Coronavirus (NO POLITICAL OR SOCIAL COMMENTARY PLEASE)

[Hayabusa85]

Vaccines are never 100% effective and not everybody will get them so it is just common sense that it won't go away but the media need their clicks so they deliver the common sense in a fear mongering way. Even if there is never a vaccine it won't be the end of the world. People still get the old strain of SARS and there has never been a vaccine for it so when you read fear mongering headlines like that just ask yourself how scared you still were of getting SARS before this. Same with MERS and this is just another strain in the same family as SARS and MERS. The long term impact always significantly drops off after the first season.

[AeroK]

We’ve been looking for a good bike the past few weeks but the store shelves have been empty. I guess everybody has the same idea.

[BucketheadPikes]

Brian Sims doesn't seem happy.

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by Hayabusa85

Vaccines are never 100% effective and not everybody will get them so it is just common sense that it won't go away but the media need their clicks so they deliver the common sense in a fear mongering way. Even if there is never a vaccine it won't be the end of the world. People still get the old strain of SARS and there has never been a vaccine for it so when you read fear mongering headlines like that just ask yourself how scared you still were of getting SARS before this. Same with MERS and this is just another strain in the same family as SARS and MERS. The long term impact always significantly drops off after the first season.

What makes Coronavirus really hard to get rid of is it's darn two week incubation period. Whenever we have an outbreak, such as the Swine Flu, we simply quarantined the people whenever they got sick, which usually is not too long after exposure. With the Coronavirus, there are people out there lingering for two weeks without any symptoms (or minor cold symptoms, for that matter) and spreading the disease to people they come into contact with. And that's why we shut down the economy; because we don't know who has it, so we quarantine everyone!

And as far as I know, vaccines are 100% effective, but only against the strains that the vaccine covers. And with the long amount of time we are waiting for a Coronavirus vaccine, a new strain has developed. So it's going to be a never ending story. Think about it; if the strain changed when the virus moved from China to Europe, do you think it will stop changing now? I feel it will keep changing and we have to keep coming up with new vaccines.

[Moviefan1203]

Originally Posted by MEHEARTJC

Piss on the media. Now I'm joking and asking when will we peak with the media fear. It's like they top themselves every day with an even more terrifying headline. Ok, Covid can never be stopped and humankind is forever screwed. How ya gonna top that one tomorrow, Washington Post?

Or they want their readers to be prepared for the best case scenario AND the worst case scenario.

[AFFanAttic]

Originally Posted by MrHT

And as far as I know, vaccines are 100% effective, but only against the strains that the vaccine covers. And with the long amount of time we are waiting for a Coronavirus vaccine, a new strain has developed. So it's going to be a never ending story. Think about it; if the strain changed when the virus moved from China to Europe, do you think it will stop changing now? I feel it will keep changing and we have to keep coming up with new vaccines.

Just like we come up with a new flu vaccine every year. And they're probably not having to start from scratch and in a panic every time the flu strain develops past the current vaccine.

[Batman1980]

New Mexico restaurants back at 50% dine-in with no bar service as of Monday, time to get back to work Wednesday I am guessing.

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by AFFanAttic

Just like we come up with a new flu vaccine every year. And they're probably not having to start from scratch and in a panic every time the flu strain develops past the current vaccine.

And that's exactly what's going to happen. Rather than worrying about flu and cold every year, we now have to add Coronavirus as well to the mix. And hopefully with vaccines continuously coming out and people gaining immunity and such, the virus will evolve to something less panicky as the world gets used to the virus existing.

I just hope we won't have to live the rest of our lives wearing a mask.

[DanTheMan]

Originally Posted by Batman1980

New Mexico restaurants back at 50% dine-in with no bar service as of Monday, time to get back to work Wednesday I am guessing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDP_HuBaQfs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ke5eSys09g

[darkness2918]

Apparently there are some businesses that aren’t letting you in if you are wearing a mask. Why would you not want to keep your employees & customers safe?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...outputType=amp

[Gold Ranger]

Originally Posted by Gold Ranger

For anyone STILL waiting for their Stimulus Check in the USA:

To get through to a live IRS agent after calling the 1-800-919-9835 number.
- Don’t press anything at all just listen..
- It’ll ask for language preference. Don’t press anything) just wait till the message ends.
- They’ll continue to talk. If they start asking you additional questions (that means you messed up or they heard some background noise) hang up try again.
- Repeat step 1 and 2 until you start hearing music playing instead of asking you questions.. ( I think it’s like around the 2:10 time of u waiting) . If you hear music playing you got threw you were one of the chosen ones!
It took me 6 times to get it to go through.
So while not a quick process, it does work.

Apparently mine was released today so I should have it soon.

Bumping this in case it helps anyone:

[Staying Salty]

The Most Important Coronavirus Statistic: 43% Of U.S. Deaths Are From 0.6% Of The Population

https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapot.../#5ab21b1174cd

According to an analysis that Gregg Girvan and I conducted for the Foundation for Research on Equal Opportunity, as of May 22, in the 39 states that currently report such figures, an astounding 43% of all COVID-19 deaths have taken place in nursing homes and assisted living facilities.

Better news below:

Japan Ends Coronavirus Emergency With 850 Deaths and No Lockdown

https://www.newsweek.com/japan-ends-...ckdown-1506336

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by darkness2918

Apparently there are some businesses that aren’t letting you in if you are wearing a mask. Why would you not want to keep your employees & customers safe?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...outputType=amp

Well it is kinda tough to be at a bar with a mask on drinking beer. Are you supposed to keep putting it on and taking it off every time you take a sip?

[Batman1980]

I don't know how people eating in a restaurant are going to handle it. I do know I intend to go get food from a restaurant tomorrow after the meeting and then eat it in said restaurant. Intentionally eat a tiny breakfast and then eat a decent-sized brunch on the way home.

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by Batman1980

I don't know how people eating in a restaurant are going to handle it. I do know I intend to go get food from a restaurant tomorrow after the meeting and then eat it in said restaurant.

You shouldn't have to wear the mask after you're seated, assuming tables spaced 6 feet apart. Otherwise it's going to keep a lot of people away as it's going to destroy the experience. I sure as heck won't go to a restaurant if it means wearing a mask every minute I'm not putting something in my mouth.

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by darkness2918

Apparently there are some businesses that aren’t letting you in if you are wearing a mask. Why would you not want to keep your employees & customers safe?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...outputType=amp

Full article since that one is paywalled

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/so...es/ar-BB14HMaz

[Moviefan1203]

Originally Posted by Batman1980

New Mexico restaurants back at 50% dine-in with no bar service as of Monday, time to get back to work Wednesday I am guessing.

Congrats, man.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by Moviefan1203

Congrats, man.

Thanks those CARES funds helped a lot but are starting to dry up again. Just need this kitchen job to get me through my degree (hopefully) and then run don't walk to a real career with a FCS degree while I try to get into graduate school.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by MEHEARTJC

Piss on the media. Now I'm joking and asking when will we peak with the media fear. It's like they top themselves every day with an even more terrifying headline. Ok, Covid can never be stopped and humankind is forever screwed. How ya gonna top that one tomorrow, Washington Post?

Would you prefer we are kept in the dark?

That article is simply saying what should be obvious already - we may not have a vaccine for some time, and even if we do, we will still need to learn how to live with it for some time because not everyone will get the vaccine, and just like the flu, we may need a new yearly vacine to adjust for mutations. This isn't fear-mongering. It's facts.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by MrHT

What makes Coronavirus really hard to get rid of is it's darn two week incubation period. Whenever we have an outbreak, such as the Swine Flu, we simply quarantined the people whenever they got sick, which usually is not too long after exposure. With the Coronavirus, there are people out there lingering for two weeks without any symptoms (or minor cold symptoms, for that matter) and spreading the disease to people they come into contact with. And that's why we shut down the economy; because we don't know who has it, so we quarantine everyone!

And as far as I know, vaccines are 100% effective, but only against the strains that the vaccine covers. And with the long amount of time we are waiting for a Coronavirus vaccine, a new strain has developed. So it's going to be a never ending story. Think about it; if the strain changed when the virus moved from China to Europe, do you think it will stop changing now? I feel it will keep changing and we have to keep coming up with new vaccines.

Keep in mind the average incubation period is about 5 days. It can take up to 2 weeks, but that's not usually the case. Something like 90+% of people develop it within 9-10 days at most.

I agree that the incubation period, whether 5 days or 10-14, definitely makes things much trickier to track outbreaks. By the time a new outbreak is spotted, it's had plenty of time to spread and get worse. Plus the fact that so many show no signs when they have it. That's good that so many don't fall ill, but bad in that it's harder to track and makes spreading it so much easier without knowing it.

Also, not every mutation is enough to make a previous vaccine ineffective. They have already said there have been many mutations, but there's not enough genetic difference between them to have any effect on a vaccine. Yes, it's slightly different, but a previous vaccine would still be effective against it. That's good news. Whether it will start mutating enough that we will need a new yearly vaccine - only time will tell.