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The amount of deaths has been lower compared to the past, and states haven't been wrecked like NY had been, but it's a lagging statistic, and when hospitals in certain states like Arizona, Texas, and Florida become more overwhelmed, increased death tends to follow. I think a lot has been learned since March/April, when NY suffered its worse losses, so I don't see any state having as many deaths as us here, but I do feel deaths may start to trend a little higher than it has been these past few weeks.
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![]() I don't buy the notion that we are close to any herd immunity. People thought the same about Spain, and the latest study from there showed only like 5% of the participants had antibodies. I think NYC needs to do widespread antibody testing, as the data we've done so far is not very representative, and may be outright flawed. I don't think we're protected from a second wave here, and I'd say as we open more up that we might start to see spikes again. I don't imagine it'll ever be as bad as it was since we're more on top of things, and there's a lot more mask usage now compared to the past. |
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Thanks given by: | IndyMLVC (07-08-2020) |
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Countless droves of people who don't take fitness seriously but want to go somewhere they won't have to wear a mask will flock to gyms to sweat and breathe all over random strangers.
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Why wouldn't we have a vaccine? This is an all hands on deck project and it seems like there have been some vaccines that have entered (or will enter) phase 3 testing. Sounds like a good sign, so there's hope.
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We will have at least 3-5 vaccines out there, if not more, by next year. There was just news of Pfizer's vaccine which showed it produced more antibodies than the virus itself does..
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_____ If anyone research the Internet with his favorite browser and read from all the best medical scientific articles on vaccines and COVID-19, he/she will realise that this is a new virus that most scientists don't know much about, plus it takes time to develop a working vaccine(s). You can't simply rush what has to be develop in phases and proven tested on humans, you just can't. First the scientists need more data, they need to know more about COVID-19, then the lab trials, the many testings, the long term effects, the close observations, ...it takes TIME. Historically to develop an effective vaccine against a known virus took time, years. This is not my opinion, it's a science fact. Hope is not based on facts, there is no data on hope. Miracles are not scientific facts, there is no data on miracles. One doesn't base life on hope and miracles, but on science and data, well researched, well experimented, well proven...and it takes TIME. * Here's what I think: All over the world there were never been so many medical scientist experts working so rapidly on a vaccine against Coronavirus, ever. This is unprecedented in human history. It's a biological race of the highest caliber. Researching and developing and testing are done like it has never been done before. And we cannot go faster than the time it takes to be effective-proof. What we can all do we know already; we just have to do it. Not waiting for others to do it, but each person all together. This is the best that we can do now in order to gain TIME for the development of a vaccine(s), and SLOW DOWN the spreading and the intensive care and diminish the number of inflicted, and departed. We know that young people can be badly sick with their internal organs permanently damaged. We have seen it on several occasions, just recently that young 41-year old man. He's not the only one. Tom Hanks is one of the top best actors living today. He's intelligent and very well articulated. When we put him in company of Bill Gates and Anthony Fauci we have a trio of intelligent men that we can rely best on. That's no fake reality, that is true reality as it can be. This is no joke this is serious, very very serious. That's what I think. It's us all together now who are responsible for tomorrow's outcome. It's not the time to live blind, it's the time to gain very precious time for the scientists to develop vaccines and get this thing flat. That's our job. |
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#11152 |
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From CNN...
"The first reported case came on January 21. Within 99 days, 1 million Americans became infected. It took just 43 days after that to reach 2 million cases. And 28 days later, the US reached 3 million cases of the novel coronavirus Wednesday. " So, 4 million in 2 weeks?? |
Thanks given by: | IndyMLVC (07-08-2020) |
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#11153 |
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Portishead ♫
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Oh, I thought you were serious.
![]() * In Ontario masks are mandatory...as you probably know. In Quebec they are seriously considering now. In Alberta and in British Columbia...eventually it's coming (obligatory mask wearing)...in my honest and sincere and calculated predicted opinion. It's not a matter of if but when. Looking back few months ago, say February, we posted several Coronavirus humorous cartoons. It's gone now, the tone has shifted, radically. I changed some of my habits too here, by not including some movie clips to emphasize my words. We all love movies; I'm looking forward to see 'Greyhound' with Tom Hanks. ...And Christopher Nolan's 'Tenet'. ...Also 'Top Gun: Maverick' with Tom Cruise. But first we all need to wear masks if we all want to be alive and well to see those flicks. We need to respect others who also want to see them flicks. Here in this thread we are becoming more aware by the day, we are sharing some good stuff. We'll expand some of it outside this thread's boundaries ... |
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Despite CNN holding up Canada as a shining beacon of how we've handled things...it's not like we're in the clear.
Edmonton hospital turning away patients due to Outbreak there. https://globalnews.ca/news/7152439/e...lity-outbreak/ Also a large outbreak at an apartment complex in Calgary. Once this thing is released in an enclosed area where lots of people live or spend long hours in it just spreads like crazy. Last edited by Pondosinatra; 07-08-2020 at 05:51 PM. |
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#11155 | |
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which still holds and may serve some random reader well. As to your query, yes I would be interested in volunteering for a vaccine trial but I think the question is moot as I would not qualify for them as I am currently on a medication that is being trialed for fighting COVID-19 and that in itself would likely skew the result of any vaccine trial. |
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Thanks given by: | ctujackbauer (07-08-2020) |
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#11156 | |
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Penton posted a short YouTube video yesterday of Tom Hanks interview...excellent.
A short article of Tom on masks ... • https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-53318653 ![]() Another poster mentioned vaccines as a a positive solution for this thread; very good point and I did further researches on this subject. Yes I've read all those articles since yesterday and early this morning; feel free ... ¤ https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...s-for-covid-19 ¤ https://www.cnet.com/how-to/coronavi...ats-happening/ ¤ https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/...052455342.html ¤ https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/21/coro...-go-wrong.html ![]() _____ Next is to go further and read the scientific papers ... Last edited by LordoftheRings; 07-08-2020 at 06:13 PM. |
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#11157 | |
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Apr 2007
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There is much to learn as the current thinking is that, like with antibodies, people with severe symptoms show a stronger and more varied T cell response than people with mild or asymptomatic COVID-19 which questions the later’s degree of protective effect and some of the speculation by the WSJ author. Nevertheless, understanding T cell response is big factor with regards to some vaccine’s development. With regards to herd immunity, I do think people should realize that there is a difference between 'control' and herd immunity – “If we can mitigate or suppress infection, we would be living with some infection and probably some deaths, but it wouldn't be overwhelming. The infection would sort of limp along in the population because we wouldn't necessarily stamp it out, but it wouldn't travel very fast," Halloran said. "That's a different concept than herd immunity." From Betz Halloran - https://www.businessinsider.com/us-c...mmunity-2020-4 |
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Thanks given by: | bruceames (07-08-2020) |
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#11158 | |
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Apr 2007
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extemporaneously, by someone who can do it during live questioning - on NIH Live - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...h#post17829571 vaccine discussion beginning from the get-go on JAMA Live - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...a#post17819350 vaccine discussion beginning around 14:44 on a live podcast - https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p08jn7g4 vaccine discussion begins ~ 5 min. timestamp |
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#11159 |
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In the last couple days France and UK are up...in the number of new cases and departed.
France might be over 30,000 tomorrow (Friday @ the latest)...total. UK might be over 45,000 next week...total. India has many new cases (as many as in the US), and number of departed...500 approx. a day. Mexico is having a hard time...very. Indonesia I'm keeping an open eye ... It's near impossible to predict with COVID-19; it is simply unpredictable to assess population's behavioral attitudes when facing masks and social distancing. It's much easier to predict film's box office revenues. Stay safe, remain calm and be kind with everyone around. We're all working towards a common goal; be healthy. Everything else is just cheap whiskey. Wealth is obsolete without health. |
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