Coronavirus (NO POLITICAL OR SOCIAL COMMENTARY PLEASE)

[Josep5349]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Well, if I can’t get out with my client, my job will become ten times harder so I’m every bit as anxious as you are that a few People may spoil it for everyone. I don't know if you have any experience of autism but there are all kinds of difficulties in breaking routine.

Nothing wrong with being angry but you can’t just direct it at people as you see fit. Anyway, we can be civil and continue this discussion or we can just call it there.

All I have to say on it has been posted. Like you, happy to carry on discussing the wider topic, in a civil manner of course. So, will you be glued to your TV screen at 8 o’clock tonight?

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[intoanewlife]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

As I mentioned in another post, films give me contentment. They recharge my batteries and always have done going back to childhood.i wonder how many other people feel that way?

Yup, I'm exactly the same.

I work freelance in television which means I usually work in 2 -3 month blocks trapped in a tiny room with some of the most horrible people on earth and I NEED to have a break before I have to get back to it again. That down time is always spent with the curtains drawn for weeks and the projector fired up non stop.

I've just had 2 years of non stop work with very few breaks and after the last job I had with probably the most despicable bunch I've ever had the misfortune of working with, I decided to take a few months off and recover...then all this shite happened!

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by MrHT

I know, you weren't one of those people.

However, there were many other people here telling me that the spike in numbers a couple of weeks ago were due to increased testing and that things will go down in the weeks to come. We are now at April 5th and we haven't hit the apex yet. And that's the point why I was initially freaking out before. I KNEW this was coming, but everyone else was stubborn and didn't think it was going to happen. This is why people take it as a joke, don't stay at home and go out. Now we're lucky if this crisis completely ends by the end of the year.

It's amazing how I look outside my window and still see numerous people strolling outside. Oy vey!

You seem to have a misunderstanding as this wasn't going to peak in just one week... it will takes weeks.

[Lee A Stewart]

We are ALL going to be asked to make sacrifices in the coming weeks. What was normal is no longer. The faster you realize this, the better equipped you will be to make those sacrifices.

We haven't seen anything like the COVID-19 pandemic since the 1918 Spanish Flu and no one is alive today who went through that. Our population at the time was just over 100M and 675,000 Americans died. We are now a country of 327M. We do not want a repeat of those statistics. There is only one way to beat a pandemic without a vaccine: Shelter-In-Place. You have to stop human contact. Right now it's voluntary. Don't be surprised if after the death toll goes past 50,000 that S-I-P becomes a mandatory quarantine. That means NO ONE other than first responders can leave their home for ANY reason unless it's a medical emergency.

Pandemics don't last for a few months. They go for a year or more especially those with no anti-viralants or vaccine. Every country (S. Korea & China) that first closed, flattened their curve then reopened has seen a 2nd wave of infections.

I'm not trying to scare anyone nor am I the prophet of Doom. I am just trying to get you to understand the severity of the situation and what it takes to beat this.

Every time you step out of your home you run the risk of becoming infected. Droplets of CV-19 can be carried by the wind for miles. Someone who is already infected and hasn't shown any symptoms is walking 2 miles away, they sneeze and don't cover their face, the droplets are now in the wind. And the wind is headed right for you on your lonely walk at night! And unless you are wearing a fitted N95 mask, you are in danger of becoming infected.

It's going to be in the mid 70s all week here in ABQ, NM. I have a small covered porch right off my bedroom. I would love to go out on it and get some fresh air. But I won't because I value my life more than my desire for such. I hope you do the same.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by bruceames

From Penton-Man's link above.

Originally Posted by Beefbowl

I think it has more to do than just mask/no mask.

Originally Posted by bruceames

Of course. But it just shows what a huge difference masks can make. If it were a requirement that masks/face covering be worn inside stores and on public transportation, than we we will see a flattening of the curve much sooner than if we don't. Enclosed areas (outside the home) is where the real danger lies.

no it does not.

1) Chinese and Malaysians tend to wear masks and they both show up in the red

2) SK wear masks and it is lof but if you look at their curve it has flattened down because of all the measures taken there if you look early on (before it flattened ) it was high and they would have been wearing masks.

3) you could find any number of stereotypes and apply them the same way red tend to be bread and meat eaters while blue tends to be more rice and seafood....

4) honestly the biggest difference IMHO is one of (forced or not) social duty and gouvernment acceptance that does not exist in most of the people in most of the countries looped in red.

When Quebec decided close senior residences from visits the news were full of well intentioned idiots that just wanted to visit their family members in them, last time there was an update it was in over 400 residences. We all saw those stupid spring breakers, I am sure the news here is not the only one that shows people hanging around in parks or people complaining when they get fined for congregating...

[MifuneFan]

Wearing masks actually wasn't as prevalent in Malaysia before all of this.

[Unknown450]

Not sure if it has been mentioned here yet but I barely found out about this.

"RESIDENTS IN LAREDO, Texas, who do not cover their mouth and nose with a mask or other make-shift device could face a $1,000 fine"
https://www.usnews.com/news/national...virus-outbreak

Think it's the only place doing this atm.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Moe Szyslak

A kind woman just sent a message to the neighborhood that she's making masks for anyone who wants one.

I notice all sorts of examples of kindness reported and posted by people thru my local Nextdoor app, from the making/distributing of masks, e.g.



to purchasing groceries for thee elderly. Society needs all the ^ proactive help it can get and sustainable social responsibility in terms of social distancing, conscientious hand washing etc. because even though we will eventually reach the down slope of ‘the apex’ in this or that city or state - until a freely available, definitive medical therapy or vaccine is developed (as herd immunity will likely take even longer) a significant number of people will continue to die from this illness even as it peters out on this and possibly the next go around .

[Lee A Stewart]

South Korea's return to normal interrupted by uptick in coronavirus cases

South Korea has been held up as a paragon for containing the coronavirus, lauded by the world for successfully flattening its curve, it is now bracing for a possible second wave.

But two worlds have emerged in South Korea. In one, everyday life resembles something closer to normal: There are lines outside restaurants during lunchtime; streets are busier; some wear masks and some do not.

The other world, however, keeps its eye firmly on the slight daily uptick in the country's number of cases.

Despite methods like early testing and digital tracing, South Korea is bracing itself for a second wave of infection. The government recently pushed back the new school year, opting for April 6 as the start date. Despite efforts to protect children from being infected with the coronavirus, over 83 percent of South Korea's hagwons — cutthroat test prep centers for students — remain open.

With many parts of the world wondering what a slow return to normal life will look like, South Korea's situation offers a warning: The curve doesn't necessarily stay flat.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...cid=spartanntp

[MifuneFan]

ANTI-PARASITE DRUG USED SINCE 1980S MAY HELP STOP CORONAVIRUS, NEW STUDY SAYS

Australian researchers have published a study showing a drug commonly used to treat parasite infections can also kill coronavirus in a laboratory setting in under 48 hours.

Researchers at Monash University in Melbourne, Australia have discovered that the antiparasitic drug Ivermectin can inhibit replication of SARS-CoV-2, the virus the causes COVID-19, according to a study published Friday in the journal Antiviral Research.

"Ivermectin is very widely used and seen as a safe drug. We need to figure out now whether the dosage you can use it at in humans will be effective—that's the next step," said the study's leader Dr. Kylie Wagstaff in a statement.

"We found that even a single dose could essentially remove all viral RNA by 48 hours and that even at 24 hours there was a really significant reduction in it," she added.

The exact manner in which the drug is able to kill the virus is not yet known, although Wagstaff said it was likely done by "dampening down" the ability of host cells to clear the drug.

Ivermectin has been widely used since the 1980s to treat head lice, scabies and several other infections caused by parasites. The drug is also used to treat the skin condition rosacea.

Research was carried out on cell cultures in the lab, which does not always translate to effectiveness in people who have contracted an infection. Ivermectin has been effective against a wide range of viruses when studied in vitro. Further research will be needed to determine whether the drug could be used to treat COVID-19.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by intoanewlife

Yup, I'm exactly the same.

I work freelance in television which means I usually work in 2 -3 month blocks trapped in a tiny room with some of the most horrible people on earth and I NEED to have a break before I have to get back to it again. That down time is always spent with the curtains drawn for weeks and the projector fired up non stop.

I've just had 2 years of non stop work with very few breaks and after the last job I had with probably the most despicable bunch I've ever had the misfortune of working with, I decided to take a few months off and recover...then all this shite happened!

I completely get it. I did the whole ‘going clubbing’ thing when I was younger because I thought people would think I was odd if I didn’t. Then I hit 27-28 and stopped caring about what people think. The problem was, going against my grain in such a big way took it out of me so much mentally. If only I was stronger when I was younger and accepted who I was.

Two years work non stop must have been draining for you, take care of yourself.

[Batman1980]

Anyone who thought Asia already had a lid on this was kidding themselves.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Josep5349

All I have to say on it has been posted. Like you, happy to carry on discussing the wider topic, in a civil manner of course. So, will you be glued to your TV screen at 8 o’clock tonight?

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I’m not a royalist but I will give it a watch.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I notice all sorts of examples of kindness reported and posted by people thru my local Nextdoor app, from the making/distributing of masks, e.g.



to purchasing groceries for thee elderly. Society needs all the ^ proactive help it can get and sustainable social responsibility in terms of social distancing, conscientious hand washing etc. because even though we will eventually reach the down slope of ‘the apex’ in this or that city or state - until a freely available, definitive medical therapy or vaccine is developed (as herd immunity will likely take even longer) a significant number of people will continue to die from this illness even as it peters out on this and possibly the next go around .

"3D Agents of Shield" a group of Cinematographers, Camera Ops and Camera Assistants who banded together to create Face Shields and other PPE for Doctors, Nurses and First Responders here in LA and around the US from their home garages:

https://live.icg600.com/3d-agents-of-shield/

[Himmel]

14 states are exempting religious gatherings from stay at home order. Source

Listen to the woman say she doesn't have to worry about Corona cause she is covered in Jesus's blood.

[intoanewlife]

Originally Posted by Himmel

14 states are exempting religious gatherings from stay at home order. Source

Listen to the woman say she doesn't have to worry about Corona cause she is covered in Jesus's blood.

It's called natural selection...

[Gold Ranger]

Hopefully the people making the masks aren't sick and that the supplies are older than the recent outbreak.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by Himmel

14 states are exempting religious gatherings from stay at home order. Source

Listen to the woman say she doesn't have to worry about Corona cause she is covered in Jesus's blood.

My mother is the most religious person I know and she thinks all churches should go digital until the apex passes.

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

Don't be surprised if after the death toll goes past 50,000 that S-I-P becomes a mandatory quarantine. That means NO ONE other than first responders can leave their home for ANY reason unless it's a medical emergency.

If that were to happen, expect the death toll to sky rocket and/or mass riots as people would starve to death.

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

If that were to happen, expect the death toll to sky rocket and/or mass riots as people would starve to death.

Actually no - the death rate would go down. less people getting infected. And prior to a mandatory quarantine you will be given a chance to stock up on groceries, like you were supposed to have already done.