Coronavirus (NO POLITICAL OR SOCIAL COMMENTARY PLEASE)

[Lacit170]

Originally Posted by intoanewlife

You shouldn't be going for a test if you aren't sick in the first place. So if you go for a test because you have symptoms then you're already around 5-10 days in. If you have the test at say 8 days in and have to wait 2 weeks for the results, then you will either already be very sick in hospital, dead or will be over the danger period by the time you get the results.

but youre not understanding one very important piece of the puzzle, at least here in the states, if i call my doctor, explain my symptoms, fever, cough, shortness of breath, i will be instructed to self quarantine at home. a test is irrelevant to my livelihood. instructions will then be to call back if symptoms worsen or if you fear for your life, you will then be told to go to the hospital.

not sure what theyre doing in the UK but even becuase you have a positive test, that doesnt mean youre going to get any different treatment, at first, other than to stay home and self medicate.

[Moe Szyslak]

Originally Posted by Lacit170

i asked this earlier. how is a joyride worse than you going for a jog?

we really going with that "you might get in a car crash" route?

Cuz apocalypse, yo

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[intoanewlife]

Originally Posted by Lacit170

but youre not understanding one very important piece of the puzzle, at least here in the states, if i call my doctor, explain my symptoms, fever, cough, shortness of breath, i will be instructed to self quarantine at home. a test is irrelevant to my livelihood. instructions will then be to call back if symptoms worsen or if you fear for your life, you will then be told to go to the hospital.

not sure what theyre doing in the UK but even becuase you have a positive test, that doesnt mean youre going to get any different treatment, at first, other than to stay home and self medicate.

We are both saying the same thing

My point is is that testing people who aren't very sick is a complete waste of time and test kits. If only 1% of the people who get it are dying, then all these tests on random people who sneeze occasionally just so they can say they are testing this many people a day is pointless. We are never going to know the full extent of the people who have had it until this is all over.

I think I've had it, but there is still no accurate test that'll tell me if I have had it or not so I will probably never know.

[Britbuffguy]

Originally Posted by Batman1980

That is exactly what I've said. So many people going out in their cars every day for non-essential activities out of boredom. Look, I don't like it either but it's shelter-in-place. Not shelter until I get bored and want to go outside and frolic like there's not a pandemic that's killing thousands of people a day.

I deliver car needs as my day job, and people are either bored and they keep hearing everything will be fine and dandy on May 1st, by you know who, so they are coming out in droves to get their cars fixed right now. One customer told me someone said he might not have money for rent, but he just needed to get out of his home and spend some money anyways.


Gulp.

I can say that after a few weeks of lower hours, I was working OT every single day this week again. Lots of people are spending that $1200 on new tires of all things.

And my PT job at FedEx...it's probably gonna get to the point of busy when we might not be able to meet the demand in some areas. It's worse than Christmas time. :/

[Chaotic]

Originally Posted by Britbuffguy

I deliver car needs as my day job, and people are either bored and they keep hearing everything will be fine and dandy on May 1st, by you know who, so they are coming out in droves to get their cars fixed right now. One customer told me someone said he might not have money for rent, but he just needed to get out of his home and spend some money anyways.


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I figure there's a lot of people doing that.

I haven't left my house at all for a week and havent really gotten bored yet.

[intoanewlife]

Originally Posted by Chaotic

I figure there's a lot of people doing that.

I haven't left my house at all for a week and havent really gotten bored yet.

Apart from 2 x 10 minute visits to the local store a week I haven't left the house in 5 weeks and am not bored x

[Pondosinatra]

We'll probably never know the true death count globally...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-52324218

[Gold Ranger]

Of course we won't. CDC, WHO and every country are lying about their counts.

[Lee A Stewart]

California's top cop defends extraordinary virus shutdowns

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — What would normally be broad constitutional protections for freedoms of assembly, religion — even buying guns — have their limits when they endanger others during the coronavirus pandemic, California’s top law enforcement officer said in an interview.

The state has been sued over all three during its shutdown as government officials pick winners and losers in deciding which businesses and activities can operate and which can't.

But in an interview with The Associated Press Thursday, Attorney General Xavier Becerra said officials have broad authority to do what they think is necessary to slow the spread during the virus pandemic, even if that trumps normal fundamental freedoms.

“The Constitution remains in place,” Becerra said. “The Constitution — U.S. and our state constitution — has provisions in it that address emergencies like this. And so I don’t think there’s any doubt that for the protection of people’s not just their health but their lives, our government must take actions which protect our communities and the individuals in those communities.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ca...cid=spartandhp

[chip75]

Originally Posted by Lacit170

i asked this earlier. how is a joyride worse than you going for a jog?

we really going with that "you might get in a car crash" route?

Mainly due to the fact that it's not exercise and should only be used for essential travel, food, essential work and medical supplies.

We have to assume that the infrastructure for urban, suburban and highway travel has decreased as well.

I know you don't want to mention safety concerns, but people really do get "snow blind" when driving alone, it's not uncommon for people to lose concentration because there's so little traffic. There's also the case of people not seeing any traffic deciding that they've got free reign, my friend works auto-parts delivery and he's seen people just running reds and sweeping across oncoming lanes thinking they can do whatever they want.

If you (not you you) get in a crash when you're joyriding, there's a good chance you've risked your life and first responder lives and possibly taken lives of others because emergency services should be with them, not you.

The exercise option is basically there to placate people, if we abuse it, we will eventually lose it.

[Lee A Stewart]

Judge denies Legacy Church's request to throw out governor's order

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M.- A judge rejected Legacy Church's request to throw out the governor's ban on mass gatherings in places of worship.

On the day before Easter, the governor added places of worship to her Emergency Health Order, which bans gatherings of groups of five or more people.

In the federal lawsuit, Legacy argued that it takes more than five people to put on a service.

The state pointed out that other churches were able to abide by the order, and added that Legacy Church does not have the right to expose the community to possible disease.

https://www.kob.com/albuquerque-news...03390/?cat=500

[Batman1980]

[Britbuffguy]

Originally Posted by MrHT

That is pure BS! The news over the past month has been nothing but stories of people either dying or in critical condition in the hospital. MOST people who get it are going to go through hell and that's what is scary!

People already sick. There are plenty of stories on people that get it and don't even feel sick, or feel very little symptoms. Not all is doom and gloom out there.

I have never once seen the media claiming all the over the top things people claiming they are. They're reporting on things happening, good and bad. If you just see the bad, maybe you need to change the channel?

[Britbuffguy]

Originally Posted by Chaotic

I figure there's a lot of people doing that.

I haven't left my house at all for a week and havent really gotten bored yet.

I probably wouldn't either. Heck, I took a 17 day vacation last fall and only went out to get food....just watched a ton of movies and sat inside in the air for the most part.

Sadly, I have two jobs that list me as essential, so my life hasn't changed one bit. Minus the movie aspect....I have no newer titles from the library coming to me, although Wisconsin is now allowing Curbside Pickup...if they choose to reopen, and no movie theater trips, so I've just been watching my some 640 unwatched titles I have built up over the years....probably a good thing to force me to start watching them.

[intoanewlife]

Originally Posted by Britbuffguy

People already sick. There are plenty of stories on people that get it and don't even feel sick, or feel very little symptoms. Not all is doom and gloom out there.

I have never once seen the media claiming all the over the top things people claiming they are. They're reporting on things happening, good and bad. If you just see the bad, maybe you need to change the channel?

Exactly. I only ever see people reporting stuff with receipts...

[Moe Szyslak]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

Judge denies Legacy Church's request to throw out governor's order


https://www.kob.com/albuquerque-news...03390/?cat=500

"Five people??? It takes six, maybe SEVEN to run an effective service!"

[Chaotic]

Originally Posted by Britbuffguy

I probably wouldn't either. Heck, I took a 17 day vacation last fall and only went out to get food....just watched a ton of movies and sat inside in the air for the most part.

That’s what I’ve been doing this month. Took a 30 day medical leave off from Fed Ex since I had asthma and leukemia. Just been watching a lot of movies and relaxing.

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by Pondosinatra

People are rather testy lately...

[Pondosinatra]

Death rate in Canada, is 4%.

Ya, ya, that's a skewed stat as so many are asymptomatic etc.

But still using the same methodology everyone's used from Day 1, number of infections compared to number of deaths.

[Penton-Man]

We talked about Remdesivir way back on March 4 - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...r#post17404003

And last night, Stat News reported on preliminary data about this drug -
https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/16/...-to-treatment/

^ which merits cautious optimism requiring further investigation (since the study lacks a control arm) and is certainly not as rigorous as this adaptive, randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial - https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04280705

Despite the above cautious optimism caveat, that has not stopped people from speculating - https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/16/gile...y-results.html

Full disclosure:
My sister-in-law in Chicago who acquired COVID-19 and was placed on a vent (now extubated and out of ICU but still in hospital on O2 via nasal cannula (5L/min) was administered Remdesivir.