Coronavirus (NO POLITICAL OR SOCIAL COMMENTARY PLEASE)

[LordoftheRings]

3 days ago ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5l5...ature=youtu.be

2 days ago (technical) ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK-D...ature=youtu.be

[Chaotic]

**** deaths, the recoveries seems worse. People are spending months in hospitals and can barely move. People still feel like crap months later.

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by Chaotic

**** deaths, the recoveries seems worse. People are spending months in hospitals and can barely move. People still feel like crap months later.

I think i mentioned this earlier - a good friend of mine had it in March. He still can't smell.

Feel like going through your life without being able to taste/smell? Think it's NBD so long as you're alive? Feel free to go out and get yerself some Rona.

Personally, I'd rather not.

[Chaotic]

This is what the media needs to report. They just keep talking about rise in cases but nothing about complications people have.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Underworld54

I doubt zero will happen until the vaccine is readily available to everyone.

Well, some other countries did it, why not the US also.

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by Chaotic

This is what the media needs to report. They just keep talking about rise in cases but nothing about complications people have.

"The media" does. People tend to use that term when they want someone to blame for a story they haven't seen.

A quick Google search shows there are many, many articles on what "long-term" effects this is having.

A note: The phrase "long-term" isn't very long when you consider we're the only country really struggling right now and it hasn't been a long time, no matter how much our minds want to convince us otherwise.

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Well, some other countries did it, why not the US also.

Because there's no enforcement of protocols. We are told to wear a mask and that it's mandatory in some states, but is it really enforced? No, people still roam around without masks. Even in outdoor dining, I'm seeing so many waiters serve food with either no masks or masks on their chin. These guidelines for businesses are such jokes. No enforcement whatsoever!

If we're just going to continue counting on people choosing to do what's right, we're not going to get anywhere. It's a shame tho because this virus can be beat without a vaccine. But because people are too stubborn to follow simple rules, we have to wait until a vaccine is available. And even a vaccine is not a guaranteed success because like Fauci said, the anti-vaxxers are going to ruin it.

[Chaotic]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

"The media" does. People tend to use that term when they want someone to blame for a story they haven't seen.

A quick Google search shows there are many, many articles on what "long-term" effects this is having.

A note: The phrase "long-term" isn't very long when you consider we're the only country really struggling right now and it hasn't been a long time, no matter how much our minds want to convince us otherwise.

I follow AbC, NBC, CBS news And others on FB and haven’t seen any articles about it.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

do you see this as part of a month-to-month trend now in progress, with no going back?
Meanwhile, some of the effects of the morbidity involving discharged ICU patients….

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Sadly and realistically you are right Penton; it's not the number of deaths, it's the irreparable damage inside many people for a very long journey. She said it; it's like a monster inside your body.

That's a reality check ... no money, no stimulus can repair that. Health is more important than all the gold and diamonds in the world, more important than all the money in all the banks, than all the drops of water in all the oceans, all the particles of sand from all the beaches, than all the stars in the universe.

And it's going nowhere but widespread. It won't disappear like a magic puff of white cloud.

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by Chaotic

I follow AbC, NBC, CBS news And others on FB and haven’t seen any articles about it.

The first page of links is filled with NBC, Forbes, WebMD, Bloomberg, Wall Street Journal, AP, etc...etc...etc...

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by MrHT

Because there's no enforcement of protocols. We are told to wear a mask and that it's mandatory in some states, but is it really enforced? No, people still roam around without masks. Even in outdoor dining, I'm seeing so many waiters serve food with either no masks or masks on their chin. These guidelines for businesses are such jokes. No enforcement whatsoever!

If we're just going to continue counting on people choosing to do what's right, we're not going to get anywhere. It's a shame tho because this virus can be beat without a vaccine. But because people are too stubborn to follow simple rules, we have to wait until a vaccine is available. And even a vaccine is not a guaranteed success because like Fauci said, the anti-vaxxers are going to ruin it.

It takes time for many societies to get a good handle on it...waking up for many will take forever. It's part of the system, we are simply not used to this, unlike some other countries that had experience. It shakes the foundations of our most veneered values. It takes a radical readjustment. Only time ...

And when the first vaccines will come we will encounter a number of other greater issues...I think.

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

It takes time for many societies to get a good handle on it...waking up for many will take forever.

Here's a funny thing. I went to Rite Aid yesterday to pick up a few things. The store has a "No Mask, No Entry" rule. So everyone at the store was wearing a mask, so that's great. But when I went on line to pay, the lady in front of me (who is wearing a mask) went up to the cashier to pay for her merchandise. Then when she spoke to ask the cashier a question, she slid down her mask to talk. And the cashier was like, "Ma'am, can you please keep your mask on?"

I'm like, WTF?? You have a mask, but bring it down off your mouth to talk?? This cannot be real!

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

And when the first vaccines will come we will encounter a number of other greater issues...I think.

[dublinbluray108]

Israel is close to going through a 2nd wave of Covid with a huge increase of cases along the West Bank.

Saudi Arabia is back at 4,000 Covid cases a day after having a slight decrease in cases. Saudi Arabia is now at 200,000 cases and rising.

And Spain is currently having a 2nd local lockdown in Galicia with 70,000 being ringfenced for quarantine. 250 cases were discovered, with roughly half of them in Lugo to enforce the lockdown to be in place until Friday. Police have asked local people living in the area not to either enter or leave the coastal community of A Marina except for work.

[Britbuffguy]

Originally Posted by Chaotic

**** deaths, the recoveries seems worse. People are spending months in hospitals and can barely move. People still feel like crap months later.

But....the deaths dropped for a day. Pandemic over. Open it up!!!!!

[Britbuffguy]

Originally Posted by Chaotic

This is what the media needs to report. They just keep talking about rise in cases but nothing about complications people have.

In all seriousness, unsure people will listen to the media. So many people out there just seem to think if your under 40 you pretty much cannot die, just flat out ignoring the lagging symptoms people are having with it, not to mention the damage some doctors think it will do to people for future issues with breathing.

Part of it is cause we don't know the full effects, and the other part is we just don't have a very united message on the virus either. People are just kind of hearing what they want on it.

[LordoftheRings]

I don't want to stuff Kentucky's Fried Chicken in anyone's throat but the first video interview (half hour) from post #10942 above is in my opinion a must hear.

* The second one you can skip as it's highly technical with medical terms that only doctors understand.
..Or students in medicine and epidemiologists.

[Chaotic]

Nick Cordero dies after being in the hospital since early April

https://comicbook.com/irl/news/nick-...d-41-covid-19/

[dublinbluray108]

I watched a 2 part investigative journalism documentary from one hospital dealing with Covid-19 in Ireland during the week. It's called RTÉ Investigates: Inside Ireland's Covid Battle. It profiles patients & healthcare workers dealing with the virus at St James Hospital in Dublin. It was broadcast on RTÉ One last Monday & Tuesday night. I found it to be quite emotional in watching it even though I didn't know the people involved in the documentary.

You can watch it here via Youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHcsy6oaQYE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whB2CQTo7pw

[Admiral]

Apologies if this has already been posted, but this is an interesting article.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/04/h...eath-rate.html

This extract in particular is sobering.

" In each of the eight influenza pandemics to hit the United States since 1763, a relatively mild first wave — no matter what time of year it arrived — was followed by a larger, much more lethal wave a few months later, noted Michael T. Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota."