Coronavirus (NO POLITICAL OR SOCIAL COMMENTARY PLEASE)

[Falaskan]

Originally Posted by Captain Flint

Must be even cooler to have the mental age of a boomer who believes every word the mainstream media tells them.

Bwahaha!

Boomers be like: I’m more mature than all millennials everywhere!

Boomers see one headline about one depraved person on the other side of the country somewhere:

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by Lacit170

shes isnt carrying the virus though, so im sure her tune would change if confirmed she has it and has to quarantine. there are also cases of people refusing to quarantine after testing positive and police have intervened to make sure they stay home.

and in terms of the kids going to camp. i mean, who's at fault here? her for going or the camp for being open?

And how does she know she's not carrying it? For the first few days you don't know you have it. At any time she could get it and wouldn't know for days while she continues to go out in public and put others at risk.

As somebody else said in another thread, our parents were asked to go to war. We're being asked to stay home for a couple weeks and people can't handle it.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by Lacit170

obviously....but the narrative is getting confusing. if places are open, dont they expect people to come?

and the article, she didnt say what she is doing, only not self quarantining. so what does that mean exactly?

Places are closing all over the country. I think that's a pretty strong message that they don't want you to come. My girlfriend was sent home from work half-way through today after somebody in her office started showing possible symptoms. She was given a work laptop and now she's working from home.

[hockeyshark91]

Originally Posted by Scottishguy

Europe - Needs grounded (locked down) like a petulant child
America - buying ammo and toilet paper while government denies it's slow response
Britain - Gets given advice like grown up adults. Populace largely follows advice, on top of grass roots community action not initiated by government.

If true, that’s awesome. That’s whats needed in this country. We should never rely on government for everything, no matter who happens to be sitting in the WH at the moment. The government, federal, will always be slow to respond to major crisis/disasters. State governments should also step up and prepare for national and state emergencies.

[Lacit170]

Originally Posted by mar3o

And how does she know she's not carrying it? For the first few days you don't know you have it. At any time she could get it and wouldn't know for days while she continues to go out in public and put others at risk.

As somebody else said in another thread, our parents were asked to go to war. We're being asked to stay home for a couple weeks and people can't handle it.

my point is, people are still going to grocery stores and a few other places, correct? EVERYONE doing that is potentially infecting others. i also mentioned that the article gave no mention of what she is actually doing. she mentioned to wash hands. what else can anyone do? she said she wouldnt QUARANTINE, meaning if she were to get sick, shed go out. obviously that is ridiculous but at this point, its just talk.

Originally Posted by mar3o

Places are closing all over the country. I think that's a pretty strong message that they don't want you to come. My girlfriend was sent home from work half-way through today after somebody in her office started showing possible symptoms. She was given a work laptop and now she's working from home.

lol, some places are closing while some aren't. if theyre open for business, one would assume people are showing up.

i get what youre all saying but the fact that things ARENT shut downs means some people arent going to the measures that certain others are. which also furthers my point that slowing this curve in this country will be EXTREMELY difficult to do. for some, closing their doors means and end to the business

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by mar3o

Sure, here we are, as a species. But how many individuals died from the Spanish Flu in 1918? I'm guessing most of us don't want to be one of the ones that die from this. Of course this won't wipe out humanity. But nobody wants to come down with this, and what it's doing to our economy alone is worth panicking about. This is going to be a bad time for a while.

I'm more worried about the effect on the economy myself. The panic is normal, considering the extreme measures being taken around the world and the effect so far it's had on the economy, and with all kinds of people worrying about their economic future.

My post just refer to the doomsday posts, that the civilized world will end as we know and we should be studying how to clean carcasses, hunt, survive in the wild etc, and the other "we're all screwed" posts.

[VonMagnum]

What looks like a promising cure is becoming available (first test in France showed a 100% success rate when the 50-year old Malaria drug was combined with an antibiotic within 6 days, over half within 3 days). Maybe not 100% in reality, but hell, it's cheap and it appears effective and may lift this damn cloud up before it gets too dark on the ground.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...gs-coronavirus

[MifuneFan]

Man this is eerie to see

https://www.reddit.com/r/nyc/comment...rch_19th_11am/

[mca213]

I'm amazed how something like this could even occur.

This is the 21st century. Something like this should not happen on the size and scale its happening.

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by VonMagnum

What looks like a promising cure is becoming available (first test in France showed a 100% success rate when the 50-year old Malaria drug was combined with an antibiotic within 6 days, over half within 3 days). Maybe not 100% in reality, but hell, it's cheap and it appears effective and may lift this damn cloud up before it gets too dark on the ground.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...gs-coronavirus

China and other Asian countries have been using it with success, but Doctors here didn't seem to be following any of that. I actually wrote about it last week when a 32 year old in NJ (who's still hospitalized) had to bridge the gap between his doctors, and those in China to get them to use chloroquine, and other drugs, which he credits with saving his life. Hopefully it becomes a standard of treatment for everyone.

From March 14

What really angers me about this is it doesn't seem like a lot of US doctors are following treatment protocols that worked in China. Specifically, the combination of Tamiflu, and two anti-HIV medications among others has been shown to reduce the impact of the virus.

The otherwise healthy 32 year old physician's assistant James Cai, who got in in NJ, and sounded like death, thanks his connections to doctors in China with saving his life. His medical team here weren't following the treatment regimen there, so he engaged in a communication between China, and the US, and eventually got the doctors here to treat him with an anti-malarial, and anti-HIV drug, which helped him turn the corner on this thing.

Red his full story here https://nypost.com/2020/03/12/new-je...m-coronavirus/

[BeastCreatureTrapper]

Originally Posted by mca213

I'm amazed how something like this could even occur.

This is the 21st century. Something like this should not happen on the size and scale its happening.

I'm surprised that it doesn't happen more often, especially with advanced travel and increased urbanization/population growth.

Thinking that we're above this is forgetting that we're still just part of the food chain at the end of the day.

[Falaskan]

Originally Posted by mca213

I'm amazed how something like this could even occur.

This is the 21st century. Something like this should not happen on the size and scale its happening.

How naive. No matter how many immunities are developed in the 21st Century, it doesn’t mean immunity to hardship.

[Scottishguy]

Originally Posted by mca213

I'm amazed how something like this could even occur.

This is the 21st century. Something like this should not happen on the size and scale its happening.

It was inevitable.

[Member-222782]

That Malaria drug thing is encouraging. All it takes is a bit of positive news to get the markets back up and people feeling better/panicking less. There's way too much alarmism going on (is that a new word?)

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by Cinema84

That Malaria drug thing is encouraging. All it takes is a bit of positive news to get the markets back up and people feeling better/panicking less. There's way too much alarmism going on (is that a new word?)

What do you think would be an appropriate amount?

[sfmarine]

This is really sad. A relatively healthy 34-year-old man dies from COVID-19; recently visited Disney World.

https://www.tmz.com/2020/03/19/34-ye...world-florida/

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by VonMagnum

....just fluid leaking into my cheek instead of my nose that caused back-pressure and then hyper-sensitive skin by my eye.

you have a fistula from your nasolacrimal duct to your maxillary sinus?

Originally Posted by VonMagnum

It took 13 doctors before I found one that figured out all I needed was a prescription level mucous thinner and decongestant to get rid of the pain (and fluid build up in my cheeks) I had in the corner of my left eye when I blinked.

interesting human interest story, 13 docs, eh?
Next time, just one that could suffice - https://www.ent.uci.edu/faculty/nave...ndarkar-md.asp

[Moe Szyslak]

Dear patients and community members,

We need to take this seriously, NOW.

In just a week, we’ve gone from 7 to over 50 confirmed COVID-19 (coronavirus) cases. The real number of local cases in the Eagle River Valley is more likely hundreds if not thousands of people. It is everywhere here; we just don’t have the test results to prove it, and we won’t anytime soon.

As we’ve seen in other countries, the way this disease spreads exponentially means it starts slow and then explodes and overwhelms hospitals and the healthcare system. This pattern stalls the healthcare system’s ability to adequately care for the surge of the severely sick and dying. This is what we are seeing in Italy and Spain right now.

The most effective way to shorten the cycle of the COVID-19 virus is to be diligent about practicing social distancing - reducing or eliminating gatherings that actually spread the virus in the community. We’ve seen this work in China and South Korea. The United States and Colorado have followed suit as evidenced by public health orders from Governor Polis and our own Eagle County public health department.

The truth is, if we don’t commit to disciplined social distancing now, our 56-bed Vail Health Hospital will be overflowing within 2-4 weeks. We will not have enough respirators to keep people alive, and locals of all ages will be dying. The other hospitals in America will be full too. We’ve already had a handful of COVID-19 patients transported to Denver for more advanced care; however, once the Denver hospitals are full, we will no longer be able to transport these people to a lower elevation.

As prepared as our hospital, County and public health department have tried to be, it won’t matter if we, as community members, relax on the importance of social distancing. We were one of the first communities in the state and nation to start aggressively testing, with Colorado’s first drive-up testing center open on March 6 in Gypsum. We set up a mobile emergency department trailer outside our hospital to protect patients and staff. We’ve done more tests per capita than any community in America. But the results are trickling in, and an inaccurate picture has been painted. Regardless of the number of confirmed cases, we are experiencing significant community spread; when someone is infected, but we aren’t sure where or how.

We have all been told it takes 24-48 hours to get test results, but it’s taking 3-5 days or more, and it’s getting worse. We have 400 local tests awaiting results, and we expect many of them to be positive. In the meantime, we are sending on average 70 samples for testing per day, and we’ve switched from the state testing center to commercial labs to hopefully speed up our results. We are prioritizing the limited medical resources to test the highest risk patients, healthcare providers, and others that are dedicated to this community response and we are using every channel possible to increase the turn-around time for the tests we do run.

Social norms are incredibly hard to adjust, but saving our Valley means starting now. Psychologically, when things feel safe at home, we feel safe in general. Don’t be fooled. Everything non-essential has to stop or close for now. It also means we have to cancel everything, and that goes against who we are as humans. This means no more dinners with friends, casual kid Nerf gun wars in the neighborhood, or basketball at the park. It’s going to be hard and feel wrong on many levels. But, it’s supposed to be hard because we are fighting a war of life and death right now. Not tomorrow, but now. It’s time to wake up. Sacrifices must be made, or we will lose people we know and love. At this moment, the focus must be on keeping lots of people from dying. Every three days, the number of infected individuals will continue to double unless social isolation is adopted by everyone here.

Thank you to Eagle County, our school district, many businesses and Vail Resorts for rolling out restrictions or closing up shop. As one of the most popular international ski communities in the world, people from all over the globe have been traveling to our Valley for the past three months. Many have brought COVID-19 here or taken it back to their homes. Like generations before us who united as a nation during world conflicts, we must now practice that same collective action and selflessness against an invisible enemy. We are all in this together. Please be part of the solution.

Every person and family in this Valley must start social distancing NOW.
#ProtectOurValley, #DoingMyPartCO

Will Cook
Vail Health President & CEO

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[Hayabusa85]

Gamestop claiming they are an essential service like grocery stores and pharmacies.

https://kotaku.com/gamestop-we-can-s...wer-1842415962

[Member-222782]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

What do you think would be an appropriate amount?

Alarmism for sensationalism helps no one. Well, except the entities pushing the fear.