Coronavirus (NO POLITICAL OR SOCIAL COMMENTARY PLEASE)

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

The main reason it's down over that time is because NY is down..

Yes, about 60% due to New York and 40% the rest of the country. Great to see things have much improved there. I believe wearing masks in subways and other crowded places, plus having an estimated 20% of the city developing immunity had a lot to do with case coming down as far and as quickly as they did.

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by BucketheadPikes

And you're the only person that thanked Lacit170's post (#8960).

At least his post made sense. Your reply had nothing to do with what I wrote. Maybe you meant to quote him instead?

[BucketheadPikes]

Originally Posted by bruceames

At least his post made sense. Your reply had nothing to do with what I wrote. Maybe you meant to quote him instead?

Yeah ok, made a lot of sense especially considering the behavior we're seeing. He knows I was addressing him & I was also addressing you as well since you're the only person that thanked his post. There, now I'm telling you straight out so there's no confusion about whom I was addressing. You got a problem with that?

[AFFanAttic]

Originally Posted by bruceames

Yes, about 60% due to New York and 40% the rest of the country.

Can you please share a link?

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by AFFanAttic

Can you please share a link?

I haven't done the exact math and will try to give a more exact figure later. I just estimated using the graphs on the worldmeters site, which have about an estimated 30000 cases per day in April and about 22000 this month. New York was about 7500 in April and around 2500 so far this month. So 5000/8000 = 62.5% New York. But the math could be off several percentage points either way.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by bruceames

This has nothing to do with what I posted (and mar30 "liked" your post, which was rather odd, because I would think he knew what I was talking about, since I replied with my opinion to his link).

But I agree though that everyone should be aware of "common knowledge" (which I assume to be those handy little "facts" you posted earlier?) and adhere it. It is possible to reopen the economy and social distance at the same time. The only question is how much and which areas can reopen to a greater extent.

I liked his post simply because I agreed with what he said in that post. Nothing more to it.

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by mar3o

I liked his post simply because I agreed with what he said in that post. Nothing more to it.

No worries. I was just confused by the reply and instead of raising a fuss I should have just ignored it.

[BucketheadPikes]

Originally Posted by bruceames

No worries. I was just confused by the reply and instead of raising a fuss I should have just ignored it.

The evidence for who posted what & who thanked it is in this thread & it speaks for itself, nuff said.

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by BucketheadPikes

The evidence for who posted what & who thanked it is in this thread & it speaks for itself, nuff said.

What can I say. I'm outnumbered here. Pro lockdown crowd for the win.

[BucketheadPikes]

Originally Posted by bruceames

What can I say. I'm outnumbered here. Pro lockdown crowd for the win.

My recent posts actually support reopening with following physical distancing practices, along with PPE usage. People will do what they're going to do, but this is what I'm in support of. I don't recall taking a hardcore "pro lockdown" stance recently.

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by BucketheadPikes

My recent posts actually support reopening with following physical distancing practices, along with PPE usage. People will do what they're going to do, but this is what I'm in support of. I don't recall taking a hardcore "pro lockdown" stance recently.

I'm for all that too. I think the difference in opinions now is more in the degree and timing of reopenings, rather than the reopenings themselves. But a few weeks ago it was more lockdowns vs. reopen.

[BucketheadPikes]

Originally Posted by bruceames

I'm for all that too. I think the difference in opinions now is more in the degree and timing of reopenings, rather than the reopenings themselves. But a few weeks ago it was more lockdowns vs. reopen.

I do also support locking down places that will not follow the rules or guidelines that have been established in their respective town, city, county, state etc. If no rules or guidelines have been set, then that's a problem imo. Nobody has the right to put others in danger of getting sick &/or dying.

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by bruceames

Great to see things have much improved there. I believe wearing masks in subways and other crowded places, plus having an estimated 20% of the city developing immunity had a lot to do with case coming down as far and as quickly as they did.

Once again, you definitely don't live here.

The city is still shut down and, comparatively, very few people are actually using the subway.

And that estimated 20% is probably bullshit.

[AFFanAttic]

Originally Posted by bruceames

I haven't done the exact math and will try to give a more exact figure later. I just estimated using the graphs on the worldmeters site, which have about an estimated 30000 cases per day in April and about 22000 this month. New York was about 7500 in April and around 2500 so far this month. So 5000/8000 = 62.5% New York. But the math could be off several percentage points either way.

I'm truly not getting this and I'm open to the idea that I'm not noticing something. But the worldmeters site has graphs showing the rate of daily new cases in the US and total/cumulative cases, number of deaths, etc. All of these lines for the US show a pretty steady incline.
None of these are showing anything like a 40% or 30% drop in anything. I'm only looking at US as a whole and compared to other countries.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...ldwide-graphs/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Like I tried with the John Hopkins data (eyeballing in that case), I see maybe 20-25% difference comparing day by day average difference when I compare Daily New Cases in the United States.

please excuse me showing my notes. was writing this here mostly for my own benefit.

April 15 - 30,521 cases (rounding 30)
May 15 - 26,692 (rounding 27)

April 16 - 29980 (rnd 30)
May 16 - 23488 (23)

April 17 - 32368 (rnd 32)
May 17 - 19891 (20)

April 18 - 29079 (rnd 30)
May 18 - 22630 (23)

April 19 - 26113 (rnd 26)
May 19 - 20289 (20)

april avg 148
may avg 113
difference of 34

About 23.65% fall.

Genuinely wondering if I'm just being bad at my math homework or what other thing I'm missing. (I was never great at maths, yet this was kind of fun.) You said it was dropping by about a third. And then you said 40%. I'm not seeing anything like those numbers across any data set or illustrated chart from either source.

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

Once again, you definitely don't live here.

The city is still shut down and, comparatively, very few people are actually using the subway.

And that estimated 20% is probably bullshit.

Well Cuomo thought it was worth mentioning and given your tendency to take a negative slant on just about everything, I'll go ahead and run with Cuomo's numbers. It might be more. I think Dobyblue said that it's more likely to be false negatives on that test. Maybe it was someone else.

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by AFFanAttic

I'm truly not getting this and I'm open to the idea that I'm not noticing something. But the worldmeters site has graphs showing the rate of daily new cases in the US and total/cumulative cases, number of deaths, etc. All of these lines for the US show a pretty steady incline.
None of these are showing anything like a 40% or 30% drop in anything. I'm only looking at US as a whole and compared to other countries.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...ldwide-graphs/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Like I tried with the John Hopkins data (eyeballing in that case), I see maybe 20-25% difference comparing day by day average difference when I compare Daily New Cases in the United States.

please excuse me showing my notes. was writing this here mostly for my own benefit.

April 15 - 30,521 cases (rounding 30)
May 15 - 26,692 (rounding 27)

April 16 - 29980 (rnd 30)
May 16 - 23488 (23)

April 17 - 32368 (rnd 32)
May 17 - 19891 (20)

April 18 - 29079 (rnd 30)
May 18 - 22630 (23)

April 19 - 26113 (rnd 26)
May 19 - 20289 (20)

april avg 148
may avg 113
difference of 34

About 23.65% fall.

Genuinely wondering if I'm just being bad at my math homework or what other thing I'm missing. (I was never great at maths, yet this was kind of fun.) You said it was dropping by about a third. And then you said 40%. I'm not seeing anything like those numbers across any data set or illustrated chart from either source.

I estimated that cases are down 30% this month. It could be closer to 25% or even less. The 40% was the percentage of decline attributed to the rest of the U.S. other than New York. You do have me curious so I'll see if I can get the totals later.

[chip75]

Originally Posted by BucketheadPikes

I do also support locking down places that will not follow the rules or guidelines that have been established in their respective town, city, county, state etc. If no rules or guidelines have been set, then that's a problem imo. Nobody has the right to put others in danger of getting sick &/or dying.

The thing that gets me with social distancing (even though I think the number is almost arbitrary) is that so many people seem to have no idea what 2 metres is!

Hence my idea of a GPS bracelet that flashes when you get too close to people and can teleport you home when you're within 10 metres of a carrier ...

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by bruceames

Well Cuomo thought it was worth mentioning and given your tendency to take a negative slant on just about everything, I'll go ahead and run with Cuomo's numbers. It might be more. I think Dobyblue said that it's more likely to be false negatives on that test. Maybe it was someone else.

No. It's false positives.

And since we're starting with the personal attacks, got any evidence? Or just deciding to take up where your boy Underworld left off...

[Mavsfan41]

Originally Posted by bruceames

I estimated that cases are down 30% this month. It could be closer to 25% or even less. The 40% was the percentage of decline attributed to the rest of the U.S. other than New York. You do have me curious so I'll see if I can get the totals later.

Oh bullshit. You said cases were down by 33% this month not the lower figures you’re floating now. I even quoted that post a page ago. Yet you’re unwilling to reply to a post that’s offering more facts and knowledge than your own.

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

No. It's false positives.

And since we're starting with the personal attacks, got any evidence? Or just deciding to take up where your boy Underworld left off...

Found it.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...postcount=6330