Coronavirus (NO POLITICAL OR SOCIAL COMMENTARY PLEASE)

[Josep5349]

Originally Posted by MrHT

Come on! China is already slowly going back to normal. Why can't the USA do so? I'm losing faith in our country...

My advice would be for you to face up to the reality of the situation and adjust your expectations accordingly.

[Lacit170]

Originally Posted by MrHT

How did they get food?

And why not compare to China? China was the source of the pandemic and where it was originally severe.

im really not going to bother explaining it to you. do some research and educate yourself.

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by Josep5349

My advice would be for you to face up to the reality of the situation and adjust your expectations accordingly.

My expectations are within reason. This pandemic shouldn't gotten as bad as it has gotten right now, especially here in NY. I don't think this was ever handled correctly and if we ever do have a pandemic like this again (and I hope we don't), then I hope to God that we are better prepared next time...

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by Lacit170

im really not going to bother explaining it to you. do some research and educate yourself.

Ok so you don't know or are lying to me. If China indeed locked everyone in without any ability to get food, then people would've died there at a massive rate from starvation. If you have no source to prove your claim, then please back off.

[Josep5349]

Originally Posted by MrHT

My expectations are within reason. This pandemic shouldn't gotten as bad as it has gotten right now, especially here in NY. I don't think this was ever handled correctly and if we ever do have a pandemic like this again (and I hope we don't), then I hope to God that we are better prepared next time...

And right there you are showing that you are not facing up to the reality of the situation. Basing your expectations on could haves and should haves. Forget that, we are where we are and we have to deal with it.

[GRD43L]

Originally Posted by MrHT

My expectations are within reason. This pandemic shouldn't gotten as bad as it has gotten right now, especially here in NY. I don't think this was ever handled correctly and if we ever do have a pandemic like this again (and I hope we don't), then I hope to God that we are better prepared next time...

Well, your expectations are within YOUR reason. There were videos of apartment doors getting welded shut by the government! You don't want that.

The best we can do TODAY & TOMORROW is stay home and stop the virus from spreading.

We will have a pandemic like this again; it's just a matter of time.

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by GRD43L

Well, your expectations are within YOUR reason.

The best we can do TODAY & TOMORROW is stay home and stop the virus from spreading.

We will have a pandemic like this again; it's just a matter of time.

You cannot possibly believe that we did a good job handing this pandemic and that we were well prepared??

Mind you, I'm not getting political nor blaming any particular political leader. In fact, I blame ALL of them as none of them seem to really know what to do and just keep trying things out as time goes on. But as that time goes on, it becomes too late. For example, closing borders, social distancing, mandating face masks, closing schools, closing business, etc all should have been done IMMEDIATELY when this virus was first discovered in the U.S. Rather, they were implemented one by one starting last month when the virus was already starting to get out of hand.

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by MrHT

Come on! China is already slowly going back to normal. Why can't the USA do so? I'm losing faith in our country...

Why do you say things so often without thinking it through? Even if we were comparable to China, with their draconian lockddown, I want you to tell me how many months its been since they locked things down till they started reopening, and then compare that timeframe with how long NY has been dealing with this.

You're better than this dude, come on.

[Batman1980]

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by Josep5349

And right there you are showing that you are not facing up to the reality of the situation. Basing your expectations on could haves and should haves. Forget that, we are where we are and we have to deal with it.

Well I don't think this will be the last deadly virus to ever exist. So I hope we are better prepared next time. We can't change the past, but we can certainly change the future!

[danman227460]

Food was dropped off.

Source:

https://www.businessinsider.com/phot...ockdown-2020-2

Originally Posted by MrHT

Ok so you don't know or are lying to me. If China indeed locked everyone in without any ability to get food, then people would've died there at a massive rate from starvation. If you have no source to prove your claim, then please back off.

[Josep5349]

Originally Posted by MrHT

Well I don't think this will be the last deadly virus to ever exist. So I hope we are better prepared next time. We can't change the past, but we can certainly change the future!

Agreed . Stay safe.

[AnamorphicWidescreen]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

H1N1 (Swine Flu) is far less contagious, and far less deadly than COVID-19. It also has a much shorter incubation period, and likely didn't have much if any asymptomatic transmission compared to this new virus. That makes a huge difference in the severity, and spread of it. COVID-19 also affects the most vulnerable populations, while H1N1 was much more prevalent in younger people. Many people already had some immunity to it too because of past viruses, unlike this new one. Vaccines were also made and distributed extremely fast (compared to typical vaccine timeable) saving tons of lives.

I remember the media coverage & concern about SARS back in 2003. However, I don't remember much discussion/concern about the Swine Flu in 2009.

[Lacit170]

Originally Posted by MrHT

Ok so you don't know or are lying to me. If China indeed locked everyone in without any ability to get food, then people would've died there at a massive rate from starvation. If you have no source to prove your claim, then please back off.

lol, again, do some research. you clearly dont have the basic understandings of how a communist regime works.

their lockdown started on January 23rd as well. way before any of us here.

[Lacit170]

Originally Posted by danman227460

Food was dropped off.

Source:

https://www.businessinsider.com/phot...ockdown-2020-2

dont bother...

[MifuneFan]

Since I don't expect "MrHT" to actually respond to my post with any real answers to my questions. I'll lay it out for him.

China imposed a full Draconian-esque lock-down of the Hubei province (mainly Wuhan) from January 23rd till April 8th. That's a period of 76 days.

New York imposed a far from Draconian lock-down initiative called "Pause" on March 22nd. That was 25 days ago

Yet somehow after literally 1/3rd of the length, and far less restrictive a lock-down, MrHT and others like him are expecting NY to start to open up now? If we really want to be like China, then we have at least another 50 days to go to match the length of their lock-down.

I honestly don't understand why this has to be explained to anyone, but if he, or others sitll continue to compare what we're doing to China, as if it's anywhere close to the same timeframe, then I have to assume they're either trolling, or something else which I'd rather not say.

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Since I don't expect "MrHT" to actually respond to my post with any real answers to my questions. I'll lay it out for him.

China imposed a full Draconian-esque lock-down of the Hubei province (mainly Wuhan) from January 23rd till April 8th. That's a period of 76 days.

New York imposed a far from Draconian lock-down initiative called "Pause" on March 22nd. That was 25 days ago

Yet somehow after literally 1/3rd of the length, and far less restrictive a lock-down, MrHT and others like him are expecting NY to start to open up now? If we really want to be like China, then we have at least another 50 days to go to match the length of their lock-down.

I honestly don't understand why this has to be explained to anyone, but if he, or others sitll continue to compare what we're doing to China, as if it's anywhere close to the same timeframe, then I have to assume they're either trolling, or something else which I'd rather not say.

Fair enough about the lockdown. But I was talking more about the number of cases. China is now and has been at 80K cases and stopped. With us, we're at a whopping 653K cases!!! That's over 8X the number of cases than China, and in a shorter period of time (which you have just proven). That's not surprising to any of you and you think that's perfectly ok??

[darkness2918]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

NYC is on lockdown for another month. Just extended.

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Till May 15. It'll probably be extended again too.

Seems we are never going to reopen at this rate . I can’t wait until all this lockdown crap is over.

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by darkness2918

Seems we are never going to reopen at this rate . I can’t wait until all this lockdown crap is over.

It's going to be done slowly. Every day more and more of Cuomo's press briefings are dedicated to how best to open things up. The next stage is to come up with the next tier after essential businesses/services that can be safely be re-opened. And then, the next tier, etc..

NY has tested over a half million people now, which is more than most states combined, and most countries too, but it's still just a fraction of our population, so if we got the timing wrong and opened too much too soon we could have a worst 2nd wave than the first, especially with more people out and about for the Summer.

With regards to NYC specifically, I firmly believe the subways are the biggest cause of our issues now, and probably from the start. It's hard to completely reduce the transmission rate when you still have crowded trains every day, even if they're supposedly filled with essential workers. Hopefully Cuomo's mandate to wear a mask is followed by more people that ride it, even if there's no sort of enforcement, or penalties involved with that ruling.

[intoanewlife]

Originally Posted by MrHT

How did they get food?

And why not compare to China? China was the source of the pandemic and where it was originally severe.

You do realise Chine had it for like 4 months before the US, so the US are 4 months behind them right?

Please stop talking...