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Old 09-02-2015, 03:40 AM   #5621
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Let's just hope Star Wars VII will be in 4K, but given JJ Abram had never made a 4K movie, and the movies will be released in 2D......just hope

Any news about The Scorch Trials? The first one has a 4K DI and I hope this one finishes in 4K too.

Also hoping Snowden will be in 4K.
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Old 09-02-2015, 06:27 PM   #5622
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Let's just hope Star Wars VII will be in 4K, but given JJ Abram had never made a 4K movie, and the movies will be released in 2D......just hope

Any news about The Scorch Trials? The first one has a 4K DI and I hope this one finishes in 4K too.

Also hoping Snowden will be in 4K.
Star Wars VII was shot on film in 35mm so yes it will be in 4k.
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Old 09-02-2015, 07:21 PM   #5623
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...Also hoping Snowden will be in 4K.
Well, if you’re looking forward to seeing 4K projection of Arri Alexa 65 acquisition, I’m more a Revenant man myself….

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Old 09-02-2015, 08:23 PM   #5624
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Star Wars VII was shot on film in 35mm so yes it will be in 4k.
Uh...you know about all those other films shot on 35mm which were finished in 2K over the last 15-odd years, right? Heck, JJ's last feature was shot on 35mm and 65mm IMAX and still got a 2K finish, it's the addition of 3D which usually puts the kibosh on a 4K finish unless it's a Sony movie. Which this is not.

I ain't saying it won't happen, but nothing is guaranteed. I hope Disney do it though, it's not like this movie is going to tank so they can afford to finish it in 4K. They did it for Tomorrowland, which did tank, but fingers crossed that hasn't put them off.
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Old 09-03-2015, 10:28 AM   #5625
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Old 09-03-2015, 10:34 AM   #5626
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Looks like that's the packaging then black and silver, no Blu-ray mentioned.
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Old 09-03-2015, 01:28 PM   #5627
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So they are going with combo packs right off that bat? That's pretty good.
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Old 09-03-2015, 02:03 PM   #5628
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So they are going with combo packs right off that bat? That's pretty good.
How long until people start moaning about having a "coaster" in the box
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Old 09-03-2015, 02:29 PM   #5629
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Will Ultra HD discs have any compression problems like early Blu-ray discs did? (MPEG-2 and whatnot)
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Old 09-03-2015, 02:58 PM   #5630
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Will Ultra HD discs have any compression problems like early Blu-ray discs did? (MPEG-2 and whatnot)
Anything's possible, but bear in mind that UHD will be using a newer compression codec, not an older, inefficient one left over from the last format. The proof of the pudding is in the eating, as the saying goes.
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Old 09-03-2015, 03:18 PM   #5631
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Looks like that's the packaging then black and silver, no Blu-ray mentioned.
I'm surprised the DVD isn't packed in as well.
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Old 09-03-2015, 04:14 PM   #5632
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Launch a 4K format with only one title that has a 4K master, loving it!
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Old 09-03-2015, 05:46 PM   #5633
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Is it true that MSRP on these discs is going to be $59.99 which will translate into street prices of $35-40? I'm an early adopter on just about everything but if that's the case I can definitively say I'm out.
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Old 09-03-2015, 05:47 PM   #5634
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d from Germany, in examining the posted time of your contribution, I think a thanks is in order for being the first to thoughtfully post that news in our Tech forum…Danke sehr

It reaffirms the notion that Blu-ray.com is a cutting edge newsy place. Just wondering if you beat all other English-speaking forums with your contribution? I wouldn’t be surprised if you did.
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Old 09-03-2015, 05:49 PM   #5635
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Is it true that MSRP on these discs is going to be $59.99 which will translate into street prices of $35-40? I'm an early adopter on just about everything but if that's the case I can definitively say I'm out.
where did you read that? I don't' see any way they get away with that, not when they're pushing that UltraHD won't be as expensive to upgrade to as we feared (Samsung saying their player will definitely retail under $500)
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Old 09-03-2015, 06:16 PM   #5636
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Launch a 4K format with only one title that has a 4K master, loving it!
Well, Sony will just have to remedy that by dipping into its substantial stable of true 4K motion pictures, many of which have been listed here –
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=218262
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=220755

The two above lists ^ being thee most original and comprehensive of any others on the internet that at least I'm aware of.

Regardless, rather than dwelling entirely on spatial resolution from more *resolution-challenged* studios, it may take some time (many months or years), but there will come a day when astute videophiles will become more educated and appreciate the significance of what was the bit depth that the studio employed in the production pipeline resulting in UHD deliverables…..
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significance as to the value of shooting in RAW and from there….

going thru a high quality workflow (i.e. openEXR with 16bit float) and ending in a 16bit master….rather than the imagery being truncated down to a lesser quality file format which is commonly done in many productions, i.e. they don’t harvest all the possible range of the camera recording because it is then squished down by the post house (often to a 10-bit DPX type file) in order to become more bandwidth friendly.
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Old 09-03-2015, 06:21 PM   #5637
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Is it true that MSRP on these discs is going to be $59.99 which will translate into street prices of $35-40? I'm an early adopter on just about everything but if that's the case I can definitively say I'm out.
One of the reports from today says $30
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Old 09-03-2015, 06:28 PM   #5638
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Is it time the mods on this site create an official "4k Ultra HD Blu Ray" section?
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Old 09-03-2015, 06:39 PM   #5639
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Please tell me that packaging ^ is provisional as it looks confusing as hell. Surely, it would make more sense to include the official Ultra HD Blu-ray branding as oppose to the "4K Ultra HD" they have chose to emblaze across the top
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Well, Sony will just have to remedy that by dipping into its substantial stable of true 4K motion pictures, many of which have been listed here –
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=218262
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=220755

The two above lists ^ being thee most original and comprehensive of any others on the internet that at least I'm aware of.

Regardless, rather than dwelling entirely on spatial resolution from more *resolution-challenged* studios, it may take some time (many months or years), but there will come a day when astute videophiles will become more educated and appreciate the significance of what was the bit depth that the studio employed in the production pipeline resulting in UHD deliverables…..
Don't get me wrong Penton, I'm well aware of the other benefits to this format. But that doesn't excuse the obvious. Look at that cover, do you see them selling this format on bit depth or HDR? No, they are selling it on 4K, and these are not true 4K movies. Would anyone here be okay with Fox releasing their Blu-ray movies with simple upscales from their DVD to Blu-ray and calling them 1080p releases?? Should DVD players that upconvert to 1080p call themselves HD players? How much misinformation to consumers is okay??

The other thing that concerns me is the limitations of the current technology. We know that the compression is in its early phases and will only get better. We know that triple layer discs are going to be rare at best for awhile (or longer if the format doesn't gain pretty steady adoption and the investment makes sense). So we're already going to simply upconvert 2K masters so we can put a 4K label on them and have to now compress onto a smaller disc size a filed that could easily be MUCH smaller allowing more breathing room for compression and all the other extras they want to add (HDR, immersive audio). How does this not bother anyone else? I was hopeful when the UHD spec came out because it claimed support for 1080p as well and I hoped that meant we would see more transparency like we do in the theatrical world. Just deliver the movie with all the bells and whistle in the resolution it was mastered in.
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