessly at how wrong you were...

And please beat me up real good (with scars and bruises) if I was close to be right.

If I was wrong the pain will be less severe...I can take it.

In all seriousness I want to be wrong.

[Scottishguy]

[AnamorphicWidescreen]

Originally Posted by MrHT

I think it's pretty sad and pathetic that the U.S. could not do as good of a job, if not better, than China in slowing the spread of the virus. China is way more populated than the U.S., yet they somehow managed to slow the spread. In fact, I think China is showing little to no new cases in the past few days. With the U.S., we surpassed China's numbers and we're just getting started with no sign of any slowdown. Unbelievable!

Unfortunately, this is completely believable. The Chinese took the threat seriously (but still not as much as they should have).

I'm an American who has lived here my whole life & truly love this country. However, it's 100% obvious that there are a lot of dumb@$$es here who were & still are being willfully ignorant about the virus.

[Scottishguy]

It looks to me as an outsider in New York you have a mayor/governor who's giving his all to fight this virus. But with the FED being completely incompetent, and slow to provide him with national assistance necessary in combating the virus.

[Hitman Horton]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Who here in his/her lifetime thought that we would all be going through a pandemic like this Coronavirus one? ... No matter who's the youngest and who's the oldest.
It don't matter how old we are it is changing all our lives including the departed ones, forever.

I hope it won't be as bad as the Spanish Flu of just over hundred years ago.

Easter, forget Easter I'm not going anywhere out working in an office building full of people, or searching for eggs with a bunch of kids @ the park or in someone's backyard. I'm staying home with the doors locked.

The economy can wait a little till this virus is safe.
It's no ordinary virus, it's a very bad nasty one.

My honest opinion of this is that it's not the virus that's the problem. It's some of the people. You don't have to look too far to see the evidence. There are two things that need to happen to get this virus under control.

1. People need to stay at home.
2. People need to practice social distancing when they do go out.

There is a ton of evidence to prove that some people just don't care and aren't doing these things. It's that behaviour that is causing this to spread as rapidly as it has. Many will likely argue that it's not true but the US now has the most cases and it's things like #CoronaChallange and Corona Parties that are a big part of the reason for it. Stay safe and stay at home everybody. Put those blu-ray collections to good use.

[AnamorphicWidescreen]

Originally Posted by Hitman Horton

My honest opinion of this is that it's not the virus that's the problem. It's some of the people. You don't have to look too far to see the evidence. There are two things that need to happen to get this virus under control.

1. People need to stay at home.
2. People need to practice social distancing when they do go out.

There is a ton of evidence to prove that some people just don't care and aren't doing these things. It's that behaviour that is causing this to spread as rapidly as it has. Many will likely argue that it's not true but the US now has the most cases and it's things like #CoronaChallange and Corona Parties that are a big part of the reason for it. Stay safe and stay at home everybody.

Agree with all of this. I can completely see someone having to go out to shop, to work (if they can't work at home), to the doctor/hospital in an emergency, etc. However, having completely unnecessary parties & potentially spreading the virus as a result is selfish, irresponsible, and just plain $#%#%@# stupid. No wonder the virus numbers are going up in the U.S. Idiots!

[Scottishguy]

At first I thought the US was just getting more testing.

[Batman1980]

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[Falaskan]

Originally Posted by Batman1980

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[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by Falaskan

The code is not valid in my region.

Oh right I think I got the French set, yikes might be awhile before a member can use it.

[Eye Candy]

Epidemiologist Behind Highly-Cited Coronavirus Model Admits He Was Wrong, Drastically Revises Model

Amanda Prestigiacomo

March 26th, 2020

https://www.dailywire.com/news/epide...-revises-model

Epidemiologist Neil Ferguson, who created the highly-cited Imperial College London coronavirus model, which has been cited by organizations like The New York Times and has been instrumental in governmental policy decision-making, offered a massively downgraded projection of the potential death toll on Wednesday.

[LordoftheRings]

One projection for the US alone is between 200,000 and 1.7 million . . . deaths.

In the UK, that article above from that Epidemiologist was 500,000; now he's saying 20,000 ... big difference.
...And 2.2 million in the US (now he doesn't say), perhaps around 100,000?

But all those experts use various systems and assumptions too.
Some expert analysts try to decipher what those numbers mean so far (not very much) and look @ the curves (those have a certain meaning).
I look @ the curves myself, and they go pretty much right straight up since roughly after the first week of March...March 7-8. If those curves don't change their curvatures for the next say 4 weeks and 8 weeks (say a month or two, all April and all May), it won't be a rosy picture in the near future.

[MazeRunner]

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...-a9429021.html

thoughts on this South Korean show on Netflix (which seems to have been removed) predicting coronavirus 2 years ago?

[LordoftheRings]

Also, the US don't use measures similar to China.
And neither Italy and Spain.

Each country has different cultures, methodologies, ways of interacting and protecting.
Some are more efficient, more serious (China is quite serious), others more free style (USA, Italy, Spain, France too). And there is the equipment...quality masks, ventilators, etc. ...Plus the test kits, and transparency in all the numbers.

It's complicated a pandemic, for each country how it is handled, and also when doctors and nurses are facing the unknown when overwhelmed on top of it, and not fully equipped. Our leaders weren't prepared, they are finding out along with the rest of us.

Now New York wants to try a different system.
In Sweden they have their own system; way to operate.
Which system is best for each country is one they discover as they learn and go along, and from looking @ other countries too. ...Not an easy living dealing with the invisible, a deadly invisible. Anyone around us can infect us without us even knowing.

What is to do than social distancing and staying home?
Would getting back to work slowly and carefully in couple weeks help the overall situation? Only one way to find out ... who is ready to test first?

Eventually we'll all be old and die. But why go sooner than later; for the satisfaction of doing our job while living (paying our bills and serving somebody)?

YouTube

[LordoftheRings]

That we knew but it's worth re-mentioning ...
• https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other...ly/ar-BB11IjDt

This is new ...
• https://www.npr.org/2020/03/26/82204...rus-guidelines

[chip75]

People here are washing their cars, mowing their lawns, walking their dogs (in groups). I think someone even had a barbecue last night with kids in tents*.

*That sounds like a variation on Pigs in Blankets!

England has a "Vulnerable List", but other places are told to:

You should first try to get help from:

• family members
• friends or other people in your community
• carers or community organisations

If you do not have anybody who can help then contact your local authority. The letter you receive will explain how.

I don't think anyone has had a letter and the advice seems contradictory to social distancing.